Furious Rangers hit out over Celtic fan allocation as Ibrox side claim Council's decision 'doesn't make sense'

pelem

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Dirty lying Scumbags


How will the sleazy glesga district fiddler luvvin employees manage to get in if like us they only have 8,500 fiddlers in paul gadds fun house.


They are ALL in it together, and this is gonnae continue with no remorse to us or the rest of scotia fitbaw.
 

TheDerryend

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If the board were in negotiations with GCC they will have been aware of these numbers. If they were then no need to be raging. If they have been side swiped then come out and say so and hold GCC to account. Someone is lying. If its GCC then get it out into the press if not then our board are lying to the fans and I for one think thats quite serious
What press do Rangers get it out to? The one that joined in the savaging of the support.

The press will only do one thing, ridicule us.
 

Partickger

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Put on a couple of Rangers 'A' vs Rangers 'B' friendlies to use up our restricted games. A game is a game, shouldnt matter who the opposition is. Lets see GCC squirm out of that one.
Nothing to squirm out of, it’s made up bullshit driven by bigotry and hatred.
 

pelem

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A glesga district cooncil official says that due to damage in George Sq by their fans they will not be making money that should have gone into cooncil funds.
 

Wilkinsvolley

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If that level is safe in one part of Glasgow on that day, it’s safe at Ibrox. What’s gone on previous to that day has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 

nemessis

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The excuse that ithey have given you just couldn't make up, its a load of shit and should be exposed for what it really is, and that is called discrimination.
They can call it what they want the bottom line is they are discriminating and deflecting to try and cover it up.
 

tazzabear

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I've never voted snp, but.... to say you can't be a rangers fan if you vote a certain way is discrimination and here's one for you.. anyone who discriminates against his fellow fans "IS NOT A RANGERS FAN"
Explain your rationale here then.
You support a club but vote for a person/group/party that actively act against us.
Dornan, Humza, Aitken, Mason, McSwinney?
I genuinely struggle with the concept that you can do both.
 

Ruben Sosa

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If you were to tell anyone outside Scotland that us and them are both playing home friendlies on Saturday, and GCC are allowing one club to have more than double the amount of fans in attendance than the other, I don't think many would believe you.

It simply has to be called out by Rangers, the excuse they've come up with is laughable.
 

bad boy boogie

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Rangers were left seething after Glasgow council chiefs green-lighted Celtic’s request to welcome in 18,500 fans for their Saturday friendly – 10,000 more than Steven Gerrard’s champions have been allowed to host across the city just two hours later.

But local authority chiefs insist they are only following safety guidelines after ordering Gers to leave Ibrox more than three-quarters empty for their clash with Brighton while at the same time giving Celtic the thumbs up to stage the biggest crowd in Scotland since the start of the pandemic.

Gerrard’s squad are gearing up for a glamour double header against Graham Potter’s Premier League outfit on Saturday, with Carlo Ancelotti’s Real Madrid then visiting Govan the following day.

Gers announced earlier this week they would use the tune-up clashes to ramp up their preparations for the return to full houses.

The Brighton game - which kicks-off at 5.30pm - will be staged in front of 8,500 fans, with 12,500 lucky ballot winners then set to pile through the turnstiles for Sunday’s showdown with the Galacticos.

Rangers plan to increase the capacity further to 17,000 for their first league game of the new season against Livingston on July 31 before hopefully throwing the gates open and staging a 51,000 sell-out for their Champions League clash with Malmo or Helsinki on August 10 - they day after Scotland’s covid restrictions are due to be lifted.

But the news the Hoops will run out to a crowd of 18,500 fans for their 3pm warm-up match with West Ham on Saturday has left both Ibrox chiefs and fans alike stunned.

A well-placed Ibrox source told Record Sport : “The board are not happy about this at all.

“They simply cannot understand why Glasgow City Council are only allowing them to welcome in 8,500 fans to Ibrox when there will be double that at Parkhead for a game kicking-off two hours before. It just doesn’t make sense.”

However, council bosses say the discrepancy is down to the fact a graduated build-up for large scale events has been agreed with the Scotland’s Safety Advisory Group, which regulates attendances.

