Eriksen to be fitted with a heart starter

If I were him I would be seriously considering hanging up my boots.

What makes you get this condition that he has? Clearly he is a fit guy, in terms of exercise and diet so how can someone who probably lives a very clean life get such a heart condition.

Yet someone i.e me so far who doesn't live so clean can go through life without a heart condition.

For most of them its just unfortunate genetics. 30year olds keel over with heart issues all the time, you just dont hear about it because they arent on the pitch in the middle of an international football tournament.
 
Very interesting article here:


It appears that Ericksen was very similar to Muamba in that there was a specialist in the crowd who jumped in and intervened.

He doesnt seem particularly happy with the Danish Dr and I think its clear from that that more training for these medics and physios is required so that no time is wasted.

What a lucky lucky man. Had he not been there , who knows what the outcome would have been.
 
finally i have something in common with a world class football player, an ICD , In a way he was lucky to have it happen at that time , with my heart attack the Doctors said if i was sleeping i would have probably died .Good luck to him life is more important than football .
 
An ICD is an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator. It monitors and tries to correct any pacing issues with your heart .

It’s used for people with atrial fibrillation which, while undesirable, is not immediately life threatening but can lead to stroke so is normally used with blood thinners.

The life threatening condition is ventricular fibrillation which could be what happened to Eriksen. That needs immediate treatment, and I mean immediate. An ICD recognises the condition and shocks the heart back into a sinus rhythm. A pacemaker does not do this. An ICD is a super intelligent device which records all sorts of stuff to do with your ticker.

Excellent informative post.
 
An ICD is an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator. It monitors and tries to correct any pacing issues with your heart .

It’s used for people with atrial fibrillation which, while undesirable, is not immediately life threatening but can lead to stroke so is normally used with blood thinners.

The life threatening condition is ventricular fibrillation which could be what happened to Eriksen. That needs immediate treatment, and I mean immediate. An ICD recognises the condition and shocks the heart back into a sinus rhythm. A pacemaker does not do this. An ICD is a super intelligent device which records all sorts of stuff to do with your ticker.
Naw :D

But I do have and ICD on board so I know a fair bit about them.

Very interesting mate. I’m assuming Daley Blind must have an ICD or something similar.

Hope you don’t mind me asking but how/when did you come to be fitted with one? As others have said, this is likely not as uncommon as many would think.
 
I would be very surprised if he played again, but the wonders of modern technology might make it a possibility.

Daley Blind is back playing again with a Starter fitted, can’t see why CE won’t.
As I said mate,his call .
 
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Yeah, Danny Blind has the same thing I think. I read it described as a 'mini-defibrillator', which basically gives an electric shock if it identifies the heart has stopped or is out of rhythm.

Goodness knows how they supply it with enough power to do that. You'd imagine it would need a fair sized battery but they've obviously got around that somehow.
You just take it out and charge it at night mate, it’s easy.
 
Very interesting article here:


It appears that Ericksen was very similar to Muamba in that there was a specialist in the crowd who jumped in and intervened.

He doesnt seem particularly happy with the Danish Dr and I think its clear from that that more training for these medics and physios is required so that no time is wasted.

What a lucky lucky man. Had he not been there , who knows what the outcome would have been.
He was very lucky with the support available.

My Dad suffered a Cardiac Arrest when working in 2012. Like CE, no advance warning, it just happens.

He worked at a garden centre wholesalers and one of his work mates found him. His boss gave him CPR until the ambulance arrived. Took until the 12th shock until they got a response so full credit to the paramedics for preserving. His heart had stopped for 40 minutes.

A long journey and a full month in hospital after waking up on day 6.

If I was CE, I’d give up football and enjoy life with his family.
 
Very interesting mate. I’m assuming Daley Blind must have an ICD or something similar.

Hope you don’t mind me asking but how/when did you come to be fitted with one? As others have said, this is likely not as uncommon as many would think.
I had a major heart attack in 2010 and nearly died. I had bypass surgery and while I was in hospital recovering in intensive care I went into ventricular fibrillation but I was in exactly the right place. If this happens to you in the street you have very little chance of survival.

For that reason I had the ICD inserted. You need to have them checked every few months and when the battery starts to run out they replace them with a new one. That's about every 6 - 9 years. I'm on my second device.

Mine's only triggered once so I have been lucky. When it shocks you it is so instantaneous that by the time you realise it's happening, it's all done and dusted.

These things are life savers. I wouldn't be sitting here typing today if it wasn't for mine.

And you are right, there are more out there than you would think.
 
I've had an ICD since I was 17 (37 now).

If I was any good I could probably still play football now but it all depends on what the underlying cause for his cardiac arrest was.

