Clyde SSB is only a football and a football business show only do not phone about anything else

Installer said:
Not going to be popular, I actually agree, I don't believe child abuse should be discussed on a football show.

There is a 2 page thread on here calling out an MSP for comparing both the financial situation and the child abuse cases. Clyde are basically saying the same as everyone as those sharing their outrage on that thread, there is no comparison and it is not something that should be compared.

One is ok to talk about on a football show as it had a direct impact on us and football, the other is child abuse.
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If it were as simple as that it could be a commendable stance to take however we all know it isn't.

"It is our view that we should only discuss matters relating to football or the business of running football clubs."

That line makes the rest absolutely invalid.
 
Surely the "business of running football clubs" involves the personnel they employ too? Otherwise, why do the SFA have a "fit and proper person" test?
 
Back in 2012 that horrible bitter prick Delahunt was absolutely loving Rangers problems. Constantly making wee snide remarks, sniggering, letting any poet ramble on talking non stop shite, exaggerating any debt figures while covering his papish arse with “allegedly” every two minutes. Haven’t listened since and feel much much cleaner for it.
 
That’s a ridiculous excuse for a show that used let bigot Phil 53 names on to spout his garbage multiple times and also allow any yahoo fan to make unsubstantiated claims about Rangers business affairs for years now.

They didn’t have a problem debating non football stuff for well over a decade when it wasn’t Celtic.

Absolute hypocrisy.
 
jf1960 said:
My reply from a Mr Graham Bryce from Radio Clyde after being put onto him from his bosses in England so there it is in black and white, they will happily talk about face painters and newsagents not being payed a couple of hundred quid but the most disgusting crimes of all at a football club canny be talking about that ..... Here is his reply


Hi John
Your email below has been passed to me.
As you will be aware Superscoreboard is a show on Clyde 1, a station that is designed to principally entertain our listeners in the West of Scotland with a mixture of great popular music, news and information and engaging presenters.
Our Superscoreboard show works really hard to be completely impartial and to reflect in a balanced way the views of all sides in any debate.
Within this we have to take editorial judgements on what elements we feel it is right to broadcast within an entertainment program.
We have taken the editorial judgement that any discussion of child sex abuse allegations are inappropriate for an entertainment program with a family target in mind. You will understand that we are also governed by strict OFCOM regulations on our content and its appropriateness for a family audience.
Whether those accusations were against any football club or people affiliated to any club we would treat them equally regardless of their affiliation.
It is our view that we should only discuss matters relating to football or the business of running football clubs.
We fully understand the desire by some for these matters to be discussed on the show but feel it is outwith the editorial boundaries of our entertainment program and our station and that other organisations are better placed to discuss, report and debate these matters.
I hope this gives you a greater understanding of our decision on this matter.
Best regards
Graham
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Email him back and tell him they weren’t too shy in discussing Rangers tax affairs which clearly weren’t a footballing issue.
 
I'm sure they previously discussed the perv who we threw out of the club after we discovered he was with us after hibs sacked him but did nothing to warn others.
 
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I think Clyde are worried that someone phones up, spouts an unsubstantiated lie on air and it gets them sued. And that is, as much as we might not like it, fair enough. They could be forced to pay out for potential defamation.

However if that is the case - then just say it instead of hiding behind this.
 
Installer said:
Not going to be popular, I actually agree, I don't believe child abuse should be discussed on a football show.

There is a 2 page thread on here calling out an MSP for comparing both the financial situation and the child abuse cases. Clyde are basically saying the same as everyone as those sharing their outrage on that thread, there is no comparison and it is not something that should be compared.

One is ok to talk about on a football show as it had a direct impact on us and football, the other is child abuse.
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You may well have a point. However, ask yourself one question.

Do you really believe that Radio Snyde would take this same view if it were Rangers Boys Club involved instead?

I think their behaviour and leniency towards all the filth would be financiers, from 2012 onwards tells you all you need to know.
 
Installer said:
Not going to be popular, I actually agree, I don't believe child abuse should be discussed on a football show.

