Fantastic new book about the history of the Orange Order in Glasgow
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JerseyLoyalist
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I’ve walked in that parade a few times.I posted this earlier. It was wiped. If you have to wipe it off again at least tell me why
I hope to see you again. And, of course, any others who are in London that weekend
mdingwall
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District 49's hall at Maxwell Road in Glasgow were subjected to a racist and sectarian attack over the weekend. A supporter of the racist, sectarian and criminal gang known as the IRA spray painted the hall with its initials.
The hall has been similarly attacked by bigots several times in the last few years.
The incident has been reported this morning to Police Scotland as a hate crime.
The hall has been similarly attacked by bigots several times in the last few years.
The incident has been reported this morning to Police Scotland as a hate crime.
JerseyLoyalist
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Hopefully.
Redhand_and_Crown
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Might be off topic but I remember years ago I watched a film about a young lad in the band and went out for the orange walk, i think it’s possibly 80s film. Just another Saturday or something I think it was called
Anywhere I could watch this? I’ve looked everywhere but can’t find it
Anywhere I could watch this? I’ve looked everywhere but can’t find it
mdingwall
Administrator
The October edition of the Orange Torch is out next week. All copies have been posted to agents and subscribers. Those who normally pick up their orders from Airdrie Orange Halls will be able to do so shorlty. Those who have arranged to pick them up from the new Grand Lodge offices at 21 Carlton Court in Glasgow can also do so.
THE ORANGE TORCH
21 Carlton Court, Glasgow, G5 9JP.
0141-414-1418
grandlodge@orangeorderscotland.com
The UK subscription is now just £15 (£20 overseas) and as well as cheque to the address above you can now pay by Paypal using the links below which may be more convenient for you.
https://tinyurl.com/OrangeTorchSubUK
https://tinyurl.com/OrangeTorchOverseas
THE ORANGE TORCH
21 Carlton Court, Glasgow, G5 9JP.
0141-414-1418
grandlodge@orangeorderscotland.com
The UK subscription is now just £15 (£20 overseas) and as well as cheque to the address above you can now pay by Paypal using the links below which may be more convenient for you.
https://tinyurl.com/OrangeTorchSubUK
https://tinyurl.com/OrangeTorchOverseas
Joined 121 Calton District in 1960. I spotted lots of friends, and family in the photo. Sis. M Peebles was the Worthy Mistress, she died in a tragic accident about 2 years later. there are three others in the photo who became WM., including my Mother, and my Sister. LOL121 are celebtating their100 anniversay this year.I am once again indebted to Brother John Dunbar for this newspaper clipping - this time from 1959 - I hope our readers can perhaps spot some old faces of friends and family.
Hateley's Mullet
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Billy Connolly in it?
theytriedtokillus
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It's the day of the Orange Parade in Glasgow, but for Jon, the thrill of leading the parade and swinging the mace soon turns to horror as he learns the truth behind the costumes and songs.
This is the synopsis for this. I was going to watch this again as I haven’t seen it since it was on play for today but this has put me off.
mdingwall
Administrator
Just got the picture off of Facebook
Stanley
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My gran is in the photo! As a wee boy I was taken on quite a few marches in Glasgow and Govan.I am once again indebted to Brother John Dunbar for this newspaper clipping - this time from 1959 - I hope our readers can perhaps spot some old faces of friends and family.
SimonLeBon
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Fantastic turn out of Orange Ladies, not sure how many are in the Ladies Institution these days?
Caught my interest there for a minute before remembering there's something else on that eveningAndrew Bonar Law memorial lecture
Sparky
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Pm sentFree to good homes - Orange Order demonstration programmes
I've got a fair number of doublers or triplers to give away.
Just PM me with your address and I will post them out to you.
I will allocate them randomly.
mdingwall
Administrator
Vanity Fair Print - Captain James Craig M.P., J.P.
