Crouchy
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They could but then the money doesn’t go into the club.
Fair point.
I guess, albeit a noise, the system he set up means his votes are pretty irrelevant now.
They could but then the money doesn’t go into the club.
Wasn't Club 1872 formed AFTER regime change ?
It's obvious that his end game is for Club 1872 to pony up for his shares and in return he'll humbly accept their nomination as their representitive on the Rangers board should it ever happen.
King is really not doing himself any favours with these continued outbursts.
The presence and influence of the shadowy Club 1872 director, Chris Graham, is utterly toxic.
I’m not sure what King is trying to achieve here.
There is zero chance Club 1872 in its toxic form will ever get the cash to buy him out.
It’s all very strange.
It says it all about the current state of Club1872 that someone who isn’t a member seems to have more influence than the actual bloody paying members!
If that drink ever comes to pass, be sure to get The Chairman’s name right.DK will always be remembered for bringing the club back to what it should be. And his idea of fan ownership blocking future spivs is completely sound on paper and done with the best intentions. But he is letting himself down here.
1) We don’t wash our dirty linen in public, that is not the Rangers way. Especially not to the Daily Record. He should know better.
2) Those in charge of Club 1872 have lost all credibility. Change is required for the idea of partial fan ownership to have a chance of succeeding, if that is even deemed the best way forward.
3) Dave has always been bullish and completely out of touch with the average working Rangers fan, even from the very start. You could imagine having a pint and chat with Donald Park or John Gilligan, but Dave King would always be on a completely different wavelength to most people.
65m shares at 20p each = £13mDoes anyone know how much King wants for his shares/how much they are valued at?
and is there any possibility of a non C1872 group buying them in the interest of the club and severing ties with him?
It’s sad how his reputation is being self-tarnished.
Do you think that the current board just want the fans to pay their money and shut up?The role of the 'members' (actually, not members but contributors) is to pay their money and shut up. Anyone who steps out of line gets kicked out.
Because the power he thought C1872 had is slipping away and with it, the money making machine that was going to buy his shares and possibly have him as their board rep as a thank youWhat's brought this on exactly? Why is he making more noise than recently?
Do you think that the current board just want the fans to pay their money and shut up?
Was it not accepted as a good idea having an influence in the boardroom from fans to avoid some of probs of the past. Not liking DK and his share manouevers shouldn't mean fans don't organise their shares - do we want a boardroom who justify their decisions and look for wider approval or just be in the dark until we need to boycott or demo against something we don't like?
I am going to assume that you are 100% correct in your thinking as Mr. Dingwall has liked the post. It's a good job Dave King doesn't like Ashley or he would be the first cab off the rank in the scare stories bonanza. I'm sure our gutter press will have plenty more lined up right enough.
I think if DK was entirely motivated by self interest he would sell his shares to the first available buyer. He has publically stated that he doesn't want to do that. He wants his shareholding to be bought by the Rangers support. The only vehicle currently in place is the support owned Club 1872.And no one can claim he’s acting in Rangers best interests here
He’s looking after Dave King and is clearly doing everything he can to upset the board and try and get folk back on side with the sham that is C1872
Think he’s read the room very badly on this
A lot of emotion there but I don't really see the point you are making?I would much rather FF were outside the tent pissing in than seemingly taking the stance it currently is, which seems like obeisance to the current regime. The pile on of DK is hardly surprising. The sycophantic behavior of some to Chris Graham when he was vogue, the brown brogue avatar, the deference paid to every post was vomit inducing as is the current pack-like attack on his character, so it’s no surprise that the man who pulled us from the abyss is now persona non grata to some on here.
