Des Lynam - Ally McCoist has mastered the art of co-commentary

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Ally McCoist has mastered the art of co-commentary – he is an utter delight​



As live football receives more coverage and there is a match on virtually every night, the art of co-commentary is becoming more and more prevalent. A few years ago, commentators often went solo because there was less coverage of live games, or once or twice when a broadcaster felt he might be undermined by not having total control of the output. Anyway, the current batch of sidekicks features lots of talents, the best of whom for my money is Ally McCoist. And boy are the TV companies keeping him busy.

Take McCoist’s recent schedule for proof of that. On a Tuesday last month it was a late night at Exeter for the FA Cup match with Nottingham Forest, which went to extra time and penalties. The following day it was a dash up to Liverpool for the Merseyside derby. Then on Sunday it was to Newcastle, who took on Brighton in the Cup.

More recently from Newcastle to Europe, starting with Aston Villa’s match in Bruges, then on to Paris St-Germain against Liverpool before heading east to Istanbul for Fenerbahce against Glasgow Rangers. Ally is at it again this week, too. Leverkusen on Tuesday for their defeat by Bayern Munich, and back to Villa on Wednesday night for the return leg.

McCoist has the perfect knack of being informative and amusing without trying to dominate his colleague. Although he has an obvious Scots accent, he is easily understood, unlike some of football’s giants from north of the border. Mind you, he will sometimes produce a phrase that we Sassenachs don’t often hear, such as to “header it” or “go back the way”. There is no doubt he is enjoying himself, despite all the travelling.

Some years ago, Ally abandoned his prolific media career. At the time he was a regular captain on A Question of Sport, acting in films and co-hosting a chat show. In peace nothing so became Ally as modest stillness and humility, but soon he would have to stiffen up the sinews and summon the blood for it was time to go to war. His beloved club Rangers had fallen on hard times – financial irregularities had meant that this powerhouse of Scottish football had been demoted to the bottom tier of the game. Time for McCoist to roll up his sleeves and come to the rescue. First he rejoined the club as coach and then as manager.

That is all in the past and Ally is back to his jovial self. I had the pleasure of working with him at both the BBC and ITV. We found ourselves covering the European Championship in Portugal in 2004. One night in Porto we went with the great Sir Bobby Robson to the only Indian restaurant we could find. Bobby was not happy. “I’ve never had a curry or drunk lager in my life,” he said. With some cajoling from the rest of us, he decided to sample both and by the end of the evening was enjoying plentiful supplies of each. Ally nudged me, “Look at him,” he said, “he’s only one step away from his first crack cocaine!” We roared –Bobby too.
 
Although he has an obvious Scots accent, he is easily understood, unlike some of football’s giants from north of the border.


The arrogance of the English. Only they can be understood….

Giants? I guess he’s talking about Alex Ferguson here? Is he difficult to understand from an English perspective?


Mind you, he will sometimes produce a phrase that we Sassenachs don’t often hear, such as to “header it” or “go back the way”.

Would love to know what he says instead of these phrases? Can’t think of any alternative myself.

Anyway, apart from that he is correct the stations can’t get enough of our Super.
 
Although he has an obvious Scots accent, he is easily understood, unlike some of football’s giants from north of the border.


The arrogance of the English. Only they can be understood….

Giants? I guess he’s talking about Alex Ferguson here? Is he difficult to understand from an English perspective?


Mind you, he will sometimes produce a phrase that we Sassenachs don’t often hear, such as to “header it” or “go back the way”.

Would love to know what he says instead of these phrases? Can’t think of any alternative myself.

Anyway, apart from that he is correct the stations can’t get enough of our Super.
Des Lynam is Irish
 
As a Glaswegian I was often told but English senior colleagues that customers trust our accents especially our telephone voice when we slow down and speak with authority,
He called it out number one assist
he said to me people trust the accent it for some reason.
Coisty brilliant at it and genuinely enjoys himself plus has he's a brilliant story teller.
 
As a Glaswegian I was often told but English senior colleagues that customers trust our accents especially our telephone voice when we slow down and speak with authority,
He called it out number one assist
he said to me people trust the accent it for some reason.
Coisty brilliant at it and genuinely enjoys himself plus has he's a brilliant story teller.
Your voice is clearly better than your writing anyway. :))
 
Although he has an obvious Scots accent, he is easily understood, unlike some of football’s giants from north of the border.


