No bother, exhausted those arguments.So you're saying that being very influential in a Championship side makes him a 'great player'?
With regards to what he has accomplished, when I said 'nothing' I suppose I meant in top level football.
I allowed him 'not much' since he helped get a team promoted from the Championship (who didn't even win it, they finished 5th).
You say he improved England in the Euros, I can't say that I agree I'm afraid.
Also, I'd have to disagree that 'displaying an amazing temperament' makes you a great player.
Never said that made him a great player - the temperament skill, but bloody hell it doesn’t half help him. Do you think Alfie would be better with that or not?