Club 1872 Statement

jnloyal said:
Now that is a proper statement.

Its both balanced and accurate but you can bet your bottom dollar it wont get the same mhedia coverage as the Alkys presser today. The same person who unbelievably we are led to believe didnt even hear that his club captain was subjected to "sectarian" (according to the BBC) abuse last week and wasnt aware that he had been hit by a coin either.

If only a journalist had the balls to write a story like the C1872 statement that would be nice.
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It's when it gets to the editorial stage when it falls down - seems to me it is from the top in the media where this sh-- comes from.

The Tims realised this a long time ago and sought out senior positions in the media and in the SP, and stood for positions in local politics. It will take a while to redress any of that without standing up to it and bending the ear of UK government.
 
I am not one for statements but that is a very balanced piece of work and carefully crafted.

The west of Scotland has a real problem and the issue is entrenched on both sides. Rather than try to deal with the problem sensibly and proactively we see professional politicians use the situation to garner support of one interest group or another for their own benefit.

The video circulating with the wee lad singing the abusive song about Jimmy Bell really captures the extent of the problem, it way beyond what a football club can do to address this problem.

However for us as a set of fans we are faced with the reality of life in modern Scotland. If we cannot do more to stamp it out of Ibrox then be in no doubt our haters of which there are many, will enforce strict liability and we will be made an example of for all the wrong reasons.

We have to make that very difficult for the authorities to do. We can moan about level playing fields til the cows come home but reality is what it is. We are under the media spotlight. We have to fight smarter.
 
Outstanding statement and calls out all parties who fake offence while ignoring the other side of the coin.

Since Club1872 is a major shareholder in the club on behalf of the fans so it is right this statement comes from them.

Paragraph below is perfect.

If the Scottish establishment is serious about tackling these issues then we should have a real debate about the causes and possible solutions. This will require discussing not just football, despite its higher profile, but having a fair and honest discussion about other contributing factors in society.
 
Nailed it. The hypocrisy and double standards in the media, politicians and other clubs is breathtaking. It will be interesting to see if there is any response from the BBC
 
Excellent and to the point. Addresses both the problem and the lack of balance in the media. Unfortunately, although this represents a significant proportion of our support, it will be ignored by the media as they talk about Rangers again and again. I can only suggest we all spread it wide on social media.
 
Excellent statement,should have been what club put out,sick of this one sided shite,agree with other posters to take the discrimination against our club all the way
 
Superb statement. Well done.
Calling out the hypocrite Walker and his employers Sky is spot on.
He needs to get back in the studio in front of a UK audience with White and getting his arse kicked instead of licked.
 
Day three thousand in the statement wars. More words are added that change nothing and more than often come days after the narrative is set. If I never saw Another bloody statement again , it couldn’t be a day too soon.
Action not words. King should be visting the BBC in London. Laying it on the line. Not instantly forgotten statements , three this week alone and an interview that talks a good game but no real action. Statements are about as useful as petitions . Change absolutely Nothing .
 
Arkanoid said:
People on here will still complain and moan like children, which says far more about the individual than the club or the supporters group.
C1872 have picked up the slack on Kings statement! Excellent work
If we don't get parity then *** is fair game alongside OB, I'm sure either works for most.
Let's see how the media twist this?
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“If we don’t get parity then *** is fair game”

Jesus wept I’ve never read anything so plain dumb as that ,so we will keep shooting our selves in the foot so long as they don’t get called out for DOB stuff ? I mean really ?
 
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TN8 said:
That's absolutely tremendous.

Rangers and Dave King have said exactly what they needed to, and Club 1872 have spoken up for the fans.

Great stuff from all involved. Now let's see what happens next.
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You can see how coherently Rangers and Club 1872 are working together with regards releasing statements now. I'm happy with what has been said between Gerrard , King and Club 1872 collectively
 
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monkey magic said:
Well said. We are not the reason for sectarianism in this country and until society as a whole admits that and stops blaming 1 football club,(us) then we will always be living in a skewed society that doesn't want to address the real issues.

We have had plenty of sectarian abuse aimed at our club and manager from opposing fans and we need to highlight this more to ever have a chance of any sort of parity
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We live in a country where 5 year olds who have played together since they could walk are put into different schools purely based on the religion of their parents most of whom haven’t been in a church or chapel since they were married. That creates divisions , that is the root cause of sectarianism but no politicians will admit it. Easier to blame football fans
 
I’ve criticised club 1872 recently but that is , finally, a great statement , to the point , factual , and finally worth the paper it’s written on .

Now will it be printed in the press tomorrow , will it be read out on bbc Scotland ?
 
baselbear said:
Poor statement. It comes out as petty. Just like me on Twitter but not the tone I want from my supporters association.
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Can't agree with a single word of that.

It addresses the elephant in the room. Why is it ok for people to call protestants orange bastards or huns, but mention the word 19th Century Terrorist (which isn't even sectarian, incidentally) and a government inquiry is required.

And while we're at it, what about addressing apartheid schooling, if we're serious about tackling sectarianism. It isn't protestants, or jews or muslims who secularise education or society.
 