Vanity Fair Print Captain James Craig - Orangeman 1911
Captain James Craig - Orangeman Vanity Fair Print dated 1911 for sale
www.antique-prints.co.uk
Unionist
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What has happened to the torch ? I stopped buying it years ago as it had lost its way as it was full of lodge presentation photos and very little reading .The October edition of the Orange Torch is out next week. All copies have been posted to agents and subscribers. Those who normally pick up their orders from Airdrie Orange Halls will be able to do so shorlty. Those who have arranged to pick them up from the new Grand Lodge offices at 21 Carlton Court in Glasgow can also do so.
THE ORANGE TORCH
21 Carlton Court, Glasgow, G5 9JP.
0141-414-1418
grandlodge@orangeorderscotland.com
The UK subscription is now just £15 (£20 overseas) and as well as cheque to the address above you can now pay by Paypal using the links below which may be more convenient for you.
https://tinyurl.com/OrangeTorchSubUK
https://tinyurl.com/OrangeTorchOverseas
Now, it’s got a great balance between politics, religion and the Order.
mdingwall
Administrator
All sold out, I'm afraid.
mdingwall
Administrator
I became the editor for a while.
DovRob
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Good to see that it sold all those printed. A fantastic book. Is there any talk of a reprint?
mdingwall
Administrator
The Passing of Brother John McLardie
I have the sad duty to inform you of the death of Brother John McLardie, the former Treasurer of District 49, Glasgow Southside Orange and Purple. He was a member of LOL 440, Lights of Glasgow.
Sadly, John was subjected to a street assault last year which resulted in his hospitalisation and in a coma. He passed away in a nursing home.
He gave freely of his talents to the Orange Order. He was “a lad o’ pairts” and he had a large number of interests including rugby, his former job as a tax inspector and voluntary work which included being Chairperson of the Govanhill Housing Association for many years.
He was possessed of a cheerful and helpful nature and provided much wise counsel to the District.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
I have the sad duty to inform you of the death of Brother John McLardie, the former Treasurer of District 49, Glasgow Southside Orange and Purple. He was a member of LOL 440, Lights of Glasgow.
Sadly, John was subjected to a street assault last year which resulted in his hospitalisation and in a coma. He passed away in a nursing home.
He gave freely of his talents to the Orange Order. He was “a lad o’ pairts” and he had a large number of interests including rugby, his former job as a tax inspector and voluntary work which included being Chairperson of the Govanhill Housing Association for many years.
He was possessed of a cheerful and helpful nature and provided much wise counsel to the District.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Orange County
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Condolences from LOL 74.
mdingwall
Administrator
THE LAYING TO REST OF BROTHER JOHN McLARDIE
A thank you to all who were able to come along to Linn crematorium today to see Brother John McLardie, the Treasurer of Glasgow Southside Orange & Purple District, off on his final journey.
I counted just short of 40 brothers and sisters following the cortege along with three flautists from the Cambuslang Britannia band, accompanied by the County Grand Master.
His coffin was covered by the Union Flag and the Rev Peter Davidge paid him a fulsome tribute.
The flowers which adorned the dais as were provided by lodges and individuals within the district and provided a lovely touch - thanks to Joyce for arranging that.
The hymn was “Will Your Anchor Hold” - a favourite of his, befitting an old member of the 3rd Company of the Glasgow Battalion of the Boys Brigade.
Today, surrounded by family, friends, work colleagues, neighbours and members of the Orange Order, he took his leave of this life.
His humour, intelligence and wise advice will be long remembered by all who knew him.
The reading was from the Book of Revelation, Chapter 21, reading from verse 1 to verse 7.
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
A thank you to all who were able to come along to Linn crematorium today to see Brother John McLardie, the Treasurer of Glasgow Southside Orange & Purple District, off on his final journey.
I counted just short of 40 brothers and sisters following the cortege along with three flautists from the Cambuslang Britannia band, accompanied by the County Grand Master.
His coffin was covered by the Union Flag and the Rev Peter Davidge paid him a fulsome tribute.
The flowers which adorned the dais as were provided by lodges and individuals within the district and provided a lovely touch - thanks to Joyce for arranging that.
