I’m torn about giving Barry the job full time

He’s gone up in my estimation as a manager in the last couple of months and he deserves another chance at a decent level. We will be looking for better though.
 
Clay Davis said:
There is no situation where he should be given any kind of permanent role.

He’s done what has been needed at times coming in and firing a rocket up the players and getting us to a European quarter final.

There’s no control in any games though it’s pure chaos ball.
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100%. Thank you for your efforts in seeing out this season but we need to move onwards and upwards in the summer.

Our best performing squad in recent years was tactically disciplined and attacked games early on. Chaosball, often causing and appearing again in response to going two goals down, will win us nothing
 
I’m not in the Ferguson for manager camp….

But it would be interesting to see what the results had been even if he had Souter and Balogun fit for 4/5 matches in a row.

Beale and Clement hung them selves by not addressing the defence….especially Clement who should have known better (but was perhaps financially strung)
 
He won't be anywhere near the job but If he gets us to a semi or we manage to make the final, then he wont be short of decent offers from all over the place.

Ultimately that will be his reward.
 
TriggersBroom said:
Surely no one is actually judging on today given we’ve put out our second 11 (10 from 35mins) plus 2-0 down.

To come back to 2-2 with that team out at least shower some character

No matter who’s manager next year we need far superior players to choose from
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Today is certainly not the day to judge on and could be looked at positively given the attitude of the squad despite being an absolute state.

Longer term, we should be looking to get much better players and also a much better manager in.
 
It's actually quite surreal watching us domestically at the moment. Doesn't matter the opposition, we look crap on and off the ball.

Keeps playing a back three when we're clearly not suited to that at all. Every domestic game so far, start with a back three, concede two goals, switch to a back 4 and end up looking so much better for it. Next game rolls around, same thing happens again. It's becoming absurd.
 
ronadamus_prime said:
It's actually quite surreal watching us domestically at the moment. Doesn't matter the opposition, we look crap on and off the ball.

Keeps playing a back three when we're clearly not suited to that at all. Every domestic game so far, start with a back three, concede two goals, switch to a back 4 and end up looking so much better for it. Next game rolls around, same thing happens again. It's becoming absurd.
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It worked at the piggery which gets little or no mention.

First half was pretty shocking but it is dead rubber with a far more important game coming, the first goal as well is a great free kick and i have never seen Rangers get an easy game up there.

Did you take a close look at the tactical decisions before Barry took over ?
 
Mental to think that people want to give the job to a guy who is preceding over the worst performances I’ve seen as a Rangers fan. A back 3 in Scotland league games …… Deary me
 
No we have regressed under Barry in terms of our ability to keep the ball and dominate games.

His team selections can be strange too. Today we started with a number 10 in Danilo starting as a number 9. Our number 9 in Igamane started on the right wing. Our left attacking midfielder in Bajrami started in central midfield. Meanwhile an attacking player in Finlay started as LWB and the weakest winger you can meet in McAusland started as RWB.

It’s a no from me.
 
Thornliebank_Bear said:
It worked at the piggery which gets little or no mention.

First half was pretty shocking but it is dead rubber with a far more important game coming, the first goal as well is a great free kick and i have never seen Rangers get an easy game up there.

Did you take a close look at the tactical decisions before Barry took over ?
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The game at the piggery was a dead rubber too though. They were already free and clear in the league.
 
Sean Dyche is probably my preferred candidate if it's realistic (and now is possibly the only time that kind of appointment is realistic, before a Premier League team takes a punt on him mid next season).

He has a history of building a title winning team when he took a Burnley side that were favourites for relegation up to the Premier League, then when they got relegated, he won the Championship the next season and established them in the Premier League.

He can be pragmatic enough to continue what we started in Europe. He will get the best out of most of the players we already have that stay on for next season, and is a stronger man-manager than anyone we've had since Walter.

He has a lot of experience of British football too which is a bonus. I don't think a seasoned Premier League manager would come up to Scotland and fail here.
 
I'd like to see what type of team Ferguson et al could put on the park shorn of the dross that plagues the squad. He was always going to try to tinker at the edges slightly and it was always likely to come unstuck because the players and the ingrained way of playing was never going to be fixed inside ten to twelve weeks.

Depending on the Americans intentions, he may well prove to be the cheaper option.

