SuperGers07
Well-Known Member
Doubt King would take them up on that offer.
What happens if Ashley buys these shares, sorry if this question has already been posed
Couldn’t C1872 buy some of these ? I’d like them to if they can. Not sure how much is in the funds.
Your judgement is clouded.It wont matter who owns them theyll be worth nothing. Wouldnt you rather see 1.5 million go on the team and the two clowns losing their incrstment?
Why?
C1872 should use any money to invest in the club at the next share issue, further diluting these c*%nts our of relevance. They should not give money to the bastards who tried to destroy us.
Give the money to the club, not the no-necked pseudo-gangsters.
I thought it was just voting rights that had been removed from them and a few others?
Not sure why they can't sell, though someone far better qualified than myself could clarify.
C1872 wasn't able to take up its full allocation at the last share issue so until its revenue is such that it can expect to exceed the amount required to maintain its shareholding, why not just let shareholders like the Easdales and BPH be diluted to negligible oblivion? Buying their shareholdings and then as a result not having the funds to participate in a new share issue (in part or full) would be counterproductive. The benefit of C1872 having a marginally higher percentage shareholding would come at the cost of providing the club with funds so there's a trade off to be considered.Your judgement is clouded.
The idea his shares will be worth nothing isn't true. They will be worth what the share value is, and Easdale owns over 5m of them.
Today his holding is over 3%, but it will be diluted by two further share issues. However, it's still a lot of shares. Club 1872 will do well out of buying them. It's just a question of getting the timing right. Success on the field is expected, commercial revenue is going to increase, share value will go up too.
Nobody knows what or who will come along in the future. The quicker Club 1872 reach their 25% shareholding goal the better.
Probably very naive and I absolutely want them our the club, 100% they are a cancer. However, I don't think their intention at the very start was to %^*& us over. In the end they quite clearly got caught up in it and are as much to blame as any one else, but I don't think it was their initial intention. I just don't think they are clever enough to have thought it all through.
Why?
C1872 should use any money to invest in the club at the next share issue, further diluting these c*%nts our of relevance. They should not give money to the bastards who tried to destroy us.
Give the money to the club, not the no-necked pseudo-gangsters.
Club 1872 did take up their allocation at the share issue. They informed Rangers how many shares they wanted, and they bought them. News to me if they didn't.C1872 wasn't able to take up its full allocation at the last share issue so until its revenue is such that it can expect to exceed the amount required to maintain its shareholding, why not just let shareholders like the Easdales and BPH be diluted to negligible oblivion? Buying their shareholdings and then as a result not having the funds to participate in a new share issue (in part or full) would be counterproductive. The benefit of C1872 having a marginally higher percentage shareholding would come at the cost of providing the club with funds so there's a trade off to be considered.
Your judgement is clouded.
The idea his shares will be worth nothing isn't true. They will be worth what the share value is, and Easdale owns over 5m of them.
Today his holding is over 3%, but it will be diluted by two further share issues. However, it's still a lot of shares. Club 1872 will do well out of buying them. It's just a question of getting the timing right. Success on the field is expected, commercial revenue is going to increase, share value will go up too.
Nobody knows what or who will come along in the future. The quicker Club 1872 reach their 25% shareholding goal the better.
They will only be worth what people want to pay for themYour judgement is clouded.
The idea his shares will be worth nothing isn't true. They will be worth what the share value is, and Easdale owns over 5m of them.
Today his holding is over 3%, but it will be diluted by two further share issues. However, it's still a lot of shares. Club 1872 will do well out of buying them. It's just a question of getting the timing right. Success on the field is expected, commercial revenue is going to increase, share value will go up too.
Nobody knows what or who will come along in the future. The quicker Club 1872 reach their 25% shareholding goal the better.
I was under the impression C1872's shareholding was diluted and presumed this was because they didn't have enough cash to maintain their holding, fair enough if this isn't the case. I remember there was a £1M funding target which was met, was this everything that was required?Club 1872 did take up their allocation at the share issue. They informed Rangers how many shares they wanted, and they bought them. News to me if they didn't.
Not a believer then.The notion that Club 1872 will get to 25% is pure fantasy and the further the share price rises (of course that assumes it will actually rise) the further they will be from that 25%.
Not a believer then.
Their shareholding was diluted. But I think C1872 expected this. They raised 1m for the issue, and informed Rangers how many shares they could buy. I think you have to be pragmatic about how much it is possible to raise from membership and wider support. Reaching the 1m target wasn't easy, and raising more than that would have been very difficult.I was under the impression C1872's shareholding was diluted and presumed this was because they didn't have enough cash to maintain their holding, fair enough if this isn't the case. I remember there was a £1M funding target which was met, was this everything that was required?
