Centre forwards outwith the big four in England that are better than our Alfie?

WinkieWATP

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Point me in the direction of them?

There was plenty fans who would have bit your hand off for £10m in the summer. Watch the supposed best league in the world with the supposed best players as a consequence and show me anyone that does all the things the wee fella does.

He really is one of the most exciting young prospects in European football and when the time comes for him to leave we really need to make sure we get the absolute maximum for him.
 

Rangers500

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Some of the garbage in the epl couldn’t lace Alfie’s boots. I watched a bit of the game tonight, he’s better than Adams, ings and solanke and all of them have moved for silly money. Wilson is a good forward but our man isn’t a million miles behind him either. If he keeps his discipline this year and scores the amount of goals he should in the league and Europe whilst ragdolling defenders I think we could be looking at a Scottish record transfer fee. Some teams could have missed a bargain for what they could have picked him up for this summer if they had taken a punt. I hope he stays forever but a massive bag of cash will need to suffice.
 

ClubDeckBear

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Buff is destined to be a world beater. In terms of better forwards outside top four in England then maybe Aubameyang, Lacazette, Jiminez, Callum Wilson? Not many and out of those four I'd say only Aubameyang is noticeably better. You always wonder if you're looking at it with the old blue tinted specs on though.
 

sifter

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Assuming your big 4 was last seasons top 4 then, Arsenal have Aubamayang and Lacazette, Man U have Rashford and Martial, West Ham's new signing Haller looks a good player, Pukki's on some run just now.

There's plenty of good strikers in the EPL but Alfie wouldn't look out of place in a good number of the squads.
 

nithbear

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Seen all of Wolves qualifiers at Molineux;and they love Raul Jimenez down there.
We could argue all night that Alfie/Jimenez would do better in Scotland/England;and that either player would flourish or flounder according to opinion.
The bottom line is that would Alfie go to Wolverhampton;their fans would be doing cartwheels.
 

LiviLoyal

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I follow Spurs as well as being a Rangers supporter first and foremost and I’d be fucking delighted if Spurs spent 25/30m on him as a back up/support striker to Kane. I say this as someone who wonders how to buy someone to support Kane as he’s that good he’ll almost always play when fit. It speaks volumes for how much I rate Alfredo that I’d be happy if he was said support.
 

True Blue Avenger

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There are very few imo.

It still surprises me greatly that not one EPL club attempted to get him in the summer. 10 - 15 mil would likely have seen us do business.and not one of their vast legion of scouts and analysts etc thought fit to recommend him? As op pointed out, both Ings and Solanke went for more than that and the phrase "bang average" springs to mind for those pair. I just dont get it but it's to our gain that they continue to overlook him.
 

WinkieWATP

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I have a mate who supports St Mirren saying he is championship level (England
There are very few imo.

It still surprises me greatly that not one EPL club attempted to get him in the summer. 10 - 15 mil would likely have seen us do business.and not one of their vast legion of scouts and analysts etc thought fit to recommend him? As op pointed out, both Ings and Solanke went for more than that and the phrase "bang average" springs to mind for those pair. I just dont get it but it's to our gain that they continue to overlook him.
For the £40m shelled out on Ings and Solanke how many goals will Bouremouth and Southampton get in return? 10 between the two?
 

Steviegee55

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Said in the summer that the likes of Everton and West Ham should have been going for him.west ham got Haller who looks really good. But Everton paid quite big money on Moise Kean but he cant get in the team. Think Morelos would've been perfect for them. But glad hes still here, once he scores the goals to get us to the knockout stages of the Europa he'll be worth £25-30mill
 

WinkieWATP

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Said in the summer that the likes of Everton and West Ham should have been going for him.west ham got Haller who looks really good. But Everton paid quite big money on Moise Kean but he cant get in the team. Think Morelos would've been perfect for them. But glad hes still here, once he scores the goals to get us to the knockout stages of the Europa he'll be worth £25-30mill
If Everton were to sell Calvet Lewin I think they'd want far in excess of £30m.

Personaly don't think he is even half the player Morelos is.
 

tambourineman

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There are very few imo.

