Flanagan at left back. Enough is enough

tambourineman

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Nope. Since that happened Gerrard has publicly said that Wallace's issue with the club is separate from him being available to play. Gerrard backed him by including him in match squads and bringing him on in the league as well.



Did you watch Flanagan tonight, or in any other game for that matter?



As above...did you see Flanagan tonight?
Indeed I did see him tonight and he had a nightmare. He has also had a couple of excellent games and a few ok/indifferent games. I think he is prone to rash challenges especially on players, on or near the touchline with their back to goal.

I also saw Wallace in a lot of games. He simply cannot tackle. He sticks a foot out and and the opponent goes past him. That is not tackling. I really have no idea if he is currently better than Flanagan. What I do know is that neither does anyone else on here.

I respect those who think he should be played ahead of Flanagan. Where I take issue is those who tell us with absolute certainty that Wallace would be better, or Halliday would be better.

If either had played and we had lost this board would be swamped, SWAMPED, with people telling us Flanagan should have played.
 
Indeed I did see him tonight and he had a nightmare. He has also had a couple of excellent games and a few ok/indifferent games. I think he is prone to rash challenges especially on players, on or near the touchline with their back to goal.

I also saw Wallace in a lot of games. He simply cannot tackle. He sticks a foot out and and the opponent goes past him. That is not tackling. I really have no idea if he is currently better than Flanagan. What I do know is that neither does anyone else on here.

I respect those who think he should be played ahead of Flanagan. Where I take issue is those who tell us with absolute certainty that Wallace would be better, or Halliday would be better.

If either had played and we had lost this board would be swamped, SWAMPED, with people telling us Flanagan should have played.
Hindsight is wonderful though

You can work with what you see and thats a couple of games now hes looked really suspect. And i actually like him
 

dh1963

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It's a strange one.

Flanagan was left back for a number of games at the start of the season and we hardly conceded a goal.
He was excellent at left back in the wins at Ibrox against Rapid Vienna and Hearts.

But since then, he has been almost Lee Hodson bad.
 

dt17

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Re: Declan John, I wish we'd kept him as well but apparently he wanted to move back to Wales and the club were happy enough for him to go.
 
Defensively we are weak in both full back areas....stevie wonder can see that.... flanagan is never a left back and if tav isnt offering anything going forward, as he hasnt in last 2 months, then hes an empty shirt....and as good as mcgregor is and im a big fan, would like to him coming for crosses more and commanding his 6 yrd box i think thats another weak area at the back for us...
 

Chester Perry

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He was part of a collective unit that was simply awful, yes he contributed to that but the reality is he’s a right back at left back and his awkwardness is now showing.

Add that to Katic looking like bambi on ice, Goldson in a tailspin and Tavernier playing some of the worst football since he’s been here and it’s a real headache for Gerrard.

Only 5/6 games ago this defence was rock solid, Tavernier was being mentioned for international call ups, Goldson for a big money move and Flannigan was thundering into tackles and getting the crowd right up. Now, nothing, no reaction after 4 games on the spin where they’ve been awful.

We’ve two captains in there, none look like leaders at present, we only look solid when Halliday is at left back.

As for Worrall, he doesn’t escape criticism either as he’s been part of the unit playing so badly but fortunately for him, he avoided last nights debacle but I’d say he’s far more assured than Katic and will be straight back in.

Over to Stevie to sort this mess out, the answer maybe sitting on the bench with big McAuley
 

Graemelins

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It's a strange one.

Flanagan was left back for a number of games at the start of the season and we hardly conceded a goal.
He was excellent at left back in the wins at Ibrox against Rapid Vienna and Hearts.

But since then, he has been almost Lee Hodson bad.
I think teams have had a chance to watch him play now and figured out that his lack of pace can be exploited. Earlier in the season he was an unknown quantity really.
 

Vader

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I think teams have had a chance to watch him play now and figured out that his lack of pace can be exploited. Earlier in the season he was an unknown quantity really.
SPFL teams are also now sitting in against us because we struggle to break them down. They are delighted when Flanagan starts because he offers the square root of nothing going forward. Halliday at least gets himself forward and is willing to shoot from distance.
 

Ross_

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Sadly he or Halliday are the only options we have at the moment - neither are ideal as neither are left backs.

Sooner Barasic is back and can get a few games under his belt the better.
 

CM13

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He’s a back up for the full back position. He replaces lee hodson who he is a far better player than. Tav & Barasic are first choice there’s nothing we can do if barasic is injured.

The way some are going on is if Halliday has never put a foot wrong at left back. After some of his performances last season these threads would of had “Halliday at left back enough is enough” quicker borna is back the better.
 
Defensively we are weak in both full back areas....stevie wonder can see that.... flanagan is never a left back and if tav isnt offering anything going forward, as he hasnt in last 2 months, then hes an empty shirt....and as good as mcgregor is and im a big fan, would like to him coming for crosses more and commanding his 6 yrd box i think thats another weak area at the back for us...

Agree partly with your first points but I’m
no having the McGregor part how many times has he single handily kept us in games this season, I wasn’t keen on having him back but no way can you be critical of him because he’s been outstanding.
 

dt17

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He was part of a collective unit that was simply awful, yes he contributed to that but the reality is he’s a right back at left back and his awkwardness is now showing.

Add that to Katic looking like bambi on ice, Goldson in a tailspin and Tavernier playing some of the worst football since he’s been here and it’s a real headache for Gerrard.

Only 5/6 games ago this defence was rock solid, Tavernier was being mentioned for international call ups, Goldson for a big money move and Flannigan was thundering into tackles and getting the crowd right up. Now, nothing, no reaction after 4 games on the spin where they’ve been awful.

We’ve two captains in there, none look like leaders at present, we only look solid when Halliday is at left back.

As for Worrall, he doesn’t escape criticism either as he’s been part of the unit playing so badly but fortunately for him, he avoided last nights debacle but I’d say he’s far more assured than Katic and will be straight back in.

Over to Stevie to sort this mess out, the answer maybe sitting on the bench with big McAuley
This is the issue.

Goldson and Katic were forming a brilliant partnership then Gerrard dropped Katic out of the blue for no reason. Since then we've been chopping and changing which clearly doesn't work.

Katic doesn't deserve to be dropped again considering the bomb scare that Goldson had. Worrall has been dug shite in recent weeks as well.

It seems that Katic is the easy one to drop and he's playing like he knows it as well.
 

BrownBrogues

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I came on to start this thread. I know he is your Mate Stevie but he has cost us 3 Points against Killie selling their equaliser and last night was atrocious, they deliberately exploited that weakness and Halliday should have been on at half time 3-2. Please drop him before he cost us success and you your job.
 
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