Is this your toughest time supporting Rangers ?

Gallant pioneers said:
It all depends on your age , me at 58 I can’t really mind when they were dominant in the 60’s and 70’s
Obviously I can remember their 8.5 titles and old enough to remember the garbage of the early 80’s

But this right now feels worse , we are In free fall and fighting for second place
Click to expand...
No.

2012 - 2016 Easily the worst for me was when were in the lower divisions and our club nearly went out of existence.

1982 - 1986 2nd worst time for me, only a couple of League Cups and defeat to Aberdeen (twice) in Scottish Cup Finals. Worse still, 4th place finishes and even a 5th place finish in 85/86 (the season pre Souness), when we actually lost 14 league games, 1 more than we won. Our European record was also abysmal.
 
I was far more active during the 2012 crisis and if I say so myself, quite a decent lawyer. I was firing questions at the "board" non-stop. Charles Green had told John Brown (I believe) that selling Ibrox as flats could even be on the table.

David Murray had divested almost everything as seperate legal entities and I wanted to ensure that at least the stadium and training facilities were tied legally to the Football Club.

I eventually got a private interview with Green due to persistence, pointed out the impossibilty of regulatory approval to completely divest the legal entities, and was ensured of one thing - the new umbrella company would include all the fixed assets and bring them into the parent company.

Established for me 3 main things:

1. Murray had been a deflector, trying to protect all his deperciating assets and associated debt
2. Whyte was an opportunist and a self-obsessed idiot with no interest except himself
3. Green was trying to make money for himself and other investors, with some sort of belief he was helping Rangers

Eventually we got the share issue we needed, but it didn't lead to adequate investment. However, in came the 3 Bears and soft loans.

That period might be over from next years accounts but it is up to team performance to close any gap and at this point in time the team is not providing a return on investment domestically, but our European revenue is, so the Board will stick with PC on that basis.
 
Toughest time was the summer of 2012 and wondering when and where Rangers would be playing next and watching the bheast hordes trying to kill our Club.

What we have right now doesn’t go close!
 
Born in 91, the admin years will never be beaten on how bad they were for us. I see older bears always say we have been like this before and came back stronger, I personally don't see it ending anytime soon.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VGM
Not at all.

Mentally I suffered much more in the past.

There’s the old theory that spells of time seem less significant the older you get, because spans of time seem less.

Like I went to Uni in September 2005 and we didn’t win the title till May 2009.

A whole massive chunk of a huge part of your life where we were second best (but only 4 years)

Now I can easily survive a four year fallow period. It will end some day. I know that much

It was like a quarter of my whole time on earth back then. Now it’s…meh, 4 or 5 years
 
The day administration was announced was my worst ever day as a Rangers supporter.
The days of Green the Easdales and that fat pie eating bastard were torture. Watching players walk away from the club and then signings like Sandaza Black Daly Holt etc etc. The year we didn’t get promotion after a battering home and away from Motherwell after missing out on the title to f…..g Hibs. Losing a diddy cup final to Raith Rovers. Losing to Hibs in the SC Final after beating them in the semi. I remember their first 9 in a row I remember the 80’s finishing way down in league tables I remember hammerings from them after we got back into the top flight. Nothing and I mean nothing compares to 2012 I thought we were gone. In terms of cash they are miles in front which will be hard to ever close but we can compete with them with the right manager and a board with balls enough to keep fighting although this board don’t seem to have any.
 
Woodstock Loyal said:
Born in 91, the admin years will never be beaten on how bad they were for us. I see older bears always say we have been like this before and came back stronger, I personally don't see it ending anytime soon.
Click to expand...
The problem nowadays is the younger generation don’t have any middle ground. Things are either the greatest ever or absolute rock bottom. You see it with players. Somebody had a good game, they want £40m for the player. Next week they have a bad game. They are a worthless dud then.

Things are crap right now, but nowhere near some of the past situations. I’ve seen so many football teams over the years go from crap positions to champions and vice versa very quickly. 55 was a perfect example. The press had the tims light years ahead of us before a ball was kicked. We found some form and they had a civil war, game over.
 