The hymn was “Will Your Anchor Hold” - a favourite of his, befitting an old member of the 3rd Company of the Glasgow Battalion of the Boys Brigade.
Today, surrounded by family, friends, work colleagues, neighbours and members of the Orange Order, he took his leave of this life.
His humour, intelligence and wise advice will be long remembered by all who knew him.
The reading was from the Book of Revelation, Chapter 21, reading from verse 1 to verse 7.
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
mdingwall
Administrator
https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/sir-samuel-curran-19121998-dl-ma-phd-dsc-lld-scd-frs-155716
Sir Samuel Curran
[died Glasgow 15 February 1998]
In the spring of 1912, Sarah Carson Crowe, Samuel Curran’s mother, went to Ballymena, her home town, a few weeks before the birth of her second son – perhaps so that he could be born an Ulster-Scot. Shortly afterwards she returned to her husband and family in Wishaw.
The Currans’ radar equipment would also be used by all Bomber Command aircraft and Coastal Command.
The proximity fuse would prove crucial in the destruction of over 90% of the German V-1 rockets.
Joan Curran was credited with having ‘the scientific equivalent of gardening green fingers’. One of her innovations was the scattering of strips of tin foil in the air disrupting enemy radar. In June 1944 the RAF dropped huge quantities of tin foil over the English Channel simulating an invasion force of ships heading towards the Pas de Calais, helping to convince the Germans to concentrate forces there rather in Normandy.
In 1944, Samuel Curran went to work on the Manhattan Project (the codename for the US-led development of the atomic bomb) at the Radiation Laboratory in Berkley, California, where his specialism was the separation of isotopes of uranium.
In his spare time, he invented the scintillation counter, a device which is still used in laboratories around the world for measuring radioactive activity.
Reflecting on his role in the creation of the atomic bomb, Curran admitted to Tam Dalyell, the long-serving Scottish Labour MP, that he did not ‘agonise’ as much as some of his colleagues (and here he probably had Sir James Chadwick, who also worked on the separation of isotopes of uranium, in mind) but he did wonder about ‘where the ultimate results would lead’.
In the early 1990s, Curran told Sir Tom Devine, Scotland’s pre-eminent historian, that the Allies were in the dark about how far advanced the Nazis were in developing their own bomb but it was vital that the Allies built their bomb before the Nazis did.
Curran deplored the horrendous loss of life at Hiroshima and Nagasaki but maintained the dropping of the bombs was essential to bring the war in the Far East to a close.
After the war, Curran returned to the UK to work at the University of Glasgow despite being offered a post at the University of California.
Between 1955 and 1958 he worked on the development of the British hydrogen bomb at the Atomic Energy Research Establishment, the main centre for nuclear power research in the UK, and then became chief scientist of the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston for a year.
In 1959 Curran became the principal of the Royal College of Science and Technology, a prestigious institution which produced many of the great engineers and scientists of the 19th and first half of the 20th century. He steered the institution through to full university status as the University of Strathclyde in 1964.
Curran was appointed the university’s first principal and vice-chancellor.
Strathclyde was the first new university in Scotland for almost 400 years and the first technological university in the UK.
Curran was passionate about the importance of technology.
He blamed much of the industrial and manufacturing decay of the UK on the failure of government and the universities to appreciate the importance of technological education. He stressed the importance of co-operation with industry and was a pioneer in the appointment of top industrialists as visiting professors.
At the Labour Party Conference of 1963 Harold Wilson, the new party leader, spoke his party’s plans to harness a ‘scientific revolution’ to modernise British industry and drive economic progress: ‘the Britain that is going to be forged in the white heat of this revolution will be no place for restrictive practices or for outdated methods on either side of industry’.
The influence of Sam Curran may be readily discerned in this.
As Prime Minister, Wilson told Tam Dalyell: ‘Sam is one of the people in higher education whose good opinion of our policy I really covet’. Dalyell seems to have acted as a conduit between Curran and Wilson.
