Co-efficient - not as promising as it was a few weeks ago
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Bigbluebear
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Fair chance all 5 of the teams left from Ukraine and Turker get knocked out the groups.
If Kiev and Shaktar both drop into the Europa league then Ukraine will likely overtake us
If Kiev and Shaktar both drop into the Europa league then Ukraine will likely overtake us
Blueranger45
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we know who to blame though 
wonder if lego eater wants to give us another pep talk for all the Scottish teams
wonder if lego eater wants to give us another pep talk for all the Scottish teams
ssblue
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JCDarcheville
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I'd love it if their ineptitude in Europe would result in us playing in the Champions League (even if through qualifiers, we're good at those whilst their second place is only good enough for Europa!
Midfield General
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It's time the other teams started pulling their weight
albertz81
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Turkey will likely lose both clubs still in europe completely before christmas. Sivasspor perhaps have a chance of getting out their EL group, just a point behind 2nd place.
Shakhtar and Dynamo Kiev will both likely drop down the Europe League. You'd fancy Shakhtar to do quite well having reached the semis last year. Dynamo Kiev bit of a wildcard but Shakhtar hammered them 3-0 in Kiev few weeks back.
I think if we are to stay ahead of Ukraine in the rankings we are going to have to get to the final stages of the Europe League.
Shakhtar and Dynamo Kiev will both likely drop down the Europe League. You'd fancy Shakhtar to do quite well having reached the semis last year. Dynamo Kiev bit of a wildcard but Shakhtar hammered them 3-0 in Kiev few weeks back.
I think if we are to stay ahead of Ukraine in the rankings we are going to have to get to the final stages of the Europe League.
Shakhtar will finish bottom of their CL group, Kyiv will probably finish 3rd aye.
Sivasspor still in with a shout of qualifying from their EL group. Istanbul will finish bottom of their CL group so they will be gone.
We’ve still got a decent shot at finishing 11th I reckon, it’s completely down to us though. We won’t be getting any help from the poets
Sivasspor still in with a shout of qualifying from their EL group. Istanbul will finish bottom of their CL group so they will be gone.
We’ve still got a decent shot at finishing 11th I reckon, it’s completely down to us though. We won’t be getting any help from the poets
Clementime
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That would be karma at work.
albertz81
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The tramps shit run in the EL has not helped the co-eff.
Since they are already out, it is probably not the worst scenario if they win their final two games - albeit highly unlikely.
Hopefully Rangers take maximum points from our final matches - should not underestimate our opponents though - these are hard games.
Since they are already out, it is probably not the worst scenario if they win their final two games - albeit highly unlikely.
Hopefully Rangers take maximum points from our final matches - should not underestimate our opponents though - these are hard games.
Its-Sebo
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That mob are getting a lot of stick for being too focused on us, not building for the future, and falling asleep at the wheel. I think it's pretty clear they actually are planning ahead and trying to sabotage the coefficient in order to prevent us from getting straight into the CL groups at the end of next season.
der_hammer10
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Direct entry to the Champions League group stages in a couple of years? That is absolutely massive.
And there’s sure as shit only one team that’s responsible for that becoming a possibility.
And there’s sure as shit only one team that’s responsible for that becoming a possibility.
StaunchEnclosure
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Do Ukraine not have a big chunk of points falling off next year? Like 22 points
Blueranger45
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it might just be the idea that they are pish and can't beat teams like Sparta
if you look at the teams who have got into the CL this year, I'd say we've beaten more quality in the EL qualifiers/group stages in the last few years so as much as it would be difficult, it's not impossible that we couldn't qualify for the CL groups if we were to win the league this season
Midtjylland - beat them last year in the EL
Krasnodar - beatable
Olympiakos - same
Ferencvaros - we'd have beaten them if we were the ones playing the CL qualifier
Kiev and Salzburg are the only other two who I'd say would be more difficult over a 2 leg match
Danny_1872
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Well done you mentally challenged fucks.
Kidding, them getting beat is preferable.
Kidding, them getting beat is preferable.
The Blue Iceberg
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No idea mate but I bet you @rangeral will be able to help us out.
Nerf Herder
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Job done Lurgan Flopp.
MurciaBear
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Maybe not seeing the full picture here, but why would we want them to win their last two games? Two wins equals two win bonuses...I personally want them to get pumped in both games and leave the Europa League with as little as possible (given they've already fucked the co-efficient job).
The potential rewards for Rangers of these additional co-eff points (should Rangers and the tramps both win our last remaining 2 games each) would dwarf the inconvenience of them getting win bonus cash.
If this could lead to Rangers having an easier passage to the Champions League groups then IMO it is worth the pisser of them getting 2 x EL win bonuses.
Beer Belly Loyal
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Ukraine 5.5 points falling off, Scotland 4.3.
Turkey will lose 9.7.
Austria who are 9th will lose 7.3 which means 3 points more than Scotland and right now are only 3.2 points ahead (33.8 to 30.6). They still have four teams in Europe but there's a possibility all of them won't progress from the group stage.
CL
Red Bull are bottom with 1 point, 2pts behind Loko Moscow who they play away next week.
EL
Rapid sitting 3rd on same points as Molde who they'll play in a fortnight. Rapid play Arsenal next week, Molde meet Dundalk so could already be out by that time.
Lask 3rd three points behind both Spurs and Antwerp, doubt they will qualify.
Wolfsberger 3rd a point behind Feyenoord have a decent chance as they have Feyenoord at home in a couple of weeks.