What's the alternative? An experienced mercenary who will demand a fortune in salary but who will be forced to relatively wheel and deal due to ffp? Surely that is equally fraught with risk. You could argue we've already underwent a form of that under Clement.

I don't think he's the managerial write off that many would have you believe. But I'm not actively promoting his cause either. The domestic form has been awful and there is no getting away from that but there were similar results long before Ferguson came in.

Did anyone realistically expect these leopards to change their aged spots? I didn't.
 
When he was announced as interim, my opinion was he'd have to do something miraculous to be considered for the role permanently. He hasn't got close to that. He's done reasonably well but, short of winning the Europa League, I think it's clear we need to just draw a line under it.

Having said that, I'd like to see him and his team get another job in the SPL or England. If they could have 3-4 good seasons overperforming at another club, there's no reason why they shouldn't be contenders for our vacancy in the future.
 
One thing's for certain, his period in the dugout and the discussion regarding his longer term viability has hammered the ultimate nail in the clamour for Derek McInnes coffin.

Thank fcuk for that.
 
I’m not sure another manager would have got better from the squad of players. Saying that as someone who was very much against his interim appointment. He’s got a couple of big results that would not have happened under Clement
 
Clay Davis said:
There is no situation where he should be given any kind of permanent role.

He’s done what has been needed at times coming in and firing a rocket up the players and getting us to a European quarter final.

There’s no control in any games though it’s pure chaos ball.
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Everything Clement was accused of has played out the same with Ferguson. His set up of the team today was wild. He has made us worse defensively.

Thank him for getting the monkey off our back at the pigsty and did well to get us to the QF of Europa but he needs to go at season end.
 
RFC56 said:
Even if he won us the europa league he shouldn’t be in the managers job next season. Domestically he has no style of play and team concedes far to many goals even in comparison with clement who we know wasn’t good enough
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He had a style i think but we just don't have the players to play it they are to ingrained in counter attacking football.

If he was to win the el then yes he would be in consideration tbh

The problem is since Gerrard we have been cost cutting reducing the squad while recruitment has been honking at best there's been some decent signings but the squad is so out of shape and unbalanced its unreal.

The managers took the brunt off it but it's not that simple they from top to bottom there has been mistakes and we are now at stage that there is no simple fix
 
Portadown_Bear said:
No we have regressed under Barry in terms of our ability to keep the ball and dominate games.

His team selections can be strange too. Today we started with a number 10 in Danilo starting as a number 9. Our number 9 in Igamane started on the right wing. Our left attacking midfielder in Bajrami started in central midfield. Meanwhile an attacking player in Finlay started as LWB and the weakest winger you can meet in McAusland started as RWB.

It’s a no from me.
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The team today was about the game on Thursday nothing else

We have no other options
 
I don’t think you can judge any manager with those players. He may have instilled a bit of fight into them but I wouldn’t want to be trusting many, if indeed any, of this squad to turn it around next season.

Is it too risky to rebuild under an inexperienced manager with potentially a bigger transfer kitty than we’ve had for decades?
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
Everything Clement was accused of has played out the same with Ferguson. His set up of the team today was wild. He has made us worse defensively.

Thank him for getting the monkey off our back at the pigsty and did well to get us to the QF of Europa but he needs to go at season end.
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Whilst I won’t judge Ferguson one way or the other for today’s game, I certainly agree with you he doesnt seem to be the answer. Everything is a bit chaotic, it’s working in some of the bigger games as he’s got some of the guys really working hard for him (as they do every manager at the start and the games they want to turn up!) but it’s not sustainable.

He’s done much better than I thought and I hope he gets another job in management with his back room team and who knows what happens in the future!
 
ecossebear said:
Whilst I won’t judge Ferguson one way or the other for today’s game, I certainly agree with you he doesnt seem to be the answer. Everything is a bit chaotic, it’s working in some of the bigger games as he’s got some of the guys really working hard for him (as they do every manager at the start and the games they want to turn up!) but it’s not sustainable.

He’s done much better than I thought and I hope he gets another job in management with his back room team and who knows what happens in the future!
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He may get a job in the Scottish Championship if he is lucky. I'm thankful for the win at the piggery and getting us past Fener but his time should be up at the season end.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
He may get a job in the Scottish Championship if he is lucky. I'm thankful for the win at the piggery and getting us past Fener but his time should be up at the season end.
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Barry's problem is the fact he's one of us and I don't think he'd be accepted elsewhere by fan bases who seem to hate us.