20 years later I still haven't been diagnosed with anything - I just collapsed one day and was dead for around 4 minutes but I live a fairly normal life now.
 
I had a major heart attack in 2010 and nearly died. I had bypass surgery and while I was in hospital recovering in intensive care I went into ventricular fibrillation but I was in exactly the right place. If this happens to you in the street you have very little chance of survival.

For that reason I had the ICD inserted. You need to have them checked every few months and when the battery starts to run out they replace them with a new one. That's about every 6 - 9 years. I'm on my second device.

Mine's only triggered once so I have been lucky. When it shocks you it is so instantaneous that by the time you realise it's happening, it's all done and dusted.

These things are life savers. I wouldn't be sitting here typing today if it wasn't for mine.

And you are right, there are more out there than you would think.
What is it like when it triggers? Having seen the way a body reacts to a defibrillator shock, I'm picturing you in the street doing this:

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Hope he has a full recovery and manages to play again at top level. Always liked his style of play especially when he put south ireland to the sword.
 
What is it like when it triggers? Having seen the way a body reacts to a defibrillator shock, I'm picturing you in the street doing this:

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That's only on a Saturday night mate. :D


As I say, it's only happened to me once and it comes as a big surpirise but by the time you've thought wtf? that's it done.

I think if the first jolt doesn't work then it will keep repeating the process and that might not be so much fun.
 
That's only on a Saturday night mate. :D


As I say, it's only happened to me once and it comes as a big surpirise but by the time you've thought wtf? that's it done.

I think if the first jolt doesn't work then it will keep repeating the process and that might not be so much fun.
Fecking amazing stuff to be honest. Truly awesome what can be done.
 
That's only on a Saturday night mate. :D


As I say, it's only happened to me once and it comes as a big surpirise but by the time you've thought wtf? that's it done.

I think if the first jolt doesn't work then it will keep repeating the process and that might not be so much fun.
Can confirm it does.

I've been shocked twice in a row once.

Not pleasant.

Tbh I used to get shocked fairly regularly. Being quite young when I got it I didn't really want to make the required lifestyle changes shall we say. It got to the point that I could feel the thing trying to pace before the big shock came so I was waiting for it happening. That's 10 times worse than getting one out the blue.
 
finally i have something in common with a world class football player, an ICD , In a way he was lucky to have it happen at that time , with my heart attack the Doctors said if i was sleeping i would have probably died .Good luck to him life is more important than football .
I’ve got a heart monitor under my skin that just rests on my chest plate,constantly monitoring my heart rate,what happened to Eriksen is scarily similar to me,expect his was on a park and I was in a kids play area,I woke up in the fucking Royal,thankfully
 
Daley Blind has something similar fitted does he not? And still playing top flight football.
The panel talking before tonight's Denmark game suggests that each case is reviewed on its own merits and in the case of Danny Blind he didn't collapse in the way Christian did.
 
Does this suggest they've found an underlying condition?

Heard a doctor on the radio the other day saying whether he played again would be dependent on what they found, but if he had any kind of damage/scarring from the incident, then in the UK he'd certainly not be allowed to play again.

Does having something like this mean he's more or less likely to be back on the field?

PS - The doctor also mentioned the amount of testing they get and that this doc had actually worked with him (Spurs I assume) and done testing on him, so was worried they'd missed something when he went down. Then pointed out he'll have had subsequent tests at Inter, who would've had to miss it too.
I suspect that after his collapse his club would have great difficulty in getting health insurance for him which might be another factor.
 
The panel talking before tonight's Denmark game suggests that each case is reviewed on its own merits and in the case of Danny Blind he didn't collapse in the way Christian did.
Would have imagined that to be the case.

I wish the man nothing but the best, whatever happens
 
Would have imagined that to be the case.

I wish the man nothing but the best, whatever happens
As Souness said he was unlucky ( that it happened ) but lucky that he received immediate significant assistance. As an example of being lucky Souness said Christian could have collapsed taking the bins out or cutting his grass in the garden.

It was said that a German cardiologist who had that day been training personnel on what to do in that exact eventuality was in the crowd at the game, jumped over the barriers and on to the pitch to provide immediate specialist treatment.
 
Honestly so happy for CE that he is on the mend, and I would be thrilled if he does pull on his boots again.
But will also totally respect of he decides that’s it for him.that wold knock my confidence as well
 
Think if I was him and it was an option I would be looking at getting an insurance pay out as can’t play anymore and looking at coaching to stay in the game.
Life is to short, he has a young family and money in the bank to have a comfortable life to enjoy his family.
 
As Souness said he was unlucky ( that it happened ) but lucky that he received immediate significant assistance. As an example of being lucky Souness said Christian could have collapsed taking the bins out or cutting his grass in the garden.