If Rangers can win both of their games then get a reasonable draw in the knock-out stage then who knows.
rangeral
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@Beer Belly Loyal has explained it
Rathcoole_bluenose
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Can we not just win the europa league and get a champions league place
When we get out of the group Tav should go to the papers and talk about how we need all Scottish teams to start pulling their weight to help out with coefficient points.
At the same time, us winning the league and entering the group stages and them remaining in the EL is no back thing.
At the same time, us winning the league and entering the group stages and them remaining in the EL is no back thing.
wee bud's pit boots
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Don't agree with them winning that gives them revenue.
The Blue Iceberg
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rangeral
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One area others can give information on@Beer Belly Loyal looking like a contender for your crown Al!
Beer Belly Loyal
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@The Blue Iceberg No chance of that bud, took me ages to source that information @rangeral has it all in his head.@Beer Belly Loyal looking like a contender for your crown Al!
Stuhercules
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Remember this ?
Renoranger
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Aye right, winning matches breeds winning and could carry over to league matches.
Losing is best for them. This may negatively affect league form.
We need to increase our points lead in case we slip up here and there.
Too much at stake this season.
The Blue Iceberg
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Ha ha, was only joking mate nobody will take Al's place anytime soon, but you done well to work out what you did BBL.
It's took me ages to even analyse what you've entered never mind researching it all, but you did get me thinking about Rapid Vienna especially after they knocked us out a few years ago, seems like a lifetime ago now!
They only need to better their 1 nil defeat against Molde in the last game to qualify in 2nd place, so it would be fantastic for us to win our group then get some revenge if we drew them in the last 32.
Watched the highlights of our last match against them when we were so unlucky with a much poorer team than now, here's a link if anyone's interested...
SirAlfredofMorelos
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I think Dynamo Kiev will go into the Europa. Shaktar should hopefully lose to Real and Inter. The other Ukrainian mob are all but out of the Europa.
Istanbul will go out and hopefully lose both on the way. The Turkish side in the Europa League have a chance to go through but they need to beat Villarreal to do it.
If we beat Liege and take a point in Lech, we should hopefully have enough for 11th (as long as we match how far Dynamo go).
The Pontiac Bandit
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They are 11.75 ahead of us but next year 7 comes off their total and the following year another 8 comes off.
So they lose 15 points in the next 2 season while we lose 0.25.
The last 3 years totals
Are us 22, them 19.
That's the risk I suppose.
Are we confident enough that we are good enough to maintain our lead should they go on a run of wins until Rangers play them and beat them again?
MurciaBear
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I see what your saying: would the co-efficient points make THAT much of a difference tho?
If it were the difference between direct CL group entry and having to play a qualifier then fair enough; am just not sure it would make that much of a difference, but not from a position of knowledge, so stand to be corrected.
Now, if it helped screw them to the wall, I would take a qualifying round.
MatangiBear
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I see the point regarding Septic winning the next 2 games to help with the coefficient - But we all know its not gonna happen.
It should be called the Rangers efficient!! They contribute nothing.
It should be called the Rangers efficient!! They contribute nothing.
I am not sure either mate.
If it meant we only had to play one easier qualifying round instead of two difficult one then there is a case there.
Completely get that them winning any match is abhorrent to all of us.
As another poster said though, the chance of them winning their two matches is unlikely in the extreme.
Hopefully Rangers do the business and keep the blue flag flying high.
How far would we need to get this season to overtake them for next ?
Cutty/Young
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I don't agree with the way it's all set up, knocked out of the CL qualifying rounds and drop into final qualifyers in Europa league.
Finish third in the CL group stages and straight into the last 32 of the Europa league, so bank around £30m from the CL and could end up in a situation where teams knocked out could make more money by continuing in the Europa league, first and second placed teams could get knocked out in the next round,while those in third place in theory could be a few rounds more and make millions more for being knocked out at group stages.
They then all have an extra chance to keep boosting their co-efficient after being knocked out by playing teams of weaker quality.
Just goes to show how important the CL group stages are knowing even if your knocked out you get a second bite of the cherry.
Even in the last 32 of the Europa you then have all the CL drop out's making it much harder for the smaller teams and all seeded.
Beer Belly Loyal
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Something else @The Blue Iceberg
Belgium are in 9th place, Scotland are only 4.475 behind them, Belgium lose a massive 12.5 points next season.
4 clubs still have games to play though.
Brugge, can't go further in CL but looking good for a place in the EL.
EL clubs.
Standard will go out even a draw against us wont save them, we have to beat them.
Antwerp top just now, will qualify I think.
Gent are already eliminated, bottom with no points.
Aye, took me ages to do this.
The Blue Iceberg
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Can't beat Friday nights in lockdown, fùcking epic!Something else @The Blue Iceberg
Belgium are in 9th place, Scotland are only 4.475 behind them, Belgium lose a massive 12.5 points next season.
4 clubs still have games to play though.
Brugge, can't go further in CL but looking good for a place in the EL.
EL clubs.
Standard will go out even a draw against us wont save them, we have to beat them.
Antwerp top just now, will qualify I think.
Gent are already eliminated, bottom with no points.
Aye, took me ages to do this.
Liviger1984
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We are 30th in this seasons co-efficient( just checked on the UEFA website) ahead of some very good teams. Gerrard and the staff and players have been amazing. We should be proud of what we have achieved so far.
MurciaBear
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Ha, very true. It's a good point. They will get pumped twice so it's irrelevant. It's about US. WATP.