There is a 2 page thread on here calling out an MSP for comparing both the financial situation and the child abuse cases. Clyde are basically saying the same as everyone as those sharing their outrage on that thread, there is no comparison and it is not something that should be compared.

One is ok to talk about on a football show as it had a direct impact on us and football, the other is child abuse.
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Child abuse that was covered up for decades.

The coverup allowed sponsors to dig deep and help Celtc win titles and trophies, no sponsorship very unlikely they could afford players and managers good enough to win trophies.

They gained a financial advantage and a footballing advantage by keeping stumm.

This is definitely a football story.
 
Installer said:
There is a 2 page thread on here calling out an MSP for comparing both the financial situation and the child abuse cases. Clyde are basically saying the same as everyone as those sharing their outrage on that thread, there is no comparison and it is not something that should be compared.
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What a load of waffle.
So are you basically saying discussing paedophiles and systematic abuse of children (in this case at CBC) is the same as comparing and drawing similarities with said crimes and tax avoidance?
What an incredible reach that is.
 
50p Flute said:
What a load of waffle.
So are you basically saying discussing paedophiles and systematic abuse of children (in this case at CBC) is the same as comparing and drawing similarities with said crimes and tax avoidance?
What an incredible reach that is.
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If you read a bit harder and slower you'll see that i am saying the opposite, there is no comparison, one crime significantly outweighs the other, I'll let you make up your mind which one.
 
Ok time become box clever here. Clyde wont discuss it.


Take to whoever will. I dont know who that will be but if we contact everyone and anyone and play the numbers / percentage game surely someone will.

Be it from uefa to fifa to radio station all over uk even just local radio station and local papers etc someone surely will pick it up.
 
Installer said:
If you read a bit harder and slower you'll see that i am saying the opposite, there is no comparison, one crime significantly outweighs the other, I'll let you make up your mind which one.
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I read it hard and slow enough.
I only mentioned 1 crime, systematic abuse of children.
Tax avoidance is not a crime, if you thought harder and typed your reply slower you'd not have made such a silly mistake.
 
Surely when Shellicks transfer dealings are hampered by huge payouts it will be "football business".

Will they mention it then ?
 
50p Flute said:
I read it hard and slow enough.
I only mentioned 1 crime, systematic abuse of children.
Tax avoidance is not a crime, if you thought harder and typed your reply slower you'd not have made such a silly mistake.
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You're not very good at this are you? show me where I mentioned tax avoidance.

In fact don't bother, I cant be bothered with you.
 
LisburnLoyalBear said:
Email him back and tell him they weren’t too shy in discussing Rangers tax affairs which clearly weren’t a footballing issue.
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As says above he did say " Football and Football Business" issues but i did reply to him to ask if I came on and asked about celtic paying a business £1m over 4 years could somebody tell me why as yet about 2 hours later I have had no reply
 
Installer said:
You're not very good at this are you? show me where I mentioned tax avoidance.

In fact don't bother, I cant be bothered with you.
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So what was the 'other' crime you were talking about? This should be interesting.
You really aren't very good at this are you?
In fact, don't even bother replying, I don't want any correspondence with you.
Weird mindset you have it must be said.
 
When they were happy to discuss all things rangers finances pre the Craig Whyte deliberate crash and burn (rumours were abound and growing arms and legs) they took a call where a caller said and I paraphrase “rangers have £30m of short term debt as when you look at their accounts it says so it under short term debtors (within 12 months)”.

Being an accountant I nearly crashed the car in fits of laughter when the panel took this at face value and actually said to the caller “I trust you understand the financials better than us so will have to take your word”.

So this retard with zero idea that a debtor is someone who owes you money is allowed to come on and be portrayed as some financial guru but the biggest sporting crime in Scottish history is not worthy of even being discussed? Sickening.

As someone wiser than me on here has said before - imagine this was a rangers child abuse scandal. Just imagine the outcry and the demands for investigations, reparations and punishment. It would make the ebt bloodlust look tame.
 
Yet we had to listen for days, weeks, months, years at that specky pr*ck Keevins giving us his expert opinion on EBT's and Tax, aye because that was highly riveting.

