It was Dundee’s vote the SPFL claim they never received

[StaunchEnclosure]

So what happens if Dundee clarify and that its still a No vote?

Was this all about settling finance, league positions and reconstruction?

Will the SPFL simply come back again and again until they pass the current league standings and hand out the trophy and monies?

 

[BrunoBear]

I read Dundee's statement and although it's clear they dont support the proposal but they never actually confirmed they voted no in it ? unless I have completely missed that.

Think that's from earlier but as you say it isn't exactly clear what their intentions are.

 

[JD1872]

What is it about this country that it can’t accept a no vote

 

[CooperShoots]

Do you think you can get a bet yet on Dundee getting two cup ties against the Schum next year?

 

[student_loyal]

What is it about this country that it can’t accept a no vote

First NO vote from Dundee

 

[theytriedtokillus]

Helicopter Friday? The fat Japanese must have went toward Dundee with some envelopes.

 

[blue barney]

They are like the SNP. A no vote means yes.

 

[bearspakora]

Calm down.

The SPFL is not a public body subject to review.

I'm not sure of that, mate. Scroll down the page to the paragraph which begins " In Scotland ".

Scottish court rejects judicial review of Mike Ashley SFA fine

www.pinsentmasons.com

 

[PalefaceRedskin]

If Dundee’s No vote is deemed to be a spoilt ballot then the resolution still fails. The requirement is that they get 75% (8 votes) approval from Championship clubs. They haven’t achieved that. It’s not 75% of votes cast or of eligible votes it is, quite simply, 75% of the clubs (8) have to vote Yes.

Do the SPFL get to decide when a ballot is spoiled or not though? It would seem they think they can reject a vote based on a subsequent club statement and then ask them to vote again.

 

[rangers for life]

Would they have "lost" the vote if it was the one THEY WANTED.

I wonder what Gerrard makes of this corruption and those down South etc.

 

[student_loyal]

I'm not sure of that, mate. Scroll down the page to the paragraph which begins " In Scotland ".

Scottish court rejects judicial review of Mike Ashley SFA fine

www.pinsentmasons.com

Only in an error of law - there's no error of law here.

 

[Ibroxroar]

If, as the OP states, the "SPFL and Celtic are now trying to coerce Dundee to change their mind and vote YES" then legal action is inevitable.

 

[bluestory]

42 votes and they still ballz it up. FFS

This is the country that managed to balls up a semi final cup draw remember.

 

[Mearns Bluenose]

Embarrassing stuff.

 

[Beer Belly Loyal]

Dundee FC now 'new' wee h*ns.

 

[Russ H]

If this goes to court surely to god the SPFL would not have a leg to stand on

 

[EndOfDays]

This is all a new low for Scottish football, the people taking part in this should be hounded out the game.

The are a disgrace.

 

[bearspakora]

Only in an error of law - there's no error of law here.

I reckon attempted coercion and intimidation of clubs would breach company law, mate ?

 

[Gairloch]

Dundee implied in their statement that they couldn't vote for the resolution. 'as it stands'. So the SPFL/Celtic will 'clarify' things with a sweetener or two and Dundee will all of a sudden see sense in the proposal.

Corrupt to the core.

 

[student_loyal]

I reckon attempted coercion and intimidation of clubs would breach company law, mate ?

Error of law and breaking the law are two different things.

 

[Jonzin]

Gordon Strachan is high up at Dundee these days is he not? He could easily be swayed.

Forgot about that possibility

 

[Lenzie Loyal]

I can’t see Dundee folding , can you ? It would be far too obvious even by Scottish football standards

I can.

They'll be under relentless pressure as well as being offered all sorts of sweeteners to go with the flow and side with the SPFL.

I think they'll buckle.

 

[sg9375]

Hopefully if it is Dundee they stick to their guns and tell them to f.uck off.

 

[Now and forever]

Why do Dundee not come out and clear this up. If there was a mistake surely they could have resubmited their vote in the same manner as every other club.

Surely to f*ck they are not being nibbled at.

 

[G A K]

That's exactly what's going to happen mate, they've left it wide open for a bribe with that statement imo

 

[sg9375]

This is the country that managed to balls up a semi final cup draw remember.

True True forgot that

 

[MarkieLoyal]

Ok so Dundee send copy and job done

Send it to us and we will deal with it.

 

[Sheuchans]

Ffs surely not

 

[bearspakora]

Error of law and breaking the law are two different things.

Fair enough.

 

[Theresa May]

Surely there are no means of coercing Dundee into changing their vote? It's not like they can propose a 15 team league next year to suit Dundee's interests.