It was said that a German cardiologist who had that day been training personnel on what to do in that exact eventuality was in the crowd at the game, jumped over the barriers and on to the pitch to provide immediate specialist treatment.
Some coincidence, but thank Christ he was.
 
What is it like when it triggers? Having seen the way a body reacts to a defibrillator shock, I'm picturing you in the street doing this:

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My Dad’s activated not long after it had been fitted. I had just taken him down to the doctors and came back. I had just stopped outside the house and it went off and his body just shook once. He wasn’t even aware it had happened.
 
I'd be surprised if he plays again. He's in the twilight of his career anyway, so why take the risk. Probably safer just to call it a day than risk it happening again.
 
For most of them its just unfortunate genetics. 30year olds keel over with heart issues all the time, you just dont hear about it because they arent on the pitch in the middle of an international football tournament.
My wife,who is a nurse, just said the same thing as we were talking about this.
 
I have got an icd fitted, my dad had one as well (genetic heart condition) . He lived till 79 before that down on line of our family no one had made it past 44. You shouldn't really participate in contact sports if you have one but some people do. I take comfort from the fact that if the machines do ever rise up against humanity I will be eligible to fight for either side. I will probably go with the machines they seem a bit more staunch.
 
I think it's different. Is a pacemaker not more for generally regulating/managing heart rates using mild electircal pulses/shocks, while what he's getting is more like a defibrillator that shocks the heart into restarting/regulating again if it stops/falls to a dangerous level? Sounds similar when I write it like that but I think it's the jist...
That's basically what it is, if there was to be a repeat situation it does something similar to a defibrillator.
 
Does this suggest they've found an underlying condition?

Heard a doctor on the radio the other day saying whether he played again would be dependent on what they found, but if he had any kind of damage/scarring from the incident, then in the UK he'd certainly not be allowed to play again.

Does having something like this mean he's more or less likely to be back on the field?

PS - The doctor also mentioned the amount of testing they get and that this doc had actually worked with him (Spurs I assume) and done testing on him, so was worried they'd missed something when he went down. Then pointed out he'll have had subsequent tests at Inter, who would've had to miss it too.
He won’t play again, for one thing he would struggle to get insurance.
 
Following two heart attacks and heart failure, I had an ICD fitted in 2012. Walking is my only permitted exercise. I can walk for miles on the flat but can only manage about 20 metres going uphill. I have to avoid such as strong magnets, arc welding, and looking under car bonnets while the engine is running. Riding a bike or climbing ladders are not allowed either. I had ventricular tachycardia last February when my defiblirator stopped my heart rate going higher than 200 beats per minute. Eventually it fired (a very scary experience) to try and regulate the problem . I was told in E and A that this gave the staff time to prep me for being shocked. Luckily this worked. If his is only a mini defib, like Blind's then he may play again. If same as mine, he will sadly not play again.
 
Not something to expect to hear a super fit footballer get fitted.

I wonder if testing on athletes will increase after this incident.
Am sure I heard on one of the Euro
commentaries that there are a few professional footballers playing at the moment with pacemakers or internal defibrillators fitted.
 
Boy I used to work with had one fitted after a heart attack and it went off at work one day. Must be some shock as he went body popping across the room and then went to his knees. Had to then go to Raigmore till they download what happened and reset everything.
When an ICD shocks it's the equivalent of being repeatedly smashed in the chest with a baseball bat.
 
An ICD is an Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator. It monitors and tries to correct any pacing issues with your heart .

It’s used for people with atrial fibrillation which, while undesirable, is not immediately life threatening but can lead to stroke so is normally used with blood thinners.

The life threatening condition is ventricular fibrillation which could be what happened to Eriksen. That needs immediate treatment, and I mean immediate. An ICD recognises the condition and shocks the heart back into a sinus rhythm. A pacemaker does not do this. An ICD is a super intelligent device which records all sorts of stuff to do with your ticker.
It's not used for people just with that condition. Its also used for people with hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy which is life-threatening. there are also various forms of H.O.C.M and at its most serious a person can have an attack and sudden death syndrome can happen, many others are also placed on the heart transplant register due to the severity of their condition and potential for sudden death

I read above you saying you have an ICD but, you need to remember, there are many reasons people get one and not just for the condition you may have.
 
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It's not used for people just with that condition. Its also used for people with hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy which is life-threatening. there are also various forms of H.O.C.M and at its most serious a person can have an attack and sudden death syndrome can happen, many others are also placed on the heart transplant register due to the severity of their condition and potential for sudden death

I read above you saying you have an ICD but, you need to remember, there are many reasons people get one and not just for the condition you may have.
I’m no cardiologist mate, I’m only going on my own experience. I know that they are fitted to people that have a possibility of throwing a life threatening cardiac event and that these can have several different causes.
 
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