Southsideblueblood said:
Day three thousand in the statement wars. More words are added that change nothing and more than often come days after the narrative is set. If I never saw Another bloody statement again , it couldn’t be a day too soon.
Action not words. King should be visting the BBC in London. Laying it on the line. Not instantly forgotten statements , three this week alone and an interview that talks a good game but no real action. Statements are about as useful as petitions . Change absolutely Nothing .
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You really think 'visiting the BBC in London' is going to make a difference? Like any organisation, the BBC in London will 'support', as they see it, their subsidiary organisation and it's journalists. It would make not one jot of difference. The SNP and their hordes have been moaning to 'the BBC in London' about how hard done to they are by BBC Scotland for years. Setting aside the rather obvious fact that their claims are nonsense, 'the BBC in London', as expected, backed their own folks.

The statement gets the right message out there. This is, largely, a 'media war' and that is where it will be conducted.
 
jweebear said:
Clarke's sectarian faux meltdown and the subsequent bandwagon jumping by the usual suspects. NBM Dornan, English ect, has given us the perfect opportunity to highlight their point scoring, hypocrisy and Selective sectarianism. Ram it into them Bears it's an open goal for us.
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Agree completely.

We all have a part to play in this.

I've been vigorously pointing out on all my social media outlets the sheer hypocrisy of Boyd being called a fat orange bastard being laughed off, and one short rendition of Clarke being a sad 19th Century Terrorist bastard demanding a government inquiry.

It's an open goal. Fill the net troops.
 
a_weir said:
That’ll be the club 1872 that sit on the board of directors, who will have run this past the club and operate out of the stadium?

Don’t think for a minute that the club wouldn’t give a similar statement if it was in a position to do so
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Club 1872 don't yet sit on the club's board of directors. They are also, rightly or wrongly, independent of the club.
FF is a bizarre place at times. How can a post congratulating our great supporter's organisation trigger responses along the lines of don't think the club haven't given their ok, and the club would if they could. Praising Club 1872 is not taking any shine away from Rangers!
Club 1872 put out a good statement. It voiced the feelings of the majority of Rangers supporters it represents. Can't we all just be happy with that?
 
Call it strong arm negotiation mate! Don't get too upset about a post.
There is NO chance in hell they will accept the use of *** as an everyday, throwaway, 'its a good laugh' bit of banter comment.
The west of Scotland will implode if that were to be the case. So there's only real 1 viable option? Remove the football, take both terms off the table and we have a negotiation of 'parity'.
If you can't see that's what King and C1872 are striving for then it's a case of woods for the trees
 
Arminius said:
Can't agree with a single word of that.

It addresses the elephant in the room. Why is it ok for people to call protestants orange bastards or huns, but mention the word 19th Century Terrorist (which isn't even sectarian, incidentally) and a government inquiry is required.

And while we're at it, what about addressing apartheid schooling, if we're serious about tackling sectarianism. It isn't protestants, or jews or muslims who secularise education or society.
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The problem with the school debate is that there are none of the same problems in England and Wales between RC schools and public schools (Islamic schools different story perhaps) Ultimately it's how these children from any background or school use their education as an adult. This is where the West of Scotland is unique! A Catholic education won't inherently make you feel downtrodden, victimised and free to dehumanise fellow Christians. Society and a complicit media allows them to be all of those things under the RC umbrella...but as an adult
 
GimmeShelter said:


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Statement on Unacceptable Behaviour​
Dear Member,​

Club 1872 fully supports the stance of Rangers and Rangers' manager, Steven Gerrard in condemning all unacceptable behaviour in Scottish football. It is absolutely clear to us that Rangers has done and continues to do what it reasonably can to address this issue, which remains a problem amongst a minority of all clubs’ supporters and wider society. We will be happy to work with the club on future initiatives in this area.​

Unfortunately we see absolutely no viable way to eradicate these sporadic instances of unacceptable behaviour, as long as elements of the Scottish media, Scottish politicians and interest groups continue to sensationalise incidents based on their own prejudice or self interest.​

We are in the absurd situation where last weekend Sky pundit, Andy Walker, laughed about sectarian abuse of Kris Boyd and then days later took the polar opposite approach to similar abuse of Steve Clarke. We have seen four BBC Scotland pundits and journalists completely ignore the sectarian abuse of Kris Boyd but comment extensively on social media following the Steve Clarke incident.​

This is not just a media phenomenon, however. James Dornan MSP, a self styled sectarianism crusader who himself posed in front of a terrorist flag, ignored the sectarianism directed at Kris Boyd by fans of the club he supports, Celtic, but has now publicly demanded talks with Rangers over the Steve Clarke incident.​

Groups like Nil By Mouth and Show Racism the Red Card Scotland have taken the same approach - they completely ignored “orange b****rd” chants directed at Boyd but immediately sprung into action when Steve Clarke spoke about the subject.​

If the Scottish establishment is serious about tackling these issues then we should have a real debate about the causes and possible solutions. This will require discussing not just football, despite its higher profile, but having a fair and honest discussion about other contributing factors in society.​

We sense absolutely no appetite in Scotland to have that debate - almost every comment on the subject is superficial, one eyed or sensationalised. The term ‘whataboutery’ is now routinely used to shoot down any voice that requests parity in the treatment of these events. In fact, the sum total of the debate thus far has been manufactured media outrage, politicians with an agenda to raise their own profile and groups who rely on the publicity around these issues, as they relate to football, for funding.​

Club 1872 will be happy to take part in any honest dialogue on this subject, if such dialogue ever begins.​

Issued by Supporters Voice Limited, a Club 1872 company​

Club 1872​
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Good statement
 
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