It still surprises me greatly that not one EPL club attempted to get him in the summer. 10 - 15 mil would likely have seen us do business.and not one of their vast legion of scouts and analysts etc thought fit to recommend him? As op pointed out, both Ings and Solanke went for more than that and the phrase "bang average" springs to mind for those pair. I just dont get it but it's to our gain that they continue to overlook him.
Much as I love wee Alfie I think it is hard to believe that every team/scout/manager in Europe gets it wrong, under rates Alfie and wee unbiased Bears call it correctly.

His decision making is still poor and his finishing erratic, in fact at times wild. He terrorised, absolutely terrorised, their defence last night but there were some poor moments and wild shots.

BUT I love him.
 

Steviegee55

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If Everton were to sell Calvet Lewin I think they'd want far in excess of £30m.

Personaly don't think he is even half the player Morelos is.
Exactly. Calvert Lewin scores about 5 a season. And doesnt offer anywhere near as much as Morelos is his general play
 

Steviegee55

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Much as I love wee Alfie I think it is hard to believe that every team/scout/manager in Europe gets it wrong, under rates Alfie and wee unbiased Bears call it correctly.

His decision making is still poor and his finishing erratic, in fact at times wild. He terrorised, absolutely terrorised, their defence last night but there were some poor moments and wild shots.

BUT I love him.
As much as money gets flung about, down in England especially. They wont spend 20mill plus unless they are sure about a player. So a player from the spl would have to be special for them to pay that. So maybe his discipline or not playing in really big european or international games goes against him.and the scouts wont have seen as much of him as we have,so dont appreciate him as much as we do
 

True Blue Avenger

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Much as I love wee Alfie I think it is hard to believe that every team/scout/manager in Europe gets it wrong, under rates Alfie and wee unbiased Bears call it correctly.

His decision making is still poor and his finishing erratic, in fact at times wild. He terrorised, absolutely terrorised, their defence last night but there were some poor moments and wild shots.

BUT I love him.
I do get that mate and of course he's not without his flaws. In particular, he is prone to the odd wild swipe at the ball that can look pretty bad when they fly into row z.

But theres so much more to his game than just the finishing and I love that he's always involved in the game from first minute to last. The 4 or 5 times he turned his man last night using his body or the delightful ball he rolled across goal that unfortunately had no takers - things like that are why his overall game is so crucial to us.

I suppose from a scouting perspective, it might come down to what you're looking for in your striker. There are undoubtedly better and more polished finishers for that kind of money but if you're looking for a dynamic, tireless pest of a player who has potential to really kick on to an elite level, then he's your man.
 

Family bam

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He's a tremendous all round striker, with pace and power who quite simply bullies defenders and so happens to score regularly.

The world's his oyster in footballing terms and he can only get better and better.
A truly tremendous young player who in any other country would be praised to the heavens, unlike this wee Rangers hating shitehole.
 

RainMan1972

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Morelos would do a very good job for every club outside the top 6 in England (right now) This is how id compare him to non top 6 EPL strikers;

Sheffield Utd - McBurnie = Morelos is better

Norwich - Pukki = Pukki better atm I guess in terms of finishing

Aston Villa - Wesley = Morelos is better

Burnley - Barnes = Morelos in my opinion

Brighton - Maupay = Morelos in my opinion

Watford - Gray = Hmm maybe Gray at the moment

C Palace - Benteke = Morelos in my opinion

Southampton - Ings/Adams = Morelos in my opinion

Newcastle - Joelinton = Joelinton maybe

Wolves - Jimenez = Jimenez

Bournemouth - Wilson = Probably Wilson just now

West Ham - Haller = Probably Haller at the moment

Leicester - Vardy = Vardy maybe at the moment but Morelos will be better in a couple years

Everton - Kean/Calvert Lewin = Id honestly have Morelos
 

rossgers

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Morelos is better than Wilson at Bournemouth. They value him at £50m and pay him £100k a week.
 