Paranoia or not if that was the other way about and it was us at the centre of a paedo ring i'm sure they would allow calls through about it to hammer us.
 
If Clyde won't accept calls about this on their football show they would surely have to talk about it on their Talk In show on a Sunday morning if someone was to phone them . If they refuse to talk about it on that then they are most certainly censoring news. The phone-in on a Sunday is broadcast all over Scotland and has a much bigger audience than the football shows.
 
Did we not have John McKay hosting news night or whatever a few times with our own Chris Graham on defending us against the poor excuse for a reporter Speirs and some tax expert from price Waterhouse, why are we not having similar programmes about recent events or are the tv people hiding behind the ‘it’s to sickening’ for tv audiences excuse, this should be out and them exposed for what they were covering for decades.
 
I totally get the fact that its such a really sad subject to talk about and puts the host and football pundits in a difficult position.... not sure talking calls about it will help in any way so do accept that but tell you what if it was Rangers and ofcourse it wouldnt be but if it was..... well you know the rest. Be a superscoreboard 4 hour special with auld shoo.

And he also says the show works hard to be fair and balanced so how come every time i listen, which isnt often these days, its the same lowlife calling in spewing bile about Rangers, they are never told nah mate dont call back you are way too bitter we dont want or need that on the show, its always a warm welcome.
 
You would like to think, in the case of heinous crimes against children, EVERY single media avenue would be getting used to get the message out there and let victims know that society is repulsed and offer our support.
 
Installer said:
Not going to be popular, I actually agree, I don't believe child abuse should be discussed on a football show.

There is a 2 page thread on here calling out an MSP for comparing both the financial situation and the child abuse cases. Clyde are basically saying the same as everyone as those sharing their outrage on that thread, there is no comparison and it is not something that should be compared.

One is ok to talk about on a football show as it had a direct impact on us and football, the other is child abuse.
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One had a direct impact on us eventually but it was speculated on for months before and they happily went along with it.
Prior to any actually legal verdict, we were openly called cheats on this show and our punishments were already decided.

You've completely got the wrong end of the stick if you think anyone here is comparing EBTs and child abuse.
We're asking, quite rightly, why one can be discussed and not the other.

This is a football matter, a football club used young footballers as sex objects and dangled a carrot of professional football to lure them in.
When they were found out, they issued football contracts to eliminate the threat of legal action.
 
HillbillyRFC said:
I think Clyde are worried that someone phones up, spouts an unsubstantiated lie on air and it gets them sued. And that is, as much as we might not like it, fair enough. They could be forced to pay out for potential defamation.

However if that is the case - then just say it instead of hiding behind this.
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They have a delay system on phone-ins. If they don't use it they are in serious trouble with the Broadcasting Authority if something goes wrong on air.
 
Allegations? Nope, more like convictions. Can the fact that they are ignoring the victims be discussed,Without going into details etc? What's wrong with that?
 
jf1960 said:
Be doing that next was gonna do BBC and Radio Scotland this week but these b#stards have wound me up now. For anybody that hasn't seen I contacted all of celtic's sponsors to tell them about being associated with this club so far got an answer from 2 Nirvana Europe and Mr Green's i think is some kind of online casino got virtually the same answer that they know about it and are monitoring it
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Is there a pinned thread with the complete list?
 
Installer said:
Not going to be popular, I actually agree, I don't believe child abuse should be discussed on a football show.

There is a 2 page thread on here calling out an MSP for comparing both the financial situation and the child abuse cases. Clyde are basically saying the same as everyone as those sharing their outrage on that thread, there is no comparison and it is not something that should be compared.

One is ok to talk about on a football show as it had a direct impact on us and football, the other is child abuse.
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Although i don't agree with you, you are entitled to your opinion, and you put it across in a very reasonable and civil manner.

Ask yourself this though: if the rape of kids by a paedophile ring had been going on at Ibrox instead for 50 odd years, do you think Clyde - and many another Scottish media outlet - would be anywhere near as reticent to be discussing it?
I'm guessing not, in the certain belief that they'd be letting us have it, every day of the week, with both barrels blazing.
 
