Dundee warn players they’ll suspend contracts unless they agree to wage cuts by midnight tonight

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Clause 12 to remain in SPFL contracts next season - despite players' union fury

CONTROVERSIAL Clause 12 is being kept in player contracts for next season. The section of standard SPFL deals has been retained despite fury from the players and their union about the way it can be…
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Controversial Clause 12 to remain in standard SPFL player contracts for next season – despite fury from players’ union
  • Robert Thomson
  • 28 May 2020, 13:59
CONTROVERSIAL Clause 12 is being kept in player contracts for next season.
The section of standard SPFL deals has been retained despite fury from the players and their union about the way it can be used.
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PFA Scotland chief executive Fraser Wishart vowed to fight the controversial clauseCredit: PA:press Association
The clause, which allows clubs to suspend salaries in the event of football being cancelled by the SFA, was key to Hearts forcing their wage cut rebels into backing down.
With the Covid-19 pandemic far from over and experts warning of a second spike later this year, there is a chance the game could be temporarily closed down again.
And with the SPFL keeping the section in their deals, Scotland’s stars would face similar cash worries if the virus strikes again.
SunSport told you back in mid-March how players up and down the country had been alarmed to find a standard clause in their deals which opens the door to clubs halting salary payments if the SFA suspend football.
The clause reads: “In the event of the Scottish FA deciding that the game shall be suspended, either entirely or in any district or districts as provided for in the articles of association of the Scottish FA, this Agreement shall be correspondingly suspended, unless the Club is exempted from such suspension or the Club otherwise determines.”
PFA Scotland boss Fraser Wishart urged clubs to work with playing staff to find solutions to any financial problems.
 
Just takes one player to take them to an employment tribunal bye bye Dundee but this is his game plan get sharing with Dundee united and then sell and build houses on Dens park. I bet you.
 
Tell them we will take Finlay Robertson for £5K and they can give it to their begging neighbours.Reap what you sow ya shower of shite.Incidentally when is the marquee friendly with a premiership powerhouse?
 
So he has an agreement with the owner to buy Dens park back and is negotiating with him mmm and he was going to build a new stadium mmmmm
 
govanite said:
Just takes one player to take them to an employment tribunal bye bye Dundee but this is his game plan get sharing with Dundee united and then sell and build houses on Dens park. I bet you.
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Dens isn’t theirs anymore. Camperdown land has been bought. They offered United the chance to rent their new ground for games but were told no.
 
govanite said:
So he has an agreement with the owner to buy Dens park back and is negotiating with him mmm and he was going to build a new stadium mmmmm
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That reads like somebody somewhere is going to be Losing a stadium. And we know it’s generally not the businessmen who lose...
 
What about this then
Dundee FC has said it will buy Dens Park outright – in order to move to a purpose-built new stadium at Camperdown.
Dark Blues general manager John Nelms said his company Dark Blues Property Holdings has an agreement in place with the stadium’s owner, former Dundee United director John Bennett, to buy the ground when the time is right.
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Dundee want to move to a 15,000 seat stadium near Dundee Ice Arena but signed a 20-year lease for Dens Park with Mr Bennett in 2013.
He bought Dens Park from the club for £500,000 so it could pay off debts.
Mr Nelms said: “John is a friend of the club and we have an understanding of what’s going to happen.
“He has been really good to the club, I have spoken to him several times and when we get to the stage things are moving we will sit down.
“We will buy Dens Park back, if everything goes well, that’s what we’ll do.”
Mr Nelms said he hopes the new stadium will be ready in less than three years but the arrangement in place with Mr Bennett gives the club room to manoeuvre if there are any delays.
He said: “That means that if we miss our target of 2020/21 then we don’t have to worry about having to leave at any certain time and messing him around.”
Mr Nelms also said he wants the new venue to stage concerts and the venue would have a capacity of 25,000 for those events.
He said: “It will be a multi-use stadium of which the football club will be one tenant but we will also have concerts there for up to 25,000 fans.
“We have worked closely with the council to find out what’s needed so there will be conference space too.”
The development will also include housing and even a crematorium.

