Filth furlough their staff

macjohn212 said:
No shame fc ....
The government should not be propping up multimillionaire football clubs ....
They are proud to be British when it suits them...
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Indeed, heard that Norwhich , Newcastle have done the same whilst paying players thousands a week, out of order if you ask me
 
Most teams will do this.
It will help protect their transfer budget for when the window opens.
Its a smart move taking advantage of a scheme the government put in place.
We should be doing the same
 
I would guess all non essential businesses will do this. Not just football clubs, buy everything non health/ food related.

In Spain everything has been closed. Everyone is on reduced wages or government pay.

It a crazy time!

We've been living under martial law for the best part of 3 weeks.
 
JD1872 said:
Really hope we don‘t do the same for non playing staff, it is immoral considering what the players are getting
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Players should be taking a cut to pay for the staff and also ensure the club is in financially ok footing. It’s not as if there are any other places in the world they can go and earn mega bucks. They will still be taking a good wage for not having any job.
 
You really can’t mark their necks with a blowtorch ! Refused to use the work British the other week and in December their mongo fans unfurled a banner basically saying F off Tories but now they want a hand out they really are pathetic ! Cash rich my arse
 
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Tories aren`t welcome but their money certainly is Hate the Crown but love the Half Crown
 
HongKongTam said:
They pay tax. They're entitled to it whether we like it or not.

Drama on here at times
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It's okay for a company to furlough workers when it just claimed a few weeks back that it has £33,000,000 in the bank?

It's okay to furlough minimum wage workers when the CEO of the company will walk away with £6,000,000 in wages and bonus money?

Really?????
 
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bloodandfire said:
CELTIC have confirmed plans to put a number of non-playing staff members on furlough.
But Hoops chiefs have vowed to ensure all workers affected receive 100 per cent of their wages.
Celtic today started the process of using the UK government's job retention scheme across the club.
SunSport understands a number of youth academy coaches will be among those on furlough for the next few months.
With no return to football on the horizon anytime soon, other employees in various departments will also be placed on the scheme.
Those impacted will be unable to do any work for the club - with the situation likely to be reviewed in June.
The UK government covers 80 per cent of wages up to £2500 per month - and Celtic will pay the rest for anyone earning more.
Parkhead officials have also promised staff that all other conditions and benefits will be honoured during this period.
A Celtic spokesperson said: “Like many organisations, due to the unprecedented challenges currently being faced, Celtic will be using the government job retention scheme available, in relation to a number of colleagues.
"At this time, Celtic will ensure that each colleague on this scheme will receive 100 per cent salary, with all other conditions and benefits remaining unchanged.
"Other colleagues will continue to work as normal to cover the club’s ongoing operational requirements.
"Celtic would like to sincerely thank each and every member of staff for all their continued efforts and their tremendous support during such a difficult time for everyone."



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Football clubs who have playing staff earnings tens or even hundreds of thousands per week should be seeking to agree pay cuts with playing staff to cover the wages rather than relying on government funds to, in effect, subsidise footballers inordinate wage sums.

This applies to any club. Rangers, Tottenham or Celtic.

It is completely unethical.
 
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There may be a sting in the tail here. The full details of this scheme are still being worked out. We may find that employers/companies who apply for this assistance may be asked what cash reserves they have and to use such cash to pay wages etc. and will be eligible for help at a point when the cash reserves can no longer sustain the wage bill. This is not an anti-Celtic issue. What Spurs, Newcastle and Norwich have done is equally despicable bearing in mind the £120M they have received from Sky, BT and the BBC.
 
nasalsinatra said:
There may be a sting in the tail here. The full details of this scheme are still being worked out. We may find that employers/companies who apply for this assistance may be asked what cash reserves they have and to use such cash to pay wages etc. and will be eligible for help at a point when the cash reserves can no longer sustain the wage bill. This is not an anti-Celtic issue. What Spurs, Newcastle and Norwich have done is equally despicable bearing in mind the £120M they have received from Sky, BT and the BBC.
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Exactly this. Surely these clubs are misunderstanding something here (hmmm)? The scheme is for companies which would collapse otherwise.

It's pure abuse of the system from those clubs.
 
DeeCeeTee said:
Rangers will do the same. The fact that paying staff are still getting 100% of their wages is a complete farce, and if any of them were in any way decent, tey would be offering up a pay cut to cover the costs of every day staff, and I include any Rangers player in that.
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The players and management should offer to take a small cut.
20% would cover most non-first team staff I'd think.

We should not be taking money off the government.

The mentally challenged behaviour is disgusting given the situation amd I'll feel the same if Rangers do it.
 
Reading up on furloughing online. There is no legal requirement that your employer will take you back on when the economy is moving again. Football clubs must do better for the non-playing staff. Can’t pay players and coaches tens of thousands and let the workers struggle.
 
The mankie fans just love to tell us how cash rich they are, £30m in the bank.
A club with a £60m wage bill, no income and that £30m in the bank will be gone in six months if this continues, so unless their players take big wage cuts they are on their arses in six months time.
 
