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Thanks johnkp-Thats brilliant.
The wee boy standing with the three lads is yours truly looking at the camera
Spurs friendly? Fergie and Penman looking on.1968/69:
Spurs friendly? Fergie and Penman looking on.
Contrast that with most photos of SPFL games now that show mostly empty seats - especially Pittodrie!
Yes, Morton.It's Morton I think from memory.
Same here, mate and I were in the Broomloan that night..pissing down if I remember right? But what a night that was.We played juventus in the second leg in late 1978 and the Copland road was being built, so we were using just three areas one of which I was in ...the old broomloan road end.
Down 1-0 from the first leg in Turin, we won 2-0 with goals from wee doddie & Gordon Smith.
It is septic parkWhisper it mate, but I think this one you posted is Parkhead The pavilion in the distance looks like the one they had rather than our much grander structure.
Same here, mate and I were in the Broomloan that night..pissing down if I remember right? But what a night that was.
The only other time I was in the Broomie, with my Maw , got in for free as my Uncle was on the turnstile there. It was when we played against St Mirren first game of the new season when we unfurled the Championship flag. Can't remember the result. Auld dear was more interested in the supporters getting stretcher'd out for reason unknown,Too much bevies, fighting or sunstroke as it was a belter of a day.
what stairway is that, is it 1 or 19
19what stairway is that, is it 1 or 19
The club didn't get it right. Their (Waddell's) vision was too small. We should have been going for a 60k capacity at least.This is the first time I've ever read this version of events. It was well established that the club intended to modernise the stadium as a result of the Disaster. Yes, it took a bit of time but nothing on that scale had ever been attempted in British football before. As it is, I think the club got it right and gave the club a tremendous advantage going into the 1980's and beyond and the fact their core design has not had to be revisited in 40 years tells you how well it was planned. The financing of it was down by some borrowing, I'm sure, and by money from the Pools. I'm not sure the club had millions of pounds sitting in the bank at this time. I may be wrong.
However, I think you do make a good point about the attitude of the board at that time towards fiscal prudence. Conservative people who ran the club on a tight leash. This is in stark contrast to the shambolic Murray era. There are interesting snippets from AGM's of the time that reveal the support also took a dim view of the club taking on any kind of debt. There is an essay to be written on the expectations and values of the support from the 1960's/1970's in comparison to the modern day where the support openly demands more and more borrowing to buy players. You could even weave it in with the changes in Scotland itself and in public attitudes/values in that time.
To Spurs.I think one of the few games Clive Allan played for Arsenal. They bought him for big money then sold him again just weeks later.
I don't rate my chances in any football quiz against you, but I'm sure he went to Crystal Palace.To Spurs.
Did he not come from Crystal Palace?I don't rate my chances in any football quiz against you, but I'm sure he went to Crystal Palace.
He did done a swap deal him with Kenny SamsonI don't rate my chances in any football quiz against you, but I'm sure he went to Crystal Palace.
Signed from QPR then onto Crystal Palace before going back to QPR then TottenhamDid he not come from Crystal Palace?
Bud you could be right, but he did end up at Spurs.
I think he went to Arsenal for a £1m and left before he played a league game.
I'm also pretty sure we played both Spurs and Arsenal in that close season.
We did. Was it the Spurs game that was the opening of the Broomloan?Did he not come from Crystal Palace?
Bud you could be right, but he did end up at Spurs.
I think he went to Arsenal for a £1m and left before he played a league game.
I'm also pretty sure we played both Spurs and Arsenal in that close season.
We did. Was it the Spurs game that was the opening of the Broomloan?
Didn't he start at QPR before Arsenal? He scored a lot of goals for Spurs the season Gough played for them.
You might be correct on both points bud. I just remember he played at Ibrox for Arsenal and went onto become a stalwart at Spurs. Despite their rivalry, moving from one part of North London to the other didn't start with Sol Campbell.We did. Was it the Spurs game that was the opening of the Broomloan?
Didn't he start at QPR before Arsenal? He scored a lot of goals for Spurs the season Gough played for them.
