Hamza Igamane

GovanFront4 said:
Absolutely he could mate and I would start him over Dessers every day, but my point was more about the start of the season. We had a very limited budget and we spent money on a lad who couldn’t get near the team. Not entirely his fault definitely, but I don’t think the whole situation was handled well.
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he was injured when he arrived and basically had to do complete an entire pre season on his own as he was weeks behind.
 
Hurricane Run said:
He was signed to be 3rd choice this year behind Danilo and Dessers with a view to developing him.

Its pretty much exactly whats happening. Inventing a nonsense to justify your criticism is bizarre
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My reason for saying it is that he was the one we went for straight away for a large fee, and as soon as he signed the manager started to lower expectations about the money that would be spent.

Proper may have been similar amount/more but was a like for like replacement. And Bajrami was more but not as a deadline day deal.

EDIT: also want to point out my first post was in relation to somebody saying that anyone who had written him off was clueless. Simply pointing out 0 domestic goals isn’t particularly impressive but again last night was
 
bkerr72 said:
He wasn't a main signing in the summer at all with Danilo and Dessers albeit we were trying to move Dessers on. Since his debut at the Piggery only league game he's not played in was Hearts. He needs to get more minutes and go on a run of games to be properly judged not 10-15 minutes here or there. The 2 games he started he did look a bit lost in but he deserves far more time to be judged.
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Don’t disagree with a lot of what you have said.

I personally classed him as the main signing of the summer due to spending a relatively large fee quickly followed by the manager stating there wasn’t a massive budget. I agree he probably wasn’t a expected to start straight away
 
King Albertz said:
Man u are a Mid table team, he won't be there if/when they get back to the top

He's a tidy player, don't get me wrong, but put him back in the spfl right now and he wouldn't cut it
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That’s a leap.
Straight into the water!
He might not be City or Liverpool class player but he’s a level above the SPFL..
 
HMS.Temple.Garden said:
he was injured when he arrived and basically had to do complete an entire pre season on his own as he was weeks behind.
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I know that, that was partly the issue. With Dessers being Dessers and Danilo not being fit it was no surprise that questions were being asked as to why the back up we required also wasn’t ready to go.
 
LeithGer said:
“Criticism of the move”

He may end up being a star. But we are going into December and our main summer signing hasn’t started 2 games in a row was my point
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Don’t think he was/could be expected to come in and be the main striker from the start.
The issue is the team hasn’t been performing so that has put more pressure on him to hit the ground running.
If we had been playing well and our strikers had been scoring goals then nobody would be as bothered.
 
GovanFront4 said:
I know that, that was partly the issue. With Dessers being Dessers and Danilo not being fit it was no surprise that questions were being asked as to why the back up we required also wasn’t ready to go.
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It was explained multiple times that the approach was to improve aspects of the squad for the long term rather than focus on short term.

The manager said he could have signed different players if short term was the remit, but it wasn't. The aim was to put the club in a better place in terms of age and future value.

It's pretty clear that signing Hamza Igamane meets that brief far better than brining in somebody like Nesbitt or Simon Murray like some people are suggesting we should have done.
 
Bigbluebear said:
It was explained multiple times that the approach was to improve aspects of the squad for the long term rather than focus on short term.

The manager said he could have signed different players if short term was the remit, but it wasn't. The aim was to put the club in a better place in terms of age and future value.

It's pretty clear that signing Hamza Igamane meets that brief far better than brining in somebody like Nesbitt or Simon Murray like some people are suggesting we should have done.
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I’m not unhappy with the signing of Igamane and long term it will benefit us, but not having a striker ready to come in has seen us struggle terribly domestically. His two goals last night doesn’t change that the planning going in to the season was poor.
 