Curran served on a wide range of governmental bodies relating to science and technology.
He was responsible for the creation of Engineering Laboratory in East Kilbride whose facilities were available to all the Scottish universities. Access was later extended to QUB, a development perhaps attributable his Ulster birth.
As Honorary President of the Scottish Polish Cultural Association, he forged an extremely successful working relationship between Strathclyde and the technical University of Łódź. This was even more remarkable because it was achieved during the Cold War when Poland was still part of the Soviet bloc.
Following the birth of their handicapped daughter, the Currans established the Scottish Society for the Parents of Mentally Handicapped Children (now known as Enable Scotland). He served as its president from 1964 to 1991.
According to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, two things particularly irked Curran: the very low salaries paid to scientists by comparison with businessmen and the state’s failure to recognise how science and technology had contributed to winning the Second World War.
Sir Samuel Curran died on 15 February 1998. Tom Devine described him as ‘a man of gravitas and intellect’ but without ‘pomposity or side’. Tam Dalyell regarded him as ‘one of the great Scots of the 20th century - in the tradition of the heroes of the 18th-century Scottish Enlightenment’. No one would seriously quibble with either assessment.
Sir Samuel Curran
[died Glasgow 15 February 1998]
In the spring of 1912, Sarah Carson Crowe, Samuel Curran’s mother, went to Ballymena, her home town, a few weeks before the birth of her second son – perhaps so that he could be born an Ulster-Scot. Shortly afterwards she returned to her husband and family in Wishaw.
He studied mathematics and physics at Glasgow University before earning his PhD from Cambridge.
At Cambridge’s Cavendish Laboratory Ernest Rutherford (‘the father of nuclear physics’ under whose direction John Cockcroft and the Methody-educated Ernest Walton split the atom) was his head of department and he worked closely with C.T.R. Wilson, who won the Nobel prize for physics in 1927 and inventor of the cloud chamber (which was widely used in the study of radioactivity, X rays and other nuclear phenomena).
During the Second World War, he joined the Royal Aircraft Establishment along with his wife, fellow physicist Joan Curran (née Strothers), to work on the development of radar and the proximity fuse.The Currans’ radar equipment would also be used by all Bomber Command aircraft and Coastal Command.
The proximity fuse would prove crucial in the destruction of over 90% of the German V-1 rockets.
Joan Curran was credited with having ‘the scientific equivalent of gardening green fingers’. One of her innovations was the scattering of strips of tin foil in the air disrupting enemy radar. In June 1944 the RAF dropped huge quantities of tin foil over the English Channel simulating an invasion force of ships heading towards the Pas de Calais, helping to convince the Germans to concentrate forces there rather in Normandy.
In 1944, Samuel Curran went to work on the Manhattan Project (the codename for the US-led development of the atomic bomb) at the Radiation Laboratory in Berkley, California, where his specialism was the separation of isotopes of uranium.
In his spare time, he invented the scintillation counter, a device which is still used in laboratories around the world for measuring radioactive activity.
Reflecting on his role in the creation of the atomic bomb, Curran admitted to Tam Dalyell, the long-serving Scottish Labour MP, that he did not ‘agonise’ as much as some of his colleagues (and here he probably had Sir James Chadwick, who also worked on the separation of isotopes of uranium, in mind) but he did wonder about ‘where the ultimate results would lead’.
In the early 1990s, Curran told Sir Tom Devine, Scotland’s pre-eminent historian, that the Allies were in the dark about how far advanced the Nazis were in developing their own bomb but it was vital that the Allies built their bomb before the Nazis did.
Curran deplored the horrendous loss of life at Hiroshima and Nagasaki but maintained the dropping of the bombs was essential to bring the war in the Far East to a close.
After the war, Curran returned to the UK to work at the University of Glasgow despite being offered a post at the University of California.
Between 1955 and 1958 he worked on the development of the British hydrogen bomb at the Atomic Energy Research Establishment, the main centre for nuclear power research in the UK, and then became chief scientist of the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston for a year.