As Celtic hosted 9,000 fans for Tuesday’s European qualifier with Midtjylland, they can now increase the capacity for the Hammers showdown.

But because Rangers’ clash with Brighton is the first since Scotland moved to Level Zero conditions on Monday, they are only allowed to make use of around 50 per cent of Ibrox’s current 17,000 Covid-safety crowd limit - with the proportion jumping to 75 and then 100 per cent for the matches against Real and Livingston.

A spokesman for Glasgow City Council explained: “We really want to see events, including matches, back as close to normal as the regulations allow. It’s good for the economy and frankly it’s just good for people to be able to do the things they love doing.

“But in doing it safely, we’re stepping up how many people can be in stadiums match by match, starting at 50% of safe capacity, then 75%, then 100%. We think this gives the right balance and allows Glasgow’s clubs to start moving towards normality.”

While Rangers are upset by the approach, Celtic bosses have welcomed the decision which will see Parkhead beat the country’s previous pandemic crowd record of 16,500 for the British & Irish Lions rugby clash at Murrayfield last month.
Use this bullshit to bury and destroy them on the park again.
 

TheDerryend

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It will be reported if Rangers have proof. Not all press is controlled by snp
We have a couple of guys who will be up against a highly paid govt pr dept, actually paid for out of taxpayers money, many Rangers fans tax money.

I hope your right, but if this turns into a full blown row, I can just see the stories in the papers of uncaring and selfish Rangers.

The only way it will stop is at the ballot box, but that looks nowhere in sight any time soon.

Remember our players were attacked on the pitch and it was the club who were ridiculed as bad losers. That's what we're up against and recently they've upped the ante.
 

Gibraltar Loyal

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We have a couple of guys who will be up against a highly paid govt pr dept, actually paid for out of taxpayers money, many Rangers fans tax money.

I hope your right, but if this turns into a full blown row, I can just see the stories in the papers of uncaring and selfish Rangers.

The only way it will stop is at the ballot box, but that looks nowhere in sight any time soon.

Remember our players were attacked on the pitch and it was the club who were ridiculed as bad losers. That's what we're up against and recently they've upped the ante.
I agree. Thats why Rangers need be on the front foot
 

blue genes

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If the different figures/calculations don't stand up to scrutiny & can be easily disproved we should publicise it, hold a press conference with this the only topic, put a video out on the website, highlight the hypocrisy - you get the drift.

The absolute last thing we should be doing is taking it lying down.
 

GazzaG

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Paying for years of all talk and no action. Maybe if the Rangers board had done more regarding fighting back they wouldn’t find themselves in this position. It’s why the council treat them the way they do.
As I said in the other thread, it's not the boards fault these cretins are in power.

Need someone to blame? Look no further than our "supporters" who watched the snp target our club from March 6th but still went out and voted for them in May!
 

ald

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So the time lines and attendances allowed figures are:

17 July: Rangers v Arsenal - 2,000; Celtic v Preston - 2,000

20 July: Celtic v Midtjylland - 9,000.

24 July: Rangers v Brighton - 8,500 (why the 500 difference incidentally between this and their 9,000?); Celtic v West Ham - 18,500.

25 July: Rangers v Real Madrid - 12,750 (now we have a 5,750 difference - why?).

31 July: Rangers v Livingston - 17,000 (referred to as Rangers’ “COVID safety crowd limit” - is this an actual thing? If so, what is the criteria for determining it? If it is based on capacity of Ibrox and Parkhead then the numbers still don’t make sense. Nor does it make sense if you aren’t in any event maximising social distancing by opening all sections of the stadiums. And that is before you get into the fact that, as someone pointed out the other day, Ibrox is effectively compartmentalised into 12 or so different parts (I can’t quite recall what the number was but it was about 12 I think).

Celtic are “encouraged by the indicative figure of around 24,500 for the subsequent home game”. Is that them v Dundee on 7 August? Or a European game on 3/4 August (when we are away to Malmö / Helsinki)? If they are getting it for the European game, what are they then going to get for Dundee? Another increase? Why is there no mention of a Celtic “COVID safety crowd limit” and, if there is one, what is it and why does it differ from ours?

