If he hasn't paid up front then I hope we are tough and if he's late paying then stop deliveries until paid.
It'll be Castore who will have to be tough
If he hasn't paid up front then I hope we are tough and if he's late paying then stop deliveries until paid.
Wouldn't even steal one from there.
Given we have been in court with him almost non stop since the new board took over. I don’t think the club want to say anything that might end up seeing them sue us again. I think they have chosen to let our association with him end quietly, and you can’t really blame them.I don’t think we ever categorically said we were or weren’t? I can’t recall exactly.
I get what you mean. The club have maybe been economical with the truth, but ultimately we are clear of matching clauses and Ashley gets a period of selling where I would assume other retailers (outside us and Castore) can’t sell it.
On the face of it, that’s a good deal. But it should’ve been made clear
Exactly why are we getting worked up about this ?? He’s making us money ffs. Who gives a feck a long as we are getting our shareLet the dosh roll in. The more the merrier.
As much as the rat that he is, no need to cut off our nose to spite our face.
Exactly why are we getting worked up about this ?? He’s making us money ffs. Who gives a feck a long as we are getting our share
I doubt the % the club have get will be that high probably about 10% maxIt is not a normal deal as Castore are giving Rangers £3m minimum no matter what happens.
On top of that we get a cut of every sale made and it would appear that the money is distributed on receipt.
If you read the interview from Tom Beahon they are budgeting for sale 500,000 shirts this season which will produce about £30m in revenue.
Presuming RFC cut of these sales is nothing less than 30% we are looking at another £10 million.
As long as there is no difference in the amount returned to Rangers for any shirt sale carried out by any retailer supplied by Castore
If we could only get them worked up this way when the next Holyrood elections come up, we maybe onto something.Exactly why are we getting worked up about this ?? He’s making us money ffs. Who gives a feck a long as we are getting our share
The c@nts a millionaire/billionaire forget him he is irrelevant if he’s selling our shirts in his stores all over the uk he making us money!We are making him money. He’s had more than enough off us the fat lady's front bottom
Along with Donnay socks 5 packs, hot tuna and destroyed brands like slazenger and LonsdaleTrue mate, it doesn’t bother me as it just means more places selling our kits.
Not as much if you buy from Castore direct or the Rangers shop. It's common sense.The c@nts a millionaire/billionaire forget him he is irrelevant if he’s selling our shirts in his stores all over the uk he making us money!
Mike Ashley could be personally selling these strips from a Barra for 30 quid. Only someone who's on the glue, and flew in from Saturn would buy anything off the guy. I don't get why some folk find this difficult. The boy from Castore explained the situation. Buy from anyone but Ashley's outlets. It's really that simple.
That's just supposition mate and he doesent have exclusivity.This was obviously in the deal made for us to get rid of Ashley once and for all.
It looks like for the next 3-4 weeks he will be exclusively selling the kit.
The c@nts a millionaire/billionaire forget him he is irrelevant if he’s selling our shirts in his stores all over the uk he making us money!
Not every person is as engaged with this issue as people on forums and social media. The majority of people won't even know Frasers is now owned by Sports Direct.
He’s selling them on ours and Castore’s terms.
Just think about that for a moment and let it sink in how far we’ve come.
No, just lots who don't use message boards as their primary source of information.Gers store online crashed because people went there trying to buy the new kit.
Lots without brains it seems
That is not true.Castore made a deal with the club that Ashley didn't want to match there's no legality or any reason for Castore to give him stock at a preferential discount to compared to any other supplier
It has absolutely zero to do with Rangers.If he hasn't paid up front then I hope we are tough and if he's late paying then stop deliveries until paid.
As far as I can see, SD will, if nobody buys these kits, stop stocking them. This will mean no more income for Castore or us from the deal and a whole load of hassle and bad publicity for nothing.
The whole thing stinks
It creates exclusivity for Ashley who is accepting pre-orders.To create exclusivity most likely.
only 50k available, crap I better order one in case I don’t get it.
it gets money in the door now rather than in August
Tom Beahon said (along the lines of) 200k more have been ordered to be ready for launch
Rangers already have the money when fat Mike buys the strip from Castore.The c@nts a millionaire/billionaire forget him he is irrelevant if he’s selling our shirts in his stores all over the uk he making us money!
Don't think you're necessarily right there. My understanding from everything I've heard is that we receive bonuses based on sales. Therefore, if we simply get a flat fee per shirt etc., then it wouldn't matter a jot whether they're sold by HoF, SD, the new Rangers store, any of the new castore stores or online. We would be making the same no matter where they're sold and no matter the price. But this is why we need a bit more conformation on the details as there's still some unknowns we need cleared up.Not as much if you buy from Castore direct or the Rangers shop. It's common sense.
If it happens to be your ONLY way of getting a kit then fire in
Yeah it doesn’t really, Tom Beahon confirmed an order of something like 200k more to be ready for August 1st launch of the home and away kit and Rangers store.It creates exclusivity for Ashley who is accepting pre-orders.
Why not make most of them available for preorder then?Yeah it doesn’t really, Tom Beahon confirmed an order of something like 200k more to be ready for August 1st launch of the home and away kit and Rangers store.
Ashley isn’t offering it before 1st August.
So anyone with an ounce of common sense and moral fibre would be waiting til August 1st and ordering from Rangers
Why not make most of them available for preorder then?