I could see him getting being offered a Premiership/top end Championship job next season and there being a revolt against it.
 
SDF said:
Barry's problem is the fact he's one of us and I don't think he'd be accepted elsewhere by fan bases who seem to hate us.

I could see him getting being offered a Premiership/top end Championship job next season and there being a revolt against it.
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I think he'll be at killie next season if not Rangers, killie fans are getting sick of mcinnes now, i think they'd welcome a younger change
 
ecossebear said:
Whilst I won’t judge Ferguson one way or the other for today’s game, I certainly agree with you he doesnt seem to be the answer. Everything is a bit chaotic, it’s working in some of the bigger games as he’s got some of the guys really working hard for him (as they do every manager at the start and the games they want to turn up!) but it’s not sustainable.

He’s done much better than I thought and I hope he gets another job in management with his back room team and who knows what happens in the future!
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It's utterly chaotic. We've gone from being overly rigid in what we were doing to what amounts to a tactical blunderbuss. We are almost comically open and shapeless at times. It might be an entertaining cameo, but it's no plan for the future.
 
I think if Barry got us to the final of the Europa league that ought to be giving the directors something to think about. If he won it we would be insane not to give him the gig. Anything leads then I think it really needs to be a manager with a track record. But Barry has been great as caretaker. I don’t think we could ask anything more.
 
He knows it’s an interim job but of course he’s going to say, if offered he’d take it. In reality he is gaining managerial experience to further his career. He’s doing okay in difficult circumstances.
 
Barry won’t get it. He knows this full well.

He has had offers to go back to management at smaller clubs last few years, but that was his issue, he didn’t get that the smaller clubs couldn’t live up to the high demands he puts on them and the players.

At Rangers it fits well for him, to an extent.


If he even somehow won the EL, then he still shouldn’t get it.
 
Whoever takes over the job has a massive summer ahead of them. The last few league games has shown this team isn’t up to the rigours of Scottish football.
 
Tshirtguy said:
I think if Barry got us to the final of the Europa league that ought to be giving the directors something to think about. If he won it we would be insane not to give him the gig. Anything leads then I think it really needs to be a manager with a track record. But Barry has been great as caretaker. I don’t think we could ask anything more.
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He hasn't been great at all - at best it's been mixed.

He's given us a couple of great moments, namely beating Fenerbahce and winning at the piggery, but the domestic form that aside has been appaling and even worse than under Clement.

A fresh start in the summer is badly needed at all levels of the club.
 
Clement was transfixed on his system and wouldn't change it or be flexible which didn't suit Scottish football, Barry (though it could be because of squad and time with them) is the complete opposite. A manager somewhere in between is what we need.
 
Ferguson atleast knows that we need different game plans for Scotland and in Europe/old firms, He for as much as we start crap he knows how to change a game, Don’t think he’s the man for the job but we need someone who isn’t arrogant enough to believe their philosophy works every game
 
He has definitely given that players a boot up the arse, but do they need the HT bollocking every game before they get their finger out? It's bizarre how lazy the Rangers squad is, and its been this way for years.
I doubt he will get the job full time, but would have no issue with him and McCann remaining on as part of the coaching staff, but doubt Barry would accept that now.
 
BF has handled himself so much better than i thought he would.
I guess he would jestison most of that squad if he could. Problem is there is so much of an overhaul required in squad quality and tactical management required it will take a revolution to do it.
Its going to be interestimg to see the 'candidates' that come avail and their plans to return us to our desired position.
I think he's done well but those home defeats and rotten first halves are still happening. I beleive that is totally with the players mindset and not prep.
 
Would love it to be honest, but not seeing enough to merit that decision being made.

Bar Fenerbahçe away and last Thursday, we have been dire in large sections of every other game.

Most probably a personel issue but the Dessers conundrum, to the detriment of the development of our greatest asset, is a red flag for me.
 
The Sentinal said:
Would love it to be honest, but not seeing enough to merit that decision being made.

Bar Fenerbahçe away and last Thursday, we have been dire in large sections of every other game.

Most probably a personel issue but the Dessers conundrum, to the detriment of the development of our greatest asset, is a red flag for me.
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Raskin?? ;)
 
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