Hearts/Partick Thistle SFA Charge (Notice of Complaint)
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Homelander
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Unreal and sums up scottish football in a nutshell
Jimmy Jazz
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Scum.
The Pontiac Bandit
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Lol they really are a corrupt cable.
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
The SFA have little to do with the Arbitration. They supply a list of potential panel members - in excess of 50 to choose from I believe - and each side gets to pick 1 panel member. The two selected then sit down together and choose the Chair of the panel.
The Court have also steered them towards the panel members being experienced in Law, rather than 'football people'.
bluetwo15
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Cheers for clarifying
This in spades.
The organisation Hearts/thistle have been forced to use by the courts will try to sanction them for going to court in the 1st place.
What chance have they got?
did I no read on twitter also some of the documents that were to be handed over have went missing allegedly
Bristol_bnose3
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Are they actually modelling themselves on Ceaușescu's Romania now?
Crafty Cifu
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Knew it was coming. Need to feel sorry for both teams. All to suit one club, shocking. Badly needs a reshuffle. Corrupt to the core.
Scoot1975
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Would not surprise me,they are dealing with rhats here
Keyser_Soze
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Neil Doncaster is on the SFA board, isn't he?
How could hearts have taken this to the SFA before the courts when Doncaster wrote to UEFA to call the leagues before the vote was even put to the clubs.
How could hearts have taken this to the SFA before the courts when Doncaster wrote to UEFA to call the leagues before the vote was even put to the clubs.
Danger Zone
Just the tip...
Fergie90
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I'm sure they could find 50 people with certain leanings shall we say, then those two pick the chair and I'm sure they can also out vote the chair of the committee anyway.
Sticky Fingers
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It would be scandalous if it wasn’t so hilariously handled.
a shower of corrupt bastards, each and every mentally challenged lickspittle member who are in bed with them.
Hearts and partick have little to zero chance of getting anything from this at all, not when the SFA have their manky paws all over this now.
a shower of corrupt bastards, each and every mentally challenged lickspittle member who are in bed with them.
Hearts and partick have little to zero chance of getting anything from this at all, not when the SFA have their manky paws all over this now.
The Bin Man
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Let's get wired intae them!
JD1872
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This will end up back in court if this is the route they go down, at the recent hearing the judge made it clear that Hearts had a right to challenge this and raised concerns that they could be punished by the SPFL. The SPFL are not winning that fight in court
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Coatbridge Chancellor
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Na, Budge made an error taking it to court.
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
The two panel members appointed first are selected 1 by Hearts/Thistle and the other by the SPFL. They then have to agree on the Chair. Why would they then choose to vote out the man they have both agreed on?
There's much to complain of at the SFA, for sure, but this panel will have very little involvement - if any - from the likes of Petrie and Mulraney.
Coatbridge Chancellor
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Why?
rangeral
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Notice of Complaint | Partick Thistle FC
Tuesday 14 July 2020
Alleged Party in Breach: Partick Thistle FC
Disciplinary Rule allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 78 - No member or Associated Person shall take a dispute which is referable to arbitration in terms of Article 99 to a court of law except as expressly permitted by the terms of Article 99.
Principal hearing date: Thursday 6 August 2020
Notice of Complaint | Heart of Midlothian FC
Tuesday 14 July 2020
Alleged Party in Breach: Heart of Midlothian FC
Disciplinary Rule allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 78 - No member or Associated Person shall take a dispute which is referable to arbitration in terms of Article 99 to a court of law except as expressly permitted by the terms of Article 99.
Principal hearing date: Thursday 6 August 2020
Tuesday 14 July 2020
Alleged Party in Breach: Partick Thistle FC
Disciplinary Rule allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 78 - No member or Associated Person shall take a dispute which is referable to arbitration in terms of Article 99 to a court of law except as expressly permitted by the terms of Article 99.
