Bundy Bear
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McGregor, Tav, Goldson Barisic, Jack, Kamara, Arfield, Morelos, Candiaes are my starters, out of our players. Obviously Morelos will be gone but hopefully the money goes to 4 or 5 decent players.
- Beat Celtic.
- Got to the Europa League.
- Beat Rapid and draws with Villarreal.
- Comfortably second and still in the title race.
I’d say that’s a phenomenal return given where we were last year and the fact Gerrard has had very little to spend in that time.
Phenomenal? You must be on the windup. The season has been a failure. Europe was a chink of light but SG will be measured on domestic football. His team have performed poorly isn that respect.This is my worry.
Our problem is keeping Gerrard - not getting rid of him.
He’s doing the best he can with the resources available. Our season has been absolutely phenomenal given budgetory constraints.
If we persist on bringing in nonsense like Jordan Jones and other SPFL level players then there’s a danger Gerrard will decide at the end of the season he’s taken us as far as he can. Then where do we stand?
We need serious investment. But more realistically, it’s clear we have to sell Morelos. We need to get £25m minimum for him. Reinvest at least £15m of that to buy a whole new strikeforcs, pair of wingers and a creative attacking midfielder. The rest can be used to bulk up the squad.
If we don’t do this and give Gerrard some serious backing then I don’t see how we entice him to stay.
So you think five managers in three years is the answer?Personally I would give him to the end of the season and if we are still seeing the same mistakes then I would sack him just my opinion.
I think he walks.
He has stated time and again the players are not good enough.
Trying to win the League on the cheap buying Dundee & Kilmarnock players is never going to work. Gerrard should know that, if he doesn't we are in trouble
So how long do you continue with it look it's just my opinion.So you think five managers in three years is the answer?
January window was dogshit. We haven’t improved really, fair enough the centre backs are marginally better, arfield flatters to decieve. Barasic, grezda, goldson, katic we spent money on, are any of them actually good enough?
So do we just keep plodding on as we are a mediocre team with a inexperienced manager and he manages to come good.So you think five managers in three years is the answer?
Two cup defeats to the Sheep is very demoralising. However, it is wrong to say Gerrard’s ‘name’ is keeping him in a job. As I’ve pointed out elsewhere, we have lost the same number of league games as the Dhims. We are being snookered by draws - that’s how fine the margins are. Turn some of those draws into wins and the picture is very different. It’s not that they are, as some claim, worse than last season - they are on exactly the same points as they had at this stage last season.
We cannot, and should not, go through this endless cycle of sacking the Manager, ripping up the team and starting over again every Summer. It will not work.
His name isn't keeping him in the job, but had this not been him and had been, say McInnes (who was linked) folk would be calling for his head, there's no doubt about that.
I agree we can't go through an endless cycle of Managers, but when you take a gamble and it doesn't appear to be working, how long do you give? (Incidentally I feel he should be given next season as well, but needs to win a trophy)
Goid post VB and I didn't realise that the scum were on the same number of points as this time last year, can you post a copy of this please?Two cup defeats to the Sheep is very demoralising. However, it is wrong to say Gerrard’s ‘name’ is keeping him in a job. As I’ve pointed out elsewhere, we have lost the same number of league games as the Dhims. We are being snookered by draws - that’s how fine the margins are. Turn some of those draws into wins and the picture is very different. It’s not that they are, as some claim, worse than last season - they are on exactly the same points as they had at this stage last season.
We cannot, and should not, go through this endless cycle of sacking the Manager, ripping up the team and starting over again every Summer. It will not work.
Two cup defeats to the Sheep is very demoralising. However, it is wrong to say Gerrard’s ‘name’ is keeping him in a job. As I’ve pointed out elsewhere, we have lost the same number of league games as the Dhims. We are being snookered by draws - that’s how fine the margins are. Turn some of those draws into wins and the picture is very different. It’s not that they are, as some claim, worse than last season - they are on exactly the same points as they had at this stage last season.
We cannot, and should not, go through this endless cycle of sacking the Manager, ripping up the team and starting over again every Summer. It will not work.
Goid post VB and I didn't realise that the scum were on the same number of points as this time last year, can you post a copy of this please?
Cheers VB, I've bookmarked that footstats site.Can't be arsed digging out the tables but its covered in this article from 2 days ago. I believe this is a 'disguised' Daily Record website (who knows why, but its virtually identical). They are on same points as last season after 29 games, we are just 1 point better off than same time last season.