Gallant pioneers said:
It all depends on your age , me at 58 I can’t really mind when they were dominant in the 60’s and 70’s
Obviously I can remember their 8.5 titles and old enough to remember the garbage of the early 80’s

But this right now feels worse , we are In free fall and fighting for second place
Click to expand...
I'm 55 and have seen 2 spells where we didn't win the league for 9 years (end of their first 9IAR ) and an 8 year spell from 78-86 but this feels the worst as the gulf in finances now is a major factor and I see no end to the mentally challengeds hoovering up trophy after trophy as we are fucking rudderless in the boardroom and without a major change like when David Holmes brought in Souness it's just going to trundle on being second best .
 
  • Like
Reactions: VGM
I started around 1986 so it was plain sailing for years. 2012 was the worst. The world collapsed. We are still feeling the after-effects. Anyone who thinks half a season of shit away form is anywhere near that is insane. We fought our way back, we're second top and slowly fixing years of mismanagement. We're on the right path. It is going to be a slow process. Also anyone expecting us to win the league right now, when Celtic have had over a decade to forge ahead, is deluded. I actually think most fans get this and the rage on here gives a distorted picture.
 
Not read the rest of this thread but no it isn’t. Finishing 4th and 5th were harder times until we demanded change.
Unfortunately nowadays we have rats. Rats that took advantage of our demise over a decade ago.
We got back up but unfortunately we had more so called Rangers men out to make money. We also had so called businessmen that we all fell for in recent years.
I’ll go as far to say that even the new board members will let us down. I always believed in recent years that after Beale we would sort this out. Have we fck. It’s got worse.
And I’ll also stand by this next statement. The filth are way in front down to the mismanagement of our club. I honestly believe that we need an outsider. A businessman. We’re a fckn mess watching an average filth side dominating with no challenge.
Personally. I hate what football has become.
 
Nope! There’s been worse. We’re second and in Europe. While it’s not good enough, we’ve been significantly worse at various points over the last 40-50 years.
 
No I don’t think I’m my life anything will touch 2012 onwards for a few years

Losing to Raith Rovers in the cup final was one of the worst moments on that period I don’t think were there yet
 
jdm1873 said:
I'm 50 and when I first started going, early 80's we were poor. This has taken it to a new level. I thought going through the division would have been a lot worse but it was enjoyable going to grounds which i had never been to before.

We need change.
Click to expand...
I turn 50 this year, the above sums up my feelings perfectly.
 
I’m 51. My dad took me to my first game in the 80s at Ibrox and we beat Morton 2 nil (Jim Duffy baldy git) and my biggest take from the game was how breathtaking Ibrox was even half full (think the crowd was 20000 if that) but also amazed at how many fans were out to watch a pretty rotten team.
Since then I lived through the highs of the 90’s then the roller coaster of the last 20 odd years.
We are a total mess on and off the pitch just now but I still think back to that game (albeit a happy memory of my dad) and think that was worse than we are now.
 
Last edited:
This has been a poor season but, 2012 to 2015 was worse.

I think a lot of our support have memory holed how bad it was, because it was genuinely embarrassing to be a supporter at times. Life under Whyte, Green and the Spivs felt utterly hopeless, watching McCoist fumble his way up the lower leagues with mercenary arseholes like Kevin Kyle, Francisco Sandaza, Ian Black and Ricky Foster wearing our jersey. Trying to convince yourself that tripe like Perry, Hutton, Murdoch and Aird were the future of the club. All the while, everybody in Scottish football laughed at or mocked us, on a daily basis. Dreading seeing the back and the front pages of the papers on a daily basis. It was genuinely diabolical.

That's the most disconnect I've felt from the club in all my life. Once the initial feeling of defiance wore off, the gravity of the situation just became more and more apparent.

This season alone, I've watched us draw with Spurs and probably should've won the game. We battered Nice in France. We quite comfortably beat the champions of Sweden in their own ground, Malmo had previously been a banana skin for us as a club. Saw us maul the champions of Romania, quite easily, too. Draw with Olympiacos in Athens, who are a season fresh off of lifting the Conference League trophy. If you'd told me that in 2012, that I'd see that again, I wouldn't have believed you. Domestically we've been poor this season, that's beyond a shadow of a doubt, but it's nothing in comparison to the days post Admin and up until the Motherwell play off.
 
Rory_rfc said:
To be honest I would have bitten your hand off to be in the situation we are in now in the summer of 2012. Obviously we have regained our status and badly regressed, that’s the painful bit for me.
Click to expand...