Principal hearing date: Thursday 6 August 2020
Notice of Complaint | Heart of Midlothian FC
Tuesday 14 July 2020
Alleged Party in Breach: Heart of Midlothian FC
Disciplinary Rule allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 78 - No member or Associated Person shall take a dispute which is referable to arbitration in terms of Article 99 to a court of law except as expressly permitted by the terms of Article 99.
Principal hearing date: Thursday 6 August 2020
Shankillglenmen
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So what they really are saying. There rule is finial and that’s it that’s a joke that
The Pontiac Bandit
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I don't agree.
They got concessions in court they wouldn't have got if they went straight to the SFA.
I.e release of documents and a say into the panel etc.
Trueblueal
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The day before arbitration. Burn this league to the ground. Hope Hearts win and mass resignations follow
Coatbridge Chancellor
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You could argue that, I agree. But in terms of this charge they are/and were clearly in breach of the rule.
Could have wasted a week in court and the money it cost just to end up with another fine, or worse...
Scenester87
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They are literally trolling everyone now.
HillbillyRFC
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Partick and Hearts respond instantly:
Tuesday 14th July, 2020 at 4:15pm
We are incredulous to have received a Notice of Complaint from the Scottish FA in the circumstances. It is oppressive of them to require submissions from both clubs by 20 July when we are, in terms of their own articles of association, actively engaged in arbitration.
As our focus must be squarely on that, we have already requested the Scottish FA to review the timing to allow us to be properly prepared and represented. That is the very least we should expect from the process.
Tuesday 14th July, 2020 at 4:15pm
We are incredulous to have received a Notice of Complaint from the Scottish FA in the circumstances. It is oppressive of them to require submissions from both clubs by 20 July when we are, in terms of their own articles of association, actively engaged in arbitration.
As our focus must be squarely on that, we have already requested the Scottish FA to review the timing to allow us to be properly prepared and represented. That is the very least we should expect from the process.
Burnleybluenose
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They can’t ...and won’t be.
From my reading she should have gone to arbitration first but it is possible after the arbitration ,they can go back to the court depending on circumstances.
High Society
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Are you sure?
my info is that each party chooses their own Member and the 2 Members then choose and independent chairperson.
Fergie90
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You are probably right mate but all I'm saying is the sfa will try handpicked that list for their own benefit, hearts/thistle can only pick from a list drawn up by SFA.
And on the point about picking the chair then out voting them, they can literally pick someone who agrees with them or doesnt aslong as the first two agree.
It may go the other way and work in hearts/thistles favour but I'm very sceptical of anything the spfl or sfa do.
Partickger
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They wave their corruption about like a badge of pride these bastards.
Bear of Burnside
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They use the Compliance Officer like their own Gestapo.
lanarkshire_bear
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Hearts have been put in a position where they stand to lose millions due to a corrupt vote. A few tens of thousand here and there pales in comparison. Also they were granted discovery of documents by the court, which the SPFL resisted.
Lanark Bear in the NE
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So if Hearts and Partick Thistle win their case, where does that leave the SFA ? Within another crisis !
1288Bear
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I'm pretty sure that there was reference made during the case before Lord Clark about potential punishments and possible expulsion due to the path Hearts and Thistle had taken
Lord Clark, if I remember correctly, was not impressed, questioned the legality of any potential punishment and suggested that such action could see the matter back in court.
Guess these guys are just so used to bullying people and getting their own way that they dont care. That could well be their downfall and if, as suggested elsewhere in the thread, certain documents aren't available then this will be heading straight back to court.
Hearts and Partick clearly have them rattled and need to hold their nerve now.
Lord Clark, if I remember correctly, was not impressed, questioned the legality of any potential punishment and suggested that such action could see the matter back in court.
Guess these guys are just so used to bullying people and getting their own way that they dont care. That could well be their downfall and if, as suggested elsewhere in the thread, certain documents aren't available then this will be heading straight back to court.
Hearts and Partick clearly have them rattled and need to hold their nerve now.