9 August: restrictions scheduled to lift.

10 August: Rangers v Malmö / Helsinki - full house expected.

Glasgow City Council’s statement just does not stand up to scrutiny, even against their own “explanation”. We both started at 2,000 fans. Two games later we are at 12,750 and they are at 18,500. Three games later we are at 17,000 and they are at 24,500.

I don’t think a “seethe” from Rangers is quite good enough here. The club should be demanding answers here and I’m sure they are. Whilst I understand why the club generally prefer to try to be diplomatic and do things behind close doors rather than have everything played out bitterly and in public, there are times when blatant double standards need to be laid bare and publicly called out. This feels like one of them.

How often do we hear about discrimination in Scotland, particularly the west coast of Scotland? Yet this sort of thing plays itself out like this. And, worse still, it plays itself out and nobody truly calls it out. We rant and rave on FF and the like and Rangers sources talk of “seething” but that’s it. That’s the extent of our voice. If the boot was on the other foot then this would be playing out in a very different way. James Dornan and co would be all over it.

And as an aside, the silence from Club 1872, the “fans’ group”, is deafening.
 
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Turrabear

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We’ve went beyond statements now that just highlight inconsistencies. It’s now time to start making statements that spell out, clearly, why this is happening.
‘We understand that there are a number of Celtic supporting employees in GCC, and we at RFC can only conclude that this decision is entirely down to the institutional bigotry within GCC.’
The club would never in a million years come out with a statement like that mate.its time to stop trying to work with people who hate us with every fibre of their being.
 

AYEBrox

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They know their in for another shite season so this is just another GIRUY, that’s us won the first Glasgow derby of the year pish, playing to the goon gallery.
The only number that counts at the end of the season is the number of points we are ahead of them hopefully we’ll improve on last seasons record gap.
 

two2tango

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Call it out for what it is anti Protestant bigotry and anti British discrimination

that is what it is

go all guns blazing

this is a restriction of trade this placing our club at a finicial disadvantage

this is intentional

the snp have a long record of discrimination against the club

even get your government involved
 

Coopers left foot.

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I've never voted snp, but.... to say you can't be a rangers fan if you vote a certain way is discrimination and here's one for you.. anyone who discriminates against his fellow fans "IS NOT A RANGERS FAN"
Voting a certain way is voting, Labour, Lib dems or Tories. Not the seps, a party that hates every inch of you because of the football team you support.
And any halfwit voting for them, deserves everything they reap. The snp don't want independence, they just want the gullibles topping their pension up.
 

dh1963

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The complete disregard for any semblance of logic or equality in that council explanation tells you all you need to know about the SNP run council.

Basically just making up shite and knowing they can do what they like with nobody able or willing to fight them.

Rangers should sell 17000 tickets for Sunday now and tell them to try stopping us.
 

Tagsbear

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Its a reference to the board telling us in May 2021 they were talking legal action and they haven’t. Here we are in July 2021, more nonsense from GCC, we’re always in an unjust place every season on one issue or another and the board do %^*& all about it. I’m sure they’ll be more before the year is out. It’s all talk and no action every single year.

How do you know they haven't?
 

Northhiglander

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The complete disregard for any semblance of logic or equality in that council explanation tells you all you need to know about the SNP run council.

Basically just making up shite and knowing they can do what they like with nobody able or willing to fight them.

Rangers should sell 17000 tickets for Sunday now and tell them to try stopping us.
Which they will do. Then they will reduce numbers even more.

Us the fans are the key here. We have to react to this unfairness. We have to show as a support that we are very anti SNP. Because just now they think we don’t care and they are right. We don’t care enough to do anything. A concerted effort by the likes of club 1872 would do a great job in reducing amount of our fans that vote SNP. Any action that mobilises opposition will make them think.


Our problem is we can’t agree the day of the week let alone do anything.
 

dh1963

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Which they will do. Then they will reduce numbers even more.

Us the fans are the key here. We have to react to this unfairness. We have to show as a support that we are very anti SNP. Because just now they think we don’t care and they are right. We don’t care enough to do anything. A concerted effort by the likes of club 1872 would do a great job in reducing amount of our fans that vote SNP. Any action that mobilises opposition will make them think.