Any reconstruction stands to benefit Utd and ICT?

 

[Echo_1]

So what happens if Dundee clarify and that its still a No vote?

Was this all about settling finance, league positions and reconstruction?

Will the SPFL simply come back again and again until they pass the current league standings and hand out the trophy and monies?

The SPFL will come back again and eventually get what they want through anyway. If Dundee say no then they only have to get 1 club to change their mind and they'll go for another vote.

Regardless of the outcome tonight (or the next few days) it looks like the bheasts will be crowned champions, the league winners will win promotion, the league losers will be protected from relegation this year and possibly no European football as we're going completely against the UEFA grain here.

Really, it's Rangers who miss out the most here. I'm pretty sure the SFA are going to make the bheasts champions while Europe is taken off us. That's the thanks you get for dragging the countries coefficient up, Europe taken away, and bitter rivals handed titles they never won in the first place.

The sooner we get out of Scotland, the better. This will happen over and over again until we move on, if we move on.

 

[4ladsHAD]

Surely there are no means of coercing Dundee into changing their vote? It's not like they can propose a 15 team league next year to suit Dundee's interests.

theyll stop at nothing .

 

[Livibear]

Why do Dundee not come out and clear this up. If there was a mistake surely they could have resubmited their vote in the same manner as every other club.

Surely to f*ck they are not being nibbled at.

Dundee will vote again.

They will vote to support the SPFL resolution.

 

[Dave Angell]

Utterly corrupt and amateurish stuff from the games governing body.

And yet most of Scottish football seem quite content to allow them to continue dragging the game into the gutter.

 

[I'm So Bored With The MSM]

Think that's from earlier but as you say it isn't exactly clear what their intentions are.

In contrast to so much positivity and support, the language in the current proposal condemns clubs to be financially worse off than they already are as we sit here today. This has been difficult to accept.
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We believe that any proposal presented should be comprehensive and consider the sporting AND financial implications for the member clubs.

Fundamentally, we believe that in these exceptional and uncertain times, no member club should be worse off as a result of this proposal than they are today. The current proposal will see member clubs cumulatively have in the region of £3.5-£4 million pounds of lost revenue.

Seems fairly clear to me. The premise of their position is that, in addition to sporting merit, no decisions should have dire financial implications for member clubs. They then discuss how much that loss would be realised across member clubs.

 

[Coopertrueblue]

Dundee and Hamilton asked to vote again

 

[Theresa May]

theyll stop at nothing .

If it transpires that Dundee have changed their vote, after previously submitting a no vote, then surely the legal teams of both Rangers and Hearts would have a field day?

 

[4ladsHAD]

Dundee will vote again.

They will vote to support the SPFL resolution.

surely not although the longer this goes in starting to wonder -if it’s a flat NO then wha ta taking so long?

 

[JW1988]

As we discussed mate, it's a fuc**n racket.

Goalposts moving by the minute.

So Dundee vote against it, told their vote is erroneous (becoming a theme) and now have to resubmit in another format? Have I got it right

 

[A1bertz]

They are petrified UEFA take this out of everybody’s hands and call the season null and void.

They absolutely MUST have this ‘win’ on the books before that happens.

This is exactly the reason for the rush. Someone, close to UEFA (wonder who that could be) has an awareness of what is coming down the road.

 

[4ladsHAD]

Dundee and Hamilton asked to vote again

why ?

 

[Big Negri]

How were the votes conducted?

mentally challenged Pigeon

 

[Lenzie Loyal]

Dundee will vote again.

They will vote to support the SPFL resolution.

Won't be the first time they've handed Celtic the title on a plate.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

Dundee and Hamilton asked to vote again

Where’s this from mate? You know better than to post half a story.

 

[Coopertrueblue]

why ?

Poor joke

 

[boracay ranger]

If they already voted, can't they just show the email they sent as proof then it's job done?

Dundee have been put in a position where they can name their price and taking advantage of that may be more important to them than resubmitting their vote.

 

[Now and forever]

Dundee will vote again.

They will vote to support the SPFL resolution.

The fact they didn't just resubmit straight away is swaying me to that.

They are the ones who can end the confusion at the drop of a hat.

 

[JD1872]

Dundee and Hamilton asked to vote again

Hamilton just so it is less obvious they are trying to bully dundee

 

[4ladsHAD]

Where’s this from mate? You know better than to post half a story.

Even if hamilton changed their vote it still wouldn’t be enough . We need 4 teams from our division and only us and hearts voted against

 

[Valley Bluenose]

Poor joke

Not the night for jokes I’m afraid mate, too many ‘on edge’.