If you’d told me in August 2012 that we’d be sitting here in January 2025 with one league title in 13 to our name, I’d have laughed in your face.
 
Gumbo Pickle Packer said:
i’m not sure anything can come close to the crushing realisation of what hapoened to us after 2012 than turning up at Berwick away and having to accept we had at least 3 years of visits to such decrepit grounds. The “journey” was fucking awful.

People have incredibly short memories
Click to expand...

Remember all the “this is fun” bullshit on Twitter. People trying to convince themselves it was all noble and romantic. The novelty wore off about a fortnight into the season.
 
NsKMaDBaDGer said:
2012 by a country mile - used to waken at 5am every morning just to check if we still had a club to support
Click to expand...
Aye, nothing compares to the very real possibility that we were going to cease to exist.

If I needed a reminder, my former boss - a Bristol Rovers fan - pointed out when we caught up over Christmas how low and moody I'd become back them.

Now, in common with lots of others, the danger is that I'm becoming apathetic. I hummed and hawed over whether to get up at 4 in the morning to watch us on Rangers TV at Dundee last Thursday. I did, and then watched more or less dispassionately as we misplaced what should be simple passes from professionals, looked frail defensively - though Nsiala wasn't as poor as reports on here had suggested he might be - and failed to create chances up front. Again, we simply didn't inspire confidence that we could win away against a supposedly inferior side. I don't think I'll bother with today's game, since it finishes about 1.00 a.m Monday morning on my side of the world.

What Patrick Stewart said yesterday makes sense intellectually. Emotionally, it's hard to feel positive. We've still got Rangers - and for that I'm truly thankful - but precious little hope that things are going to get better off and on the park any time soon.
 
VGM said:
Remember all the “this is fun” bullshit on Twitter. People trying to convince themselves it was all noble and romantic. The novelty wore off about a fortnight into the season.
Click to expand...

It's been terribly romanticised in the last few years. I honestly can't wrap my head around it.

Ashley and co were literally asset stripping us until Dave King and the others rescued us. We were being completely hollowed out as a club. They were attempting to sell and steal anything that wasn't nailed down.
 
Yeah it’s been bad but there’s an easy fix, demand independent referees , all I read on here is, they get less yellow cards, more penalties, get more var decisions than everyone, get the required extra time to score the winning goal, the fücking list is endless…

Look at the facts , they hate us, we hate them, but it was just a game of football to most of us, but it’s not like that for they bastards, they politically and possibly illegally fabricated a scenario which gave them the opportunity where they tried to destroy our club , we seem to forget about that…

Remember when we had decent honest referees , we had big wrong decisions against us over the years with our so called Presbyterian referees , and we just accepted it, but they were always the victims regardless , put private investigators on referees and this seemed acceptable ffs … We gave them the initiative in 2012 in our darkest days and they took it, and yeah they could probably win most games with their resources since then but no, it’s never enough for them… They look at playing and beating us at football as some sort of religious crusade, the over the top sectarian bigoted banners and tifo validates this, makes them feel so good for those 90 minutes .. Yeah, and our club try to have relations with these cünts , get them to fück .. I know a Tim that actually let his adult son get 2 years in jail for his own stupidity , the boy was 100 percent innocent ffs , imagine that…. They are not like you and me, they are a totally different species who need avoiding in every aspect of your lives…

Honestly though, independent referees fixes all the issues I’ve mentioned previously in my post lol…

We need to start focusing on winning the propaganda war against them to, 10,000 fake applications to join the priesthood from the edmiston drive post code would be a laugh..