In 1959 Curran became the principal of the Royal College of Science and Technology, a prestigious institution which produced many of the great engineers and scientists of the 19th and first half of the 20th century. He steered the institution through to full university status as the University of Strathclyde in 1964.
Curran was appointed the university’s first principal and vice-chancellor.
Strathclyde was the first new university in Scotland for almost 400 years and the first technological university in the UK.
Curran was passionate about the importance of technology.
He blamed much of the industrial and manufacturing decay of the UK on the failure of government and the universities to appreciate the importance of technological education. He stressed the importance of co-operation with industry and was a pioneer in the appointment of top industrialists as visiting professors.
At the Labour Party Conference of 1963 Harold Wilson, the new party leader, spoke his party’s plans to harness a ‘scientific revolution’ to modernise British industry and drive economic progress: ‘the Britain that is going to be forged in the white heat of this revolution will be no place for restrictive practices or for outdated methods on either side of industry’.
The influence of Sam Curran may be readily discerned in this.
As Prime Minister, Wilson told Tam Dalyell: ‘Sam is one of the people in higher education whose good opinion of our policy I really covet’. Dalyell seems to have acted as a conduit between Curran and Wilson.
Curran served on a wide range of governmental bodies relating to science and technology.
He was responsible for the creation of Engineering Laboratory in East Kilbride whose facilities were available to all the Scottish universities. Access was later extended to QUB, a development perhaps attributable his Ulster birth.
As Honorary President of the Scottish Polish Cultural Association, he forged an extremely successful working relationship between Strathclyde and the technical University of Łódź. This was even more remarkable because it was achieved during the Cold War when Poland was still part of the Soviet bloc.
Following the birth of their handicapped daughter, the Currans established the Scottish Society for the Parents of Mentally Handicapped Children (now known as Enable Scotland). He served as its president from 1964 to 1991.
According to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, two things particularly irked Curran: the very low salaries paid to scientists by comparison with businessmen and the state’s failure to recognise how science and technology had contributed to winning the Second World War.
Sir Samuel Curran died on 15 February 1998. Tom Devine described him as ‘a man of gravitas and intellect’ but without ‘pomposity or side’. Tam Dalyell regarded him as ‘one of the great Scots of the 20th century - in the tradition of the heroes of the 18th-century Scottish Enlightenment’. No one would seriously quibble with either assessment.
DovRob
Well-Known Member
A sad time of the demonisation of a charitable organisation , by those who shout for freedom, yet wish to curtail anyone else the same rights.
Scotland is quickly being led down a dark route, where the rights fought for by our ancestors will be curtailed by those who are poisoning the very fabric of this country with their lies and demands for the only right is their right.
mdingwall
Administrator
Quincy Dougan speaking tour of Scotland.
Thursday April 4th evening 7.30pm Dumbarton - The B-Men:
Friday 5th afternoon 4.30pm Bellshill, The Truth about South Armagh
Friday April 5th evening 730pm Bellshill, Orangeism- past, present and future
Saturday April 6th Morning 11.30pm Pollockshaws, Orangeism - past, present and future.
Subjects covered are the B-Men, the story of South Armagh, and 'Orangeism'- its birth, evolution and future...
All friends very welcome
Thursday April 4th evening 7.30pm Dumbarton - The B-Men:
Friday 5th afternoon 4.30pm Bellshill, The Truth about South Armagh
Friday April 5th evening 730pm Bellshill, Orangeism- past, present and future
Saturday April 6th Morning 11.30pm Pollockshaws, Orangeism - past, present and future.
Subjects covered are the B-Men, the story of South Armagh, and 'Orangeism'- its birth, evolution and future...
All friends very welcome
mdingwall
Administrator
'He's my King' - Why a Monaghan village still loves the British monarchy
The Stewart family home might be in County Monaghan but they still identify as British - and act accordingly.
www.newstalk.com
AlbertaBlue
Well-Known Member
Was Dist 49 formally on Devon St?