Now parents can only pre order their kids kit from Ashley and they would rather do that than risk not being able to get their kid a kit on the opening day.
Well, those parents either live on mars or don’t care about the part Ashley played in taking us to the edge of oblivion, basically handing Celtic 9 titles in a row and starving out club of money and generations of fans having the kits of their heroes growing up.Why not make most of them available for preorder then?
Now parents can only pre order their kids kit from Ashley and they would rather do that than risk not being able to get their kid a kit on the opening day.
Yes we do make money but he should not make a penny from any rangers supporter. Anyone else but himI dont see thehuge issue with this to be honest
The 4lads interview with castore cleared this all up. The strip is going to be on sale at many retailers including greaves, sports direct Frasers and others
We make money on ALL of these sales. Frasers and sports direct have obviously paid castore X to receive Y strips.
Obviously we make more if purchased direct from castore / Rangers so we just need to ensure our fans play smart
How many people are honestly going to buy strips from House Of Frasers? It will be in the hundreds, if that
or it may not surprise. let's be realistic, we were in a pretty water tight legal situation, with SDI being able to match for eternity (or so it was pointing to), if a deal was required to get out of it, so be it.Nobody on here knows the deal Ashley/SD has with Rangers / Castore IT MAY SURPRISE SOME what deal SD has with Rangers!!
Still not 100% sure though are we?Don't think you're necessarily right there. My understanding from everything I've heard is that we receive bonuses based on sales. Therefore, if we simply get a flat fee per shirt etc., then it wouldn't matter a jot whether they're sold by HoF, SD, the new Rangers store, any of the new castore stores or online. We would be making the same no matter where they're sold and no matter the price. But this is why we need a bit more conformation on the details as there's still some unknowns we need cleared up.
Nonetheless, it's obviously just better and safer to buy from Castore anyway, but we really have nothing to lose and everything to gain by SD selling nationwide and abroad, to a volume of non Rangers fan customers and 'throught traffic' that we and Castore could never dream of reaching. It may leave a bad taste in the mouth that he's still making profits from our merchandise, but he won't be making it at our expense anymore which is the crucial difference; on the contrary we will be making more profit at his. In fact, as he's buying bulk, then I would hope we would be getting paid our dividend on their whole order as soon as it leaves Castores warehouse and before he's even sold them. And whether he sells them or not. That means more money in earlier.
Simple message still is though, everyone buy from Castore, but lets not fret about SD selling extra for us, to those outside our circle. Lets trust our retail partners as the deal is mutually beneficial. If they believe they can sell more this way then let them get on with it and we'll both reap the rewards.
First time replying to myself.If he hasn't paid up front then I hope we are tough and if he's late paying then stop deliveries until paid.
i think with everything to do with SDI you have to realise the NDA and public gagging they have imposed on us in the past. they previously banned the club and directors from in any way shape or form speaking out or hinting to the support not to buy from SDI. you also have to remember that SDI held all the cards, a never ending matching clause. who's to say after we signed the Castore deal and SDI didn't match it, that up until a certain point they could actually activate it? any public outcry could have damaged the deal we were about to start.Still not 100% sure though are we?
That's not a dig at you btw
They also have exclusivity over certain products that Rangers allowed them, so this could well be the wallets, scarves, shinpads, kids stationery, tankards, key rings which generate decent money at Xmas. Could be anything, again we don't know?
I completely get the buy, buy, buy! But it's far from cleared up for me. I'm not questioning Rangers don't benefit for a second but I'm about 99% ecstatic about the Castore deal.
What is it they say...I'm not angry just disappointed. Rangers should have trusted the fans on this from the start.
The vast vast majority of Bears know the score, and my auld man, who's never been on the internet in his puff, knows Ashley is a lady's front bottom. It's up to the engaged to keep the disengaged abreast of Ashley's skulduggery.Not every person is as engaged with this issue as people on forums and social media. The majority of people won't even know Frasers is now owned by Sports Direct.
i think with everything to do with SDI you have to realise the NDA and public gagging they have imposed on us in the past. they previously banned the club and directors from in any way shape or form speaking out or hinting to the support not to buy from SDI. you also have to remember that SDI held all the cards, a never ending matching clause. who's to say after we signed the Castore deal and SDI didn't match it, that up until a certain point they could actually activate it? any public outcry could have damaged the deal we were about to start.
I always think of it from the board's point of view, people make out as if they are pulling the wool over our eyes. we all pay £600 for our season ticket and £60 for our shirts, but these guys are putting in eye watering amounts of money that was probably meant to be their kid's inheritance money. they would have thought carefully about what information could be communicated publicly, i also think the delay it took to get a statement out the other day signals that they have to tread very carefully about what they say publicly - it made no mention of SDI directly - who's to say there are ongoing negotiations to settle the current court cases easier than court would be?
Aye but there were various legal arguments around what terms of the deal were actually matchable I'm sure. That was SDIs court case anyway. I.e. fans always said, can a company not just offer a massive lump sum up front and he wont match it and others argued it might not be so simpleI dont think SD would ever have matched the Castore deal, Ashley wants and has had it all his own way paying buttons and raking it in,the Castore deal is much more Rangers friendly with a chunk of money up front each season and a decent/fair % slice of the profit, all of that goes against Ashleys screw them to the floor policy.