Danger Zone

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Only just turned 23 years old. If he keeps putting in performances like that against sides like that then a few teams who didn’t pull the trigger this summer may end up feeling like they’ve pissed away the chance for a real bargain, because the longer he plays like that and on that stage the more his stock rises.

As someone else said, he is so much more than goals. He’s creative, he’s the perfect lone striker, he’s strong, he’s skilful and he can occupy and unsettle a backline all on his own, and he’s ours.
 

GeckoBear29

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If he keeps the head down and keeps scoring and not getting sent off he could be in the EPL next season.

Tbf, he’s already had two less red cards than this time last season
 

basiltherat

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Ollie McBurnie moved for 20m
If anyone would take him in a straight swap deal they need their head looked at
It takes about 2 minutes of watching them to see the gulf in class
Morelos is an EPL standard striker - no question
In 2/3 years I think he will be top CL / EPL level
Easily worth 30m+ today
 

Chester Loyal

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If he was better than every striker in England out with the top 4/6 then why didn’t any of them try and sign him?

He would’ve been available for around £17/20million in the summer which is pocket change to EPL teams.

The Feyenoord game summed up the best and worst of Morelos for me. He bullied their centre halves all night but he walks away (again) without a goal. The top top strikers play well and score goals in the “big” games.
 

Danger Zone

Just the tip...
If he was better than every striker in England out with the top 4/6 then why didn’t any of them try and sign him?

He would’ve been available for around £17/20million in the summer which is pocket change to EPL teams.

The Feyenoord game summed up the best and worst of Morelos for me. He bullied their centre halves all night but he walks away (again) without a goal. The top top strikers play well and score goals in the “big” games.
Again? He put us into the group stage with the only goal of the tie a mere 3 weeks ago. He scored in our Europa games last year, and he only had a couple of half chances which he fashioned for himself.

You really don’t like him to do you.
 

Der-goalie

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Much as I love wee Alfie I think it is hard to believe that every team/scout/manager in Europe gets it wrong, under rates Alfie and wee unbiased Bears call it correctly.

His decision making is still poor and his finishing erratic, in fact at times wild. He terrorised, absolutely terrorised, their defence last night but there were some poor moments and wild shots.

BUT I love him.

True , if he can add the little extra ounce of composure in these areas and game awareness ie team mates in better positions etc then easily could be a top striker in the EPL
 

bear wi nae hair

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Much as I love wee Alfie I think it is hard to believe that every team/scout/manager in Europe gets it wrong, under rates Alfie and wee unbiased Bears call it correctly.

His decision making is still poor and his finishing erratic, in fact at times wild. He terrorised, absolutely terrorised, their defence last night but there were some poor moments and wild shots.

BUT I love him.
I agree with this. His greatest strength is pulling the defenders around and absolutely doing them as soon as they make the mistake of getting too tight outside the box. However, he rarely finds a team mate once he’s clear.

He wouldn’t look out of place in an EPL squad but he wouldn’t be displacing the main striker any time soon at the top clubs.

I live down here and when I mention Alfie the comments from decent football fans is ALWAYS around his discipline.
 

Papasmurf

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Not that we should or would do business with them but Newcastle are happy to spunk money on Andy Carroll. Did West Ham not give him two contracts?
 

albert_left_peg

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I am stunned that no mid level EPL team took a gamble on him in the summer when his stock was relatively low. At £20m, that is not a huge amount of money down there anymore (McBurnie went for £15m) and when they come knocking in Jan or summer, I hope our price is now closer to £30m.

Made this comment a few times, but when watching the game on Dutch TV the other night, their studio panel was Van Basten, and Ronald De Boer and both couldn't shut up about how good a player he was. Touch, vision, strength, pace over 10 yds - Van Basten even questioned why he was still playing in Scotland.

These guys could see it, and I am sure as long as he cuts out the silly cards, we are going to see big offers soon.
 

yosser hughes

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the longer he is at ibrox,and doing what he does so well im convinced he will continue to develop and knock some of the rough edges from his game,its all money in the bank for us anyway ,and as things stand his value is going the one way,so when he does go,we should in all honestly, be very well compensated
 
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