I have a feeling that if any club ask the players to take a wage cut then they are in breach of contract and as such the players are free to leave . This is why no club is asking that yet
 
TommyC said:
Like others have said, this should be used when the business in question can literally not afford to pay their staff and there would otherwise be threat of redundancies. So is this the case here then? Or have they just jumped all over a handout from their much hated United Kingdom?
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I don’t think that’s the case re affordability. It’s where employees are not essential and are to stay at home
 
Coops2016 said:
Hold on a minute all that is happening here is clubs with multi millions of reserves are asking the UK government for a bail out . Surely it should be means tested. If we do this then that’s fine as we are not quick to say how rich we are etc .

This money could be used elsewhere that needs it most

I think it’s an outrage and not just because it’s Celtic
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It should be. I already made the point there should be a turnover threshold to qualify.
 
Watty1979 said:
I'm amazed that football clubs are getting away with doing this to their staff while continuing to pay their millionaire footballers in full.

Surely this is not how the scheme is intended to work?
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It isn't but the government fucked it by not setting a turnover threshold to stop hypocrisy like this
 
Cash rich apparently. Makes you wonder how they can have the brass neck to do this. I'm a "furlough employee" since last Tuesday. My company doesn't have 33 million in the bank mind you. Sickening reading.
 
If you applied for unemployment benefits and told them you have £100.000 in the bank they'd tell you to eff off.

When did the 'War Chest' morph into a 'Biscuit Tin'?
 
No doubt Glasgow's rich vein of Socialists, Trotskyists, Tommy Sheridan types, Ill Phil, simple crofters and committed left wingers of the SNP and gallus, celtc-minded men of the people, will be up in arms that a club that's the darling of the Left, and who have only recently bragged they have £33,000,000 in the bank are abusing a scheme devised to help poor workers avoid the hardships of the present crisis to protect their millionaire fitba players, coaches and directors.
 
While I completely disagree with what they will be doing, making the players take a pay cut may not actually be the answer.

if that happens it is likely the taxpayer could lose out on more cash given the players will all be higher rate tax payers.

I know the Celtic players won’t be on the same as Kane et al at Spurs, but if the players were to copy Barca and take a 70% wage cut to pay for the staff etc I would imagine the government would lose far more income than they would need to pay out for furloughing the staff at the club.
 
Walters80 said:
It's okay for a company to furlough workers when it just claimed a few weeks back that it has £33,000,000 in the bank?

It's okay to furlough minimum wage workers when the CEO of the company will walk away with £6,000,000 in wages and bonus money?

Really?????
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There will be plenty companies in a similar situation.
 
British taxpayers propping up a club who,s supporters support a independent Scotland and a lot of them think they are Irish;-)
oh..I thought they were cash rich ?
 
Like Spurs, the story is they continue to pay their first team squad players like broon £120000 a month but use this Scheme for us to pay the rest of their staff £2500 a month. Even if we do similar, the first team players should be looked at first, not last. (Although good point above about government missing out on high earners tax.)
 
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Walters80 said:
It's okay for a company to furlough workers when it just claimed a few weeks back that it has £33,000,000 in the bank?

It's okay to furlough minimum wage workers when the CEO of the company will walk away with £6,000,000 in wages and bonus money?

Really?????
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Legally? Yes. When the furlough scheme was announced there were no restrictions put in place as to who could apply for it. That may change though as its clear certain businesses are taking the piss with it.
 
dentalbear said:
While I completely disagree with what they will be doing, making the players take a pay cut may not actually be the answer.

if that happens it is likely the taxpayer could lose out on more cash given the players will all be higher rate tax payers.

I know the Celtic players won’t be on the same as Kane et al at Spurs, but if the players were to copy Barca and take a 70% wage cut to pay for the staff etc I would imagine the government would lose far more income than they would need to pay out for furloughing the staff at the club.
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i would think a better first step (that most people would appreciate) would be for the "stars" to take a pay cut, but that money instead pays the "lesser" employees.

So for Spurs each player takes a £10k a week pay cut but that money actually gets diverted to the staff who would be furloughed otherwise. People still get paid what they should, and players look semi-decent by having a pay-cut.

To be honest I cannot understand why players in the UK have not done this voluntarily already? The publicity and "brand awareness" generated by a footballer coming out and voluntarily saying I will take a 10/20/30% pay cut so the staff still get paid would be worth so much more that the money they lose - and beyond the cynicism of it all its just the decent thing to do!
 
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I was unfortunate to see Sutton’s mug on BBC news this morning. He was actually saying it was outrageous that clubs are asking for furlough whilst players are sitting on massive wages whilst doing nothing. I actually agree with him. Strange how he isn’t spouting this in the papers though as he usually would, yet he’s in the papers getting stuck into Rangers for looking like we are going to be asking for season ticket sales, ignoring the fact that Celtic have already asked for theirs.
 
Sorry Celtic, but if you cant pay your staff then its an admin event and a juicy 10 point deduction.

You keep telling us rules are rules.....
 
dentalbear said:
While I completely disagree with what they will be doing, making the players take a pay cut may not actually be the answer.

if that happens it is likely the taxpayer could lose out on more cash given the players will all be higher rate tax payers.

I know the Celtic players won’t be on the same as Kane et al at Spurs, but if the players were to copy Barca and take a 70% wage cut to pay for the staff etc I would imagine the government would lose far more income than they would need to pay out for furloughing the staff at the club.
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They could do it in house and a small players wage reduction would easily cover non playing staff wages.
 
We are over a week into the lockdown so I'm guessing that if Rangers were using the scheme then we'd know by now.
It would kill those Lawwell fellating media lapdogs if we chose not to do it.
 
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