In terms of the Easdales themselves, I'm a little confused as to their intentions with trying to sell at 20p. Are they not selling themselves short here? I thought the whole reason DK was dragging this share offer out for so long was the inherent pointlessness of making an offer nobody would be stupid enough to accept?
It is a long term target. It might take a decade, or longer. What is possible is linked to membership numbers. If membership grows, and growth is strong, then it could take less time to reach 25%. Club 1872 with say 30K paying members would generate substantial funds.In fairness mate, and whilst I’m a great believer in Club1872, I think we all recognise that achieving a shareholding if 25% is a huge ask. Realistically, if the target is ever to be achieved, I’d say it was at least a decade - and probably longer - away.
That’s not a criticism, for me it has always been recognised as a long-term goal. We shouldn’t be disappointed by that.
I contribute to club1872 and so do a lot of my family and friends, the ones I’ve spoken too don’t want any of our money going to these 2 shysters.
King can keep diluting them at future share issues that’s the way I want to see it playing out.
It would be a great help if more fans would join those of us who are part of 1872.Club 1872 did take up their allocation at the share issue. They informed Rangers how many shares they wanted, and they bought them. News to me if they didn't.
As I said earlier the decision to buy shares is made after considering a few factors. If the money is there to buy shares off other shareholders and to participate fully in new share issues great, that's what to do. If there isn't enough money to do both then the priorities are the two upcoming new share issues this year and next year.
I think the priorities will have to be the new share issues as funds are unlikely to stretch further.
After both share issues Club 1872 can turn attention to increasing their shareholding. That will require buying shares from other shareholders.
Detest that pair of b*stards with a passion.
It would be a great help if more fans would join those of us who are part of 1872.
Then perhaps we could have a real go at achieving 25%.
Please gentleman, The Krays had class compared to the Sleazedales.
Anytime Blue Pitch Holdings is mentioned I always think about Margarita Holdings.
Did we ever find out who they were
Why would he want to. He has already sold up.What happens if Ashley buys these shares, sorry if this question has already been posed
Do not buy from the chuckle brothers. Leave them with shares that get diluted time after time.Couldn’t C1872 buy some of these ? I’d like them to if they can. Not sure how much is in the funds.
Do not buy from the chuckle brothers. Leave them with shares that get diluted time after time.
I'm sure King said one of the companies was run by criminalsNot to my knowledge mate I’d like to know whom both are.
And money launderingI'm sure King said one of the companies was run by criminals
You're right. Normally Club 1872 could do a deal and take their shares under fan ownership. However, it depends on how much money Club 1872 have at their disposal right now. A new share issue is planned this year, and another issue next year. Club 1872 will likely embark on fund raisers to ensure they can afford to take their allocation in both of these issues. Because substantial sums of money are needed to invest in the new share issues it'll make funding large purchases off other shareholders far less likely this year or next.
Im sure resolutions at AGM allowed it.I didn't realise we could have more share issues in the future I thought that would be an unpopular root giving that current shareholders shares will be diluted
Why????If my Euromillions ticket comes up tomorrow, I'm having them.
It's not pointless. It's really a question of priorities and available funds. Increasing Club 1872's shareholding is of great benefit no matter if the shares bought are new or off other shareholders.
I'd pay them off to f.uck off.Why????
I would put money direct into the club, no way would I fund the Greenock Spivs.
Of course it's a benefit to Rangers. It puts shares under Club 1872's ownership, increasing the support's influence, and ensures those with the club's best interests at heart are involved in big decisions.For Club1872 to buy shares off other shareholders is not a benefit to Rangers FC AND SHOULD BE RESISTED, as a member I want them to buy off Rangers
Can’t be f.ucked reading that article, i can however read this.Go home rats!
I was under the impression C1872's shareholding was diluted and presumed this was because they didn't have enough cash to maintain their holding, fair enough if this isn't the case. I remember there was a £1M funding target which was met, was this everything that was required?
In terms of the Easdales themselves, I'm a little confused as to their intentions with trying to sell at 20p. Are they not selling themselves short here? I thought the whole reason DK was dragging this share offer out for so long was the inherent pointlessness of making an offer nobody would be stupid enough to accept?
He owns just under 1.1 million shares, equivalent to 1.34% of the total. Was noted in the docs issued with the offer letter.Have you any idea how much Ally actually owns? Seems to be mentioned a lot when it comes to things like this, but that could just be because of his profile rather than share size.