The Oracle answered us in post 328!You might be correct on both points bud. I just remember he played at Ibrox for Arsenal and went onto become a stalwart at Spurs. Despite their rivalry, moving from one part of North London to the other didn't start with Sol Campbell.
So it could be, he went to CP and then onto Spurs?
Willie Young being another.The Oracle answered us in post 328!
I remember Pat Jennings played for both, and I think Terry Neill too.
I wish my Grandad got to see the place now, he would never believe itSome fantastic photos in this thread. I actually feel sorry for younger fans who never got the chance to witness the old Stadium.
Superb picture
No guesses for this one.
The club didn't get it right. Their (Waddell's) vision was too small. We should have been going for a 60k capacity at least.
Would it have been a graveyard in the early 80s? Yes.
Since Souness, history has shown with STs and even pay at the gate facilities at a reasonable price, we'd have eked out 50k plus attendances, no problem.
And that lack of vision back then will hamper us for the forseeable future.
I wonder what the crowd was that day?Footage of old Ibrox in 1922 with the old original Main Stand and the 'Bovril' stand.....without the Bovril
You make a valid point but my contention is Waddell played regularly in front of 60/70/80,000 plus crowds and even a few 90/100,000+.Unless Waddell and co. had a crystal ball in 1978, no-one could have predicted the season ticket culture of the late 1980's onwards. You know as well as anyone that Rangers could get 80,000 for a big European game or one against the Parkhead club but run of the mill fixtures would maybe be half of that. I have the numbers somewhere but what was Rangers' highest average attendance over a season pre-1978? 40,000 or so? It was peaks and troughs over a season.
Magoo conned the Yahoos that they needed to buy a season ticket for a 60,000 seater stadium when they'd never managed even 40,000 average over a season.
So I'm not convinced that Deedle called it wrong in 1978. And, remember, every seat that was part of the redevelopment adds to the cost of the redevelopment. And nothing like it had ever been undertaken in British football. It was a remarkable achievement.
You can ask why our custodian (ahem), David Edward Murray, didn't expand the stadium properly when he had the means and opportunity to do so. I think that's where the real blame lies.
What was the cause of the fire?Does anyone know?
Rumour at the time was it was wilful fire raising by Tims. There was a similar fire at Hampden days earlier and there was talk of the League Cup Final being switched to Ibrox.What was the cause of the fire?Does anyone know?
Wouldn’t put it past that scum.Rumour at the time was it was wilful fire raising by Tims. There was a similar fire at Hampden days earlier and there was talk of the League Cup Final being switched to Ibrox.
I don't remember the exact figures but our highest average was around 1949-50 with average crowds of 44,000. We now play to a higher average than at any time in our history.Unless Waddell and co. had a crystal ball in 1978, no-one could have predicted the season ticket culture of the late 1980's onwards. You know as well as anyone that Rangers could get 80,000 for a big European game or one against the Parkhead club but run of the mill fixtures would maybe be half of that. I have the numbers somewhere but what was Rangers' highest average attendance over a season pre-1978? 40,000 or so? It was peaks and troughs over a season.
Magoo conned the Yahoos that they needed to buy a season ticket for a 60,000 seater stadium when they'd never managed even 40,000 average over a season.
So I'm not convinced that Deedle called it wrong in 1978. And, remember, every seat that was part of the redevelopment adds to the cost of the redevelopment. And nothing like it had ever been undertaken in British football. It was a remarkable achievement.
You can ask why our custodian (ahem), David Edward Murray, didn't expand the stadium properly when he had the means and opportunity to do so. I think that's where the real blame lies.
Still here buddy - more of a reader than a poster these daysBump. Thanks to Farley 1968 for starting the original thread on the old board,hope you are still amongst us
Must have been a great time to own a bunnet shop!!Contrast that with most photos of SPFL games now that show mostly empty seats - especially Pittodrie!
Could easily be wrong, but that looks like Sandy Archibald, Andy Cunningham and Tommy Cairns in the front row with Alan Morton, and Tommy Muirhead in the back row.I wonder what the crowd was that day?
Think that was Alan Morton in the middle of the front row and Maley with his hat on standing nearest to the camera.