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/how-celtic-rangers-rest-top-15954496
EDIT: If you want it definitively, go to the link below. Select Scottish Premiership, change the season to 2017/2018, leave venue as 'all', change the date to 11/03/2018 and hit the 'Go' button. Handy wee site.
http://www.footstats.co.uk/index.cfm?task=league_full
We have employed a first time manager, we have improved, not enough, but you have to give him time our budget is pish compared to the tims.. Too many on here are looking for a quick fix, without 10 of millions being spent, it ain't happening in the short term,, changing the management puts us back again, let's hope he learns, I think he will, what he needs now is our support and the support of the board
It’s difficult to keep the head after being knocked out of 2 cups by shite like Aberdeen, but I think a new Rangers manager should be given 2 seasons (barring Pedro level humiliations.)
Tonight is a really bitter pill though.
Agree, if we all just keep saying stuff like WATP and No Surrender loads then things will be fine. Well done mate.At least two seasons in my opinion,we the fans knew that we were bringing in an unexperienced manager and all and sundry, seemed happy about it..
So now were hearing some fans talking about wanting the guy out, come the end of the season.
What a load of cods wallop, given time S.G.will get this club back to the top where it belongs.if we keep believing in him and his staff. No Surrender.!!
So you think five managers in three years is the answer?
Still doesnt get away from the fact that should still get you a better win ratio than 1 win in 9 against hibs and aberdeenWe hear that "the board have backed Gerrard"
We bough 4 players. Yes, 4 players.
Net spend £5m. Yes £5m
4 free's and 7 loans. That's hardly great backing.
Moreos/Tav money is crucial. We cannot expect our manager to be scraping about with loans and frees again. And I can't imagine he'd be happy to continue to put up with that.
Aye, let’s rip it up and start again!It’s not the catastrophe that the other clowns have presided over the past two seasons. But by fúck it’s not acceptable either.
Watching the same gane against Aberdeen for the 87th time this season indicates an inability to learn. Or more worryingly, an inability to break down a McInnes side.
“We just need more money” is no longer a viable strategy. If we’ve spent this much and have a £20 million player up front and still can’t produce...
The cries of “we were cheated” on here are inevitable but it seems to be Gerrard gets another season end he’s not built much credit as things stand.
Vast improvement needed and I say that as someone who thinks he has as put us in a better position.
He has until the end of the season to give us some results to remember and another season to win things. This can’t go on.
If that’s what you read from my post then...we’ll reading isn’t your strength.Aye, let’s rip it up and start again!
He doesn’t have a winning mentality.
People with league winners medals do, he hasn’t proven it as a player or manager.
There’s an edit button.If that’s what you read from my post then...we’ll reading isn’t your strength.
Steven Gerrard walking away from something? After everything he has achieved in his professional life ?I think he walks.
He has stated time and again the players are not good enough.
Trying to win the League on the cheap buying Dundee & Kilmarnock players is never going to work. Gerrard should know that, if he doesn't we are in trouble
You changing your avatar then ?He's not learning from his mistakes, failure to get the players motivated, performances and results are garbage, predictability in every game, a lack of tactical clout, weak, naive, inept, lacking a plan b...
Another big game that we were second best and on the end of a negative result.
Being Steven Gerrard is saving him. Simply a poor football manager.
I’m used to it.
He isn’t a winner. He’s won cups yeah but real winners, or “proper men” and Souness would day, stand the test of time over a season, when the chips are down and you have to churn out results week after week.
He didn’t do it as a player and he has yet to prove he can change and do it as a manager.
I’m used to it.
He isn’t a winner. He’s won cups yeah but real winners, or “proper men” and Souness would day, stand the test of time over a season, when the chips are down and you have to churn out results week after week.
He didn’t do it as a player and he has yet to prove he can change and do it as a manager.
Can I ask what you all expected of our first season back in the top league under Warburton? Cos that's basically where we started from this season, under someone with no managerial experience.
If people were genuinely expecting any more from this season than 2nd place and to start giving the filth a game and maybe beat them once or twice, then I'd like to know what that was based on?
Can I ask what you all expected of our first season back in the top league under Warburton? Cos that's basically where we started from this season, under someone with no managerial experience.
If people were genuinely expecting any more from this season than 2nd place and to start giving the filth a game and maybe beat them once or twice, then I'd like to know what that was based on?
Warburton left us 7 months in to the season. We made the league cup semi final under him and were still in the Scottish Cup when he left. Murty took us past Hamilton (which Warburton probably would have) and we were beaten in the semi finals by the bheggars.
Gerrard had better options than what Warburton did; McGregor, Goldson, Worrall, Tavernier, Jack, Arfield, Kamara, Candeias, Kent, Morelos...
Surely it's not too much to be asking to best Aberdeen in a cup competition. Three attempts and each one we spunked.