Is it time to start taking Kilmarnock seriously?

New York Bear

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I'm sure there was an identical thread to this about Hearts not so long ago and look how that turned out...
On the other hand, I recall in 2014/15 lots of threads on here saying Hearts will fall away and they never did. Yes, that was the championship but I think we overlook Killie at our peril.
 

Recoba

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After Saturday that could read

Killie 78
Tims 75

They have sustained good form over a calendar year. We'll be under estimating them too because we smashed then in our games with them.
Yea it could be and thats over a seasons worth of games, the chances of them winning the league are remote but they are going to be up there for a while at least.
 

Thebearman

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Clarke is doing a fantastic job there, hopefully they can continue their run at the weekend but doubt it
 

omegaman

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Not really, but . . . it’s December and they’re top, on a fraction of our resources.

Now that points to Clarke being an excellent coach, but is it then fair to say that we should be expecting more from our players and manager?

Admittedly Gerrard doesn’t have Clarke’s experience, but going by his post match comments last night the gaffer clearly feels the players should be better than they have been.

After the final whistle I immediately felt it was a sign we simply lacked the quality to win consistently, but then I saw Kilmarnock above us and thought how the hell have they managed that on a pittance then?

I’m not really having a go at Gerrard - he’s done a remarkable job in a short space of time - and we have to remember Clarke isn’t having to play top class European opponents every other week, but is there an argument to say we could actually have done better?
 

The Crimson King

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As title contenders? Not really, no. But they will no doubt play a vital role in deciding where the title ends up via the 8 games they have against us and the scum. Celtic have already dropped 3 points to them and we've dropped two.

In saying that if they can go to the shitpit and get a win I don't think it will be as much of a joke, but I'm very skeptical they can do anything of the sort
 

Southside_shug

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I drink in a Killie pub.

The fans who drink there are just wanting top 6 to be confirmed before they start thinking of anything else.

i posted on here a couple of weeks back that they should be showing more ambition but they have their feet on the ground....at the moment.
 

Sherlock

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Remember, nobody thought Leicester would win their league and finish above Man Utd., Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal etc., so you never know.
However I don’t think they will finish any better than third.
 

Barryhopez

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I don't think they'll last the pace over the season tbh. However they are playing well, getting decent results and we shouldn't let arrogance get in the way of getting our job done.
 

gersfanal

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The other thing I would like to say is that the professional approach of our management squad will have analysts all over every other club's performances in the Premiership and therefore I am confident that Steven Gerrard will have the answers before kick off !
 

nelster

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For over a year they have performed at the same win level as Rangers and Celtic.

Based on our game with them recently I was relieved to take a draw.

The likely outcome is some of their players are sold in January and they fall away.

It is a perfect situation for us that they head to the Piggery this weekend
 

Supermac1872

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After Saturday that could read

Killie 78
Tims 75

They have sustained good form over a calendar year. We'll be under estimating them too because we smashed then in our games with them.

It would read

Killie 78
Tims 78

Surely?

We should take them seriously, by investing in the squad in January and not relying on loanees to mount a title challenge.
 

pelem

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If they want to be up there challenging they have to go to the piggery and show they are capable of the challenge.
 

All of the Lights

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If they are still there after Christmas period, you’ve got to say yes. They’ve been consistent for over a year now and it’s approaching the half way point, more than just a bright start they’ve made.
 

Jaws II

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Many on here said last year was a fluke under Clarke yet here he is again up near the top.
He is a quality manager at a small club and has them playing solid defensive football and they are picking up points.
They have to be taken seriously and we have to beat them when we play them.

I don’t expect them to get a result against the scum though and I think Celtic will win 1-0 or 2-0.
 

devilman

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They've done very well but I can't see them being a serious contender. Then again, I doubt anyone took Leicester very seriously either.
 

OsoDeMadrid

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Without a doubt as they a top of the league. They might fall away they might not but defo need to take them seriously.

This december is huge and right now they have played 2 and won 2 while we and the tims have dropped points already.
I agree.
Taking them as seriously as I took Hearts 4 weeks ago.
 

randomhero

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Big game on saturday for the tims, sadly at parkhead i can't see them getting beat, hoping i'm wrong.
 

OsoDeMadrid

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We're quite good at belittling other teams when we've shown nothing ourselves to suggest we'll challenge. Their record since Clarke took over is unbelievable and of course they should be taken seriously.
Second, most games played, top goals scored, best goal difference, pumped first 3-1(OG) this season , game in hand to go first. beaten 1-0 at worst in the league.
Killie, eh, shite, scraping the barrel and 1-0s and top because theyve played more league games than those around them and by the skin of their teeth with half the goal difference.

So if we have shown nothing, they've shown the square root of bugger all, multiplied by fuck all squared.
 

bearspaw

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I remember reading a few weeks ago "Finding Hearts on top of the league is like finding an elephant up a tree, you don't know how it got there but you know it won't be there long":

Comparisons to Leicester are nonsense, it's more like if Rotherham looked likely to win the EPL.

What I do look at is how much better a job Clarke is doing than Steve Gerrard or the Tranny. If he replaced Rodgers I would be worried.
 

SasaPapacLoyal54

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We are not in a position to be dismissing them.

They have took more points than us since Clarke took over and sit above us in the league.

They deserve respect.
 

Skyy Bluenose

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They've done very well but I can't see them being a serious contender. Then again, I doubt anyone took Leicester very seriously either.
Playing everyone home and away, versus playing them twice home and away is a different animal. If you look at Leicester that year, by mid-January, they had played most of their tough games. The better teams needed to come to them and their away games were against lower level opposition. A great accomplishment, but it was almost like they snuck through Christmas and had the easiest fixture list remaining.

Killie would still have away games against us and them, as well as trips to Edinburgh and you'd assume Aberdeen after Christmas. If they were still leading after some of those tough away games in January, then you'd need to pay attention. That's almost 10 games away.
 

jaws73

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I like how some people just assume they will get hammered on Saturday. Rogers has NEVER beaten Clarke. That’s not to say he won’t on Saturday but to simply dismiss them out of hand is ridiculous
Kilmarnock have faced Celtic four times since Clarke’s installation, winning twice and drawing the other two.

Celtic have it all to prove in this particular fixture, not the other way around.
 

Coatbridge Chancellor

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Worth noting they have one fit cb for Saturday.
They'll be comfortable top 6 and probably top 4, but there's no chance they'll sustain a title challenge.
 

TN8

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Second, most games played, top goals scored, best goal difference, pumped first 3-1(OG) this season , game in hand to go first. beaten 1-0 at worst in the league.
Killie, eh, shite, scraping the barrel and 1-0s and top because theyve played more league games than those around them and by the skin of their teeth with half the goal difference.

So if we have shown nothing, they've shown the square root of bugger all, multiplied by fuck all squared.
Points win leagues. Since Clarke took over they've got more than us, and have beaten Celtic more times than we've managed in about 14 attempts. We've got absolutely no right to dismiss them.
 

BlueHaze

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Every team should be taken seriously and considered a real threat,Our attitude and approach was all wrong last night we were far to complacent.
 
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