LeithGer said:
“Criticism of the move”

He may end up being a star. But we are going into December and our main summer signing hasn’t started 2 games in a row was my point
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People are deliberately missing this because of his two goals last night. It’s completely rewriting history to suggest we didn’t need cover in that position for the season starting.
 
stefanovitch said:
I know it goes against the very nature of FF but lets see how he does on Sunday, if selected, against a very different opponent
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I'd still expect him to be a little raw and have games where he's poor, but I'm really glad he was able to start and give a good showing last night.

If Danilo is getting back to his best, that'll take some pressure off of Igamane which could be a positive.
 
GovanFront4 said:
I’m not unhappy with the signing of Igamane and long term it will benefit us, but not having a striker ready to come in has seen us struggle terribly domestically. His two goals last night doesn’t change that the planning going in to the season was poor.
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The planning wasn't "poor".

It was different from what you wanted it to be.
 
Last night certainly proves to us all that this boy has ability and bags of potential, that in itself is something to be excited about for the future.

What he has still to prove, and he's still young so he'll be given allowances here more than Dessers/Danilo, is whether or not he can sustain a run of 2/3/4 performances like anywhere close to last night.

Because if it's not Igamane, it has to be someone else coming into that position who is effective and reliable and unfortunately right now we are short in that department.
 
It's his composure in front of goal that has impressed me the most. He's only really had a handful of scoring chances with us to date due to his limited game time and he already has 3 goals and an assist. If the figures given earlier are accurate he's achieved that in only the equivalent of 3 full games worth of time on the pitch. He now needs to translate that ratio to the domestic scene but said when he signed he was our most exciting signing and haven't changed my opinion since then. His potential is there for all to see.
 
GovanFront4 said:
Absolutely he could mate and I would start him over Dessers every day, but my point was more about the start of the season. We had a very limited budget and we spent money on a lad who couldn’t get near the team. Not entirely his fault definitely, but I don’t think the whole situation was handled well.
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Suppose this is the message that Clement is working hard to try and get people to understand. He accepts some of the players have taken time to settle but has persistently said that there is huge potential in them. The mentality of our support is why we buying him? Get Shankland in and we’d be closer to them! When in fact, that model wouldn’t get us to where we want in the short term and would absolutely murder us in the long term.

That said, Rangers is about winning and the manager will need to start showing progression towards that. The approach the club is taking at the moment, under huge pressure and a lot of it self-inflicted, is the only way that we can probably become what we all want us to be. We’re starting with no base which is the killer factor and one the support can’t handle.
 
Bigbluebear said:
It's more because of injuries to others and being lumbered with expensive players we couldn't shift.
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But banking on a player who has been injured for so long, a raw youngster & a plank of wood could be viewed as poor planning is all I'm saying. Not sure what else we could've done, apart from do more to push Dessers out (which I don't think we really did).
 
kirkiebluenose said:
I don’t care if he’s a young boy or raw describe it whatever way you want he’s never ever gonna be good enough for Rangers
What was the line Clement used on his signing “we had to buy him now as we couldn’t afford him in 12 months”

I’ve never heard as much pish in my life Maryhill juniors wouldn’t play him
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Brilliant way to encourage a young up and coming football player
 
Dado's Bandage said:
Suppose this is the message that Clement is working hard to try and get people to understand. He accepts some of the players have taken time to settle but has persistently said that there is huge potential in them. The mentality of our support is why we buying him? Get Shankland in and we’d be closer to them! When in fact, that model wouldn’t get us to where we want in the short term and would absolutely murder us in the long term.

That said, Rangers is about winning and the manager will need to start showing progression towards that. The approach the club is taking at the moment, under huge pressure and a lot of it self-inflicted, is the only way that we can probably become what we all want us to be. We’re starting with no base which is the killer factor and one the support can’t handle.
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I don’t want Shankland and never wanted him. I did want a fit striker though that wasn’t Dessers which we haven’t had and has hurt us.
 
What a read this was. For everyone saying Igamane wouldn’t get a game for any SPL team - see if you also once said Cerny was garbage, and Raskin was garbage, and Jefte was garbage, then you probably don’t have an effin clue what you’re on about.
 
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