I fücking hate those cünts …
 
  • Like
Reactions: VGM
Blue114 said:
Yeah it’s been bad but there’s an easy fix, demand independent referees , all I read on here is, they get less yellow cards, more penalties, get more var decisions than everyone, get the required extra time to score the winning goal, the fücking list is endless…

Look at the facts , they hate us, we hate them, but it was just a game of football to most of us, but it’s not like that for they bastards, they politically and possibly illegally fabricated a scenario which gave them the opportunity where they tried to destroy our club , we seem to forget about that…

Remember when we had decent honest referees , we had big wrong decisions against us over the years with our so called Presbyterian referees , and we just accepted it, but they were always the victims regardless , put private investigators on referees and this seemed acceptable ffs … We gave them the initiative in 2012 in our darkest days and they took it, and yeah they could probably win most games with their resources since then but no, it’s never enough for them… They look at playing and beating us at football as some sort of religious crusade, the over the top sectarian bigoted banners and tifo validates this, makes them feel so good for those 90 minutes .. Yeah, and our club try to have relations with these cünts , get them to fück .. I know a Tim that actually let his adult son get 2 years in jail for his own stupidity , the boy was 100 percent innocent ffs , imagine that…. They are not like you and me, they are a totally different species who need avoiding in every aspect of your lives…

Honestly though, independent referees fixes all the issues I’ve mentioned previously in my post lol…

We need to start focusing on winning the propaganda war against them to, 10,000 fake applications to join the priesthood from the edmiston drive post code would be a laugh..


I fücking hate those cünts …
Click to expand...

Having a good night mate?

:D
 
VGM said:
If you’d told me in August 2012 that we’d be sitting here in January 2025 with one league title in 13 to our name, I’d have laughed in your face.
Click to expand...
Me too probably, but then fast forward to the winter of 2014/15 and I would have taken that statistic gladly! This was my lowest point as a Rangers supporter where I reluctantly voted with my feet and could no longer bring myself to attend matches under that board.

At that time I remember regularly wishing I could just go back to worrying about football matters again. Times are hard just now, but ultimately that's where we are.
 
We've all had good times and bad....
Well most of us. There is a generation of supporters out there who know Rangers as nothing other 'than poor'.
 
They won 9IAR whilst we should have been competing far better, we went 11 years without the league trophy with teams featuring club legends and that was without the mitigating factors we’ve faced in the past 12 years.

We had the early 80s, sneaking 5th place on bloody goal difference and we had the post promotion period of darkness where we were guaranteed to absolutely destroyed by Celtic in any game.

We are nowhere near those stages.
 
I’ve been watching Rangers for over 60 years, for the first 50 it was cyclical who was in the ascendancy between us and them.
The last 12 years has been different, even in 2012 I felt we would still get back up and be challenging them eventually but never thought we would get within touching distance again then blow it to slip back as far as we have.
I’m deeply concerned about how we’re ever going to close the gap now - the only way is to start winning titles and getting CL money in but to do that we need to catch them again on the pitch and that requires getting the right management and players in but we’re struggling financially with no sign of that changing, the well has run dry.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VGM
We’re in a right state at the moment but I can’t understand people thinking a fight for 2nd place in the top flight is worse than being in Division 3.
 
For me this is the worst ,back In the 70s and 80s it was bad I was young and full of hope and optimistic, the game has changed and to be successful consistently requires being well run and having significant financial backing ,our current board haven't got the financial muscle to take us forward and become the dominant club in the country .I keep hearing the members of the board are successful businessmen well they're not transferring that over to the running of Rangers in my opinion .I just don't see the end of this cycle of shite we are going through I've become inured to the results and just shrug my shoulders after a defeat or a draw with a Diddy team, I think over the years I've been ground down to accept mediocrity .
 
  • Like
Reactions: VGM
I can live with not being good enough as we’ll eventually turn the corner. I can’t live with the corruption in Scottish football, so yes.
 
Gallant pioneers said:
It all depends on your age , me at 58 I can’t really mind when they were dominant in the 60’s and 70’s
Obviously I can remember their 8.5 titles and old enough to remember the garbage of the early 80’s

But this right now feels worse , we are In free fall and fighting for second place
Click to expand...
Like you I am 58.

The 2-3 years pre Souness was hard going. Circa 8-9000 fans am sure at a game b Morton.
No runs in Europe to enjoy and really struggling week in week out as Dundee Utd and Aberdeen were good teams as well at that time.
Obviously the years in lower leagues were horrendous to watch, but you always hoped for that light at the end of the tunnel.

Now I feel like the light at the end of the tunnel is an express train hurling towards us.

There just seems to be so much “needing fixed” at the whole club from top to bottom.

We need investment, but who will invest in the club just now?

Unless someone, with big big money, comes in and buys out some of the directors I genuinely don’t see what will improve in the next 2-3 years.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Latest posts

Back
Top