Our problem is we can’t agree the day of the week let alone do anything.
So we just accept our reduced numbers compared to Celtic for these upcoming games and rely on voting them out in a few years time?
 

StuMac1972

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"While Rangers are upset by the approach, Celtic bosses have welcomed the decision which will see Parkhead beat the country’s previous pandemic crowd record of 16,500 for the British & Irish Lions rugby clash at Murrayfield last month."

Last paragraph is comedy gold, trying to shoehorn in that they've achieved something.
 

The Railway Bear

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So the time lines and attendances allowed figures are:

17 July: Rangers v Arsenal - 2,000; Celtic v Preston - 2,000

20 July: Celtic v Midtjylland - 9,000.

24 July: Rangers v Brighton - 8,500 (why the 500 difference incidentally between this and their 9,000?); Celtic v West Ham - 18,500.

25 July: Rangers v Real Madrid - 12,750 (now we have a 5,750 difference - why?).

31 July: Rangers v Livingston - 17,000 (referred to as Rangers’ “COVID safety crowd limit” - is this an actual thing? If so, what is the criteria for determining it? If it is based on capacity of Ibrox and Parkhead then the numbers still don’t make sense. Nor does it make sense if you aren’t in any event maximising social distancing by opening all sections of the stadiums. And that is before you get into the fact that, as someone pointed out the other day, Ibrox is effectively compartmentalised into 12 or so different parts (I can’t quite recall what the number was but it was about 12 I think).

Celtic are “encouraged by the indicative figure of around 24,500 for the subsequent home game”. Is that them v Dundee on 7 August? Or a European game on 3/4 August (when we are away to Malmö / Helsinki)? If they are getting it for the European game, what are they then going to get for Dundee? Another increase? Why is there no mention of a Celtic “COVID safety crowd limit” and, if there is one, what is it and why does it differ from ours?

9 August: restrictions scheduled to lift.

10 August: Rangers v Malmö / Helsinki - full house expected.

Glasgow City Council’s statement just does not stand up to scrutiny, even against their own “explanation”. We both started at 2,000 fans. Two games later we are at 12,750 and they are at 18,500. Three games later we are at 17,000 and they are at 24,500.

I don’t think a “seethe” from Rangers is quite good enough here. The club should be demanding answers here and I’m sure they are. Whilst I understand why the club generally prefer to try to be diplomatic and do things behind close doors rather than have everything played out bitterly and in public, there are times when blatant double standards need to be laid bare and publicly called out. This feels like one of them.

How often do we hear about discrimination in Scotland, particularly the west coast of Scotland? Yet this sort of thing plays itself out like this. And, worse still, it plays itself out and nobody truly calls it out. We rant and rave on FF and the like and Rangers sources talk of “seething” but that’s it. That’s the extent of our voice. If the boot was on the other foot then this would be playing out on a very different way. James Dornan and co would be all over it.

And as an aside, the silence from Club 1872, the “fans’ group”, is deafening.

Really useful post that spells out how farcical it is. I really hope we don’t just lie down and take this.
 

Valley Bluenose

RTV? Completed it mate!
Looking at the numbers they quote in percentages it would appear they have assessed the DhimDome’s ‘safe’ capacity at 24,000 (circa 40%) and Ibrox at 17,000 (circa 34%). Why the difference? Maybe the narrow corridors in the massive Main Stand at our place? Who knows.

Moving on then, they say attendances start - post 19 July, so ignoring the 2 ‘test’ events at 2000 prior to that date - at 50% then 75% and then 100% of the ‘safe’ limit. Hence we get 8500 for Brighton, 12,750 for Real Madrid and 17,000 v Livi (that’s 50%, 75% and 100% of our ‘safe’ limit respectively).

On that basis, and that’s what they work to according to their own statement, the Dhims should have had 12,000 v the Danes, 18,000 v West Ham and then 24,000 for their next home game, given their ‘safe’ limit of 24,000. They only got 9000 v the Danes.

So the story on percentages doesn’t stack up. And that’s before looking to why there’s a difference in ‘safe’ capacity limits,
 
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