ChiefWahoo said:
One had a direct impact on us eventually but it was speculated on for months before and they happily went along with it.
Prior to any actually legal verdict, we were openly called cheats on this show and our punishments were already decided.

You've completely got the wrong end of the stick if you think anyone here is comparing EBTs and child abuse.
We're asking, quite rightly, why one can be discussed and not the other.

This is a football matter, a football club used young footballers as sex objects and dangled a carrot of professional football to lure them in.
When they were found out, they issued football contracts to eliminate the threat of legal action.
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Understatement of the week. A display of mental gymanstics that Michael Stewart and other rabids would be proud of.

To think that people would be phoning a football phone-in to talk about the actual abuse rather than the 'football matters' that stem from it is bizarre to say the least.
 
I am not sure what benefit we would get from discussing this case on Clyde SSB. It is mostly listened to by Celtic fans. The rest who listen will be well aware of whats going on.

If anywhere it should be highlighted is the front page of national newspapers across the UK and further. A discussion should be had on Talksport to discuss this in a broader less biased manner. This further increases the media coverage and coverage of the story of Celtic Football Club and how despicable they have been to try and protect their own reputation rather than the welfare of children who were sexually abused by people in their employment.
 
weetam3106 said:
There is nothing surer than were it RFC at the centre of this scandal that it’d be getting nightly coverage on snide and bbc shortbread. Sturgeon would be leading an enquiry and the sfa would be seeking to punish us. Nothing surer.
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100% and Documentaries would be getting BAFTA’s and the like
 
Installer said:
Not going to be popular, I actually agree, I don't believe child abuse should be discussed on a football show.

There is a 2 page thread on here calling out an MSP for comparing both the financial situation and the child abuse cases. Clyde are basically saying the same as everyone as those sharing their outrage on that thread, there is no comparison and it is not something that should be compared.

One is ok to talk about on a football show as it had a direct impact on us and football, the other is child abuse.
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Agree with you up to a point but it's going to be very difficult for them to ignore the elephant in the room if it starts affecting the football side in terms of enquiries by the football authorities, players/managers not wanting to be there, budgets being reduced due to compensation payments, etc...

And surely with his knowledge of the club and friendships with the people on the inside of it, Hugh Keevins would be a good source of information to the police.

There's no doubt there was a feeding frenzy over Rangers tax cases a few years ago and most people in mainstream media overstepped the mark helping to exagerate our financial issues and causing us harm. In this case it appears that the crimes are so serious that the mainstream media is attempting to avoid it until it has to deal with it. Let's hope the proper authorities deal with it as they should, then there's no excuse for the media not to report it.
 
EH47 said:
Although i don't agree with you, you are entitled to your opinion, and you put it across in a very reasonable and civil manner.

Ask yourself this though: if the rape of kids by a paedophile ring had been going on at Ibrox instead for 50 odd years, do you think Clyde - and many another Scottish media outlet - would be anywhere near as reticent to be discussing it?
I'm guessing not, in the certain belief that they'd be letting us have it, every day of the week, with both barrels blazing.
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It is hypothetical, and you may well be right but doesn't change my opinion that child abuse is not a topic for a football phone in.
 
RangersForever said:
Agree with you up to a point but it's going to be very difficult for them to ignore the elephant in the room if it starts affecting the football side in terms of enquiries by the football authorities, players/managers not wanting to be there, budgets being reduced due to compensation payments, etc...

And surely with his knowledge of the club and friendships with the people on the inside of it, Hugh Keevins would be a good source of information to the police.

There's no doubt there was a feeding frenzy over Rangers tax cases a few years ago and most people in mainstream media overstepped the mark helping to exagerate our financial issues and causing us harm. In this case it appears that the crimes are so serious that the mainstream media is attempting to avoid it until it has to deal with it. Let's hope the proper authorities deal with it as they should, then there's no excuse for the media not to report it.
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Bold bit I completely agree, until then, no place for it on a football phone in.
 
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