The arrogance of the English. Only they can be understood….

Giants? I guess he’s talking about Alex Ferguson here? Is he difficult to understand from an English perspective?


Mind you, he will sometimes produce a phrase that we Sassenachs don’t often hear, such as to “header it” or “go back the way”.

Would love to know what he says instead of these phrases? Can’t think of any alternative myself.

Anyway, apart from that he is correct the stations can’t get enough of our Super.
Is Danny McGrain a football giant?
 
Although he has an obvious Scots accent, he is easily understood, unlike some of football’s giants from north of the border.


The arrogance of the English. Only they can be understood….

Giants? I guess he’s talking about Alex Ferguson here? Is he difficult to understand from an English perspective?


Mind you, he will sometimes produce a phrase that we Sassenachs don’t often hear, such as to “header it” or “go back the way”.

Would love to know what he says instead of these phrases? Can’t think of any alternative myself.

Anyway, apart from that he is correct the stations can’t get enough of our Super.

I think he might be generalising, and tbh might be referring to some like Kenny Dalgliesh (mibbies aye) or Frank McAvennie, who do still have broad and difficult to follow accents.

And as for the phrases ”head it”, or ”move backwards”
 
The English love McCoist and all my wives side keep talking about him when the subject of football pops up. He is great ambassador for us.
A load of Arsenal fans I know seem to have an issue with Ally McCoist, always moaning on a WhatsApp group I’m on when he is covering a match.

“I can’t understand him” and all that nonsense.
 
unreal the amount of times ill shout something out when watching a big game and super will literally repeat what I said.

hopefully tonight its 'what a goal !!!'


love him .
 
Setting aside the inaccuracy about how Ally rejoined Rangers, that’s a nice piece.

The “enthusiasm” Ally brings to everything is such an important part of his broad appeal. For too long we had the likes of Lawrenson making co-commentating duties sound like he was being tortured; whereas the joy the game brings just resonates from Ally.

Like everyone, he has a few little phrases he repeats so often that they’ve become a meme, and I don’t always agree with his analysis - but I absolutely love hearing him and it adds to the game I’m watching instead of taking away from it. It’s like watching it sat beside your mate.
 
Surprised it’s not already been mentioned (but apparently folk are a bit precious about the Scottish accent) but this is a great line

but soon he would have to stiffen up the sinews and summon the blood for it was time to go to war. His beloved club Rangers had fallen on hard times
 
I like Ally's commentary and so do most people it would seem. With the exception of the tims of course but they don't count.
 
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And from fans that adored the Shakespeare of football, Mr Paul Merson.
 
I've noticed recently that Steve McManaman is trying to adopt the Ally way of commentating.

He's attempting to be more informative and amusing without dominating his colleague, saying things and laughing when it's not the slightest bit funny making himself even more difficult to listen to.
 
Des has got his dates a bit out regarding Ally rejoining as Walter’s assistant in 2007 and the financial meltdown of 2012.
 
I think what sticks out for me is, the commentators themselves seem to like having Ally on board with them. It says a lot that the one country that doesn't appreciate him, is his own. Scotland of the 21st century, bitter and spiteful.
 
I think what sticks out for me is, the commentators themselves seem to like having Ally on board with them. It says a lot that the one country that doesn't appreciate him, is his own. Scotland of the 21st century, bitter and spiteful.
Ally's popular with most Scots, apart from you know who.
 
As a Glaswegian I was often told but English senior colleagues that customers trust our accents especially our telephone voice when we slow down and speak with authority,
He called it out number one assist
he said to me people trust the accent it for some reason.
Coisty brilliant at it and genuinely enjoys himself plus has he's a brilliant story teller.
Glasgow accent is seen as sympathetic also
 
I think he was on Talksport last week and made a comment on Dessers goal against Fenerbache when he said " I'm not sure the English listeners will understand but that was only over by a bawhair". Nice one Ally.
Baw hair an official measurements heard various use of it down the years in Scotland and north west of England down there it was usually ball hair lol
 
Why does he not just praise him and leave it at that. No need to criticise a Scottish accent. Pointless bit of the article and comes across as old fashioned and arrogant.
Behave. It's nothing more than a bit of banter, much the same as I've said to English people, why don't you lot use the letter H. No harm done and it means nothing.
 
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