But it is believed the price of the stadium could rise to more than £20 million because of access requirements, which are likely to include the creation of a new slip road.
The fact it’s also adjacent to the Kingsway, however, means close scrutiny is being paid to how it would be accessed.
Transport Scotland, the body responsible for the country’s trunk roads, require certain 
conditions to be met before they’ll give their blessing.
Mr Nelms said discussions with Traffic Scotland are under way about access to the site..


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Wilkinsvolley said:
That reads like somebody somewhere is going to be Losing a stadium. And we know it’s generally not the businessmen who lose...
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They have a site bought where they want to build a stadium and a crematorium - due to open next year - chances are won’t have enough cash to see the season out and the crematorium can be used to burn the old seats at Dens. All assuming the new stadium will ever be built of course!
 
Update. Not all of the players have been asked. The younger players on small wages have not been asked to take a pay cut. It only the higher earners.
 
barneythebear said:
They have a site bought where they want to build a stadium and a crematorium - due to open next year - chances are won’t have enough cash to see the season out and the crematorium can be used to burn the old seats at Dens. All assuming the new stadium will ever be built of course!
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Peh in the Skeh!

The stadium near Camperdown has always been seen as a joint venture between the Dundee teams, however United aren't bothered and haven't been for a long time. Dundee don't own Dens Park, its an exboard member who went to United which does. So if Admin does happen again the are safe in the knowledge they won't lose Dens
 
barneythebear said:
They have a site bought where they want to build a stadium and a crematorium - due to open next year - chances are won’t have enough cash to see the season out and the crematorium can be used to burn the old seats at Dens. All assuming the new stadium will ever be built of course!
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I honestly had no idea about any of that. I suppose that’s what comes with not caring about anything except Rangers( not a go at anybody who does pay attention).
 
Rumour has it that they actually sent the email 4 days ago saying no wage cuts then didnt have a phone call with anyone at celtic and changed their minds
 
The article makes it sound like they would still be contracted to the club with no wages.
I'd love to be a manager of a bunch of players that the club had forced to accept no wages for 6 months. Team spirit.☢️
 
Genuinely wonder if they were promised money making friendlies by Celtic who have now shafted them over...


The way Celtic promised teams in 2012 "dump Rangers, side with us" then shafted them.

%^*& them all.
 
Or the players can claim their firewall filtered out the email and it went to a spam folder they never checked...
 
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A slight digression :
The “Poet” McGonagall Denounces Football
John McGonagall, ropemaker, Step Row, was charged — before Bailie Macdonald, at the Dundee Police Court to-day — with malicious mischief. He pleaded not guilty. It came out in the evidence that prisoner was creating a disturbance in a public-house in Lochee on Saturday night, and interfering with and insulting customers. He refused to leave the premises when asked, and ultimately had to be ejected. On the way out he drove his hand through a glass panel in the door. McGonagall, the “poet,” father the accused, appeared in Court and said his son was very obedient, and regularly gave up all his earnings. He had often told his son he was keeping bad company, especially when he went among football players, and he said, without fear of contradiction, that most football players were addicted to drink, and but for John’s being in the Lochee public-house on Saturday night he would not have been before theCourt that day. Mr McGonagall had given his son advice repeatedly, but he had rejected it, and, like many other young men who had such a high opinion of football, laughed at the advice given by his parents. He was of the opinion that his son was led unthinkingly into the pnblic house, and seemed to be a plot because he (Mr McGonagall) denounced the publicans in his public appearances in Arbroath aud Dundee recently. He believed it was because the publicans could not get him decoyed into their dens iniquity that they tried to ruin his family. The Magistrate found the charge proved, and imposed a fine of 10s 6d, with the option of week’s imprisonment.
Evening Telegraph, 31st December 1888
 
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