Are we really that blind? Do we really want our grandkids to relive what we went through in the bot so distant past? Remember no one was successfuly prosecuted for what was done to the club. No one. The bastards made millions from us. Who are we to say there isn’t another Craig Whyte/David Murray scenario just down the road? King said he didn’t want his kids getting the shares as they have no interest in football. The implication being they’d offload to someone (like Minty did) without thought for the club. I don’t know Graeme Park, but what gives him the right to a board seat, nepotism? Maybe we need to wake up as a support and start putting safeguards in place to protect out club. The current board are great, but neither they, nor us know what’s in the shadows further down the road.
Maybe it wasn’t clear in my post. What action has the current board taken to guarantee the club can never again fall into the hands of shysters? It seems like none, as it also seems that everything is now hunky-dory to the support and we need never fear a repeat of the last ten years. As the old saying goes: “those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it.” It’s my opinion (no more than that) that Dave King, a Bear from Castlemilk, is trying to pint this out to the support. It’s not about the current board, it’s about the next one, or the one two or three generations down the line. The stick the man is getting is way out of line.A lot of emotion there but I don't really see the point you are making?
If there was reason to be wary or angry at the current board I know for certain FF would be at the forefront of the criticism.
There is not (to my knowledge) any such reason currently to doubt their motivation or actions. If there is in the future I believe the support will be vigilant enough to act upon it.
(There are differences in opinion, obviously i.e. safe standing, some occasional unhappiness at some things but nothing than represents a serious problem or an existential threat).
From a hospital bed!At this rate, I fully expect to wake up one morning in the coming days to find he’s had an exclusive sit-down with Keith Jackson.
A lot of emotion there but I don't really see the point you are making?
If there was reason to be wary or angry at the current board I know for certain FF would be at the forefront of the criticism.
There is not (to my knowledge) any such reason currently to doubt their motivation or actions. If there is in the future I believe the support will be vigilant enough to act upon it.
(There are differences in opinion, obviously i.e. safe standing, some occasional unhappiness at some things but nothing than represents a serious problem or an existential threat).
No he didn't.Him ,James Traynor banned Chris McLaughlin
Does anyone know how much King wants for his shares/how much they are valued at?
and is there any possibility of a non C1872 group buying them in the interest of the club and severing ties with him?
I’m happy to stick my neck out here and say the club is in safe hands with Douglas Park involved mate.I would much rather FF were outside the tent pissing in than seemingly taking the stance it currently is, which seems like obeisance to the current regime. The pile on of DK is hardly surprising. The sycophantic behavior of some to Chris Graham when he was vogue, the brown brogue avatar, the deference paid to every post was vomit inducing as is the current pack-like attack on his character, so it’s no surprise that the man who pulled us from the abyss is now persona non grata to some on here.
Are we really that blind? Do we really want our grandkids to relive what we went through in the bot so distant past? Remember no one was successfuly prosecuted for what was done to the club. No one. The bastards made millions from us. Who are we to say there isn’t another Craig Whyte/David Murray scenario just down the road? King said he didn’t want his kids getting the shares as they have no interest in football. The implication being they’d offload to someone (like Minty did) without thought for the club. I don’t know Graeme Park, but what gives him the right to a board seat, nepotism? Maybe we need to wake up as a support and start putting safeguards in place to protect out club. The current board are great, but neither they, nor us know what’s in the shadows further down the road.
That 13 - 16 million is better invested in new share issues as and when the club requires it.What’s his total shareholding?
65,000,000 shares? Probably have to pay 20/25p a share.
£13-16m.
Wonder if the others could find a way?
As already stated above DK has misread the room. Seems you have joined him.Banning pundits is embrassing he is correct there.
We laugh them at them hating Boyd. Yet we banned Sutton from our ground.
He’s voted against one of the current board so that hardly stacks up, does it?Maybe it wasn’t clear in my post. What action has the current board taken to guarantee the club can never again fall into the hands of shysters? It seems like none, as it also seems that everything is now hunky-dory to the support and we need never fear a repeat of the last ten years. As the old saying goes: “those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it.” It’s my opinion (no more than that) that Dave King, a Bear from Castlemilk, is trying to pint this out to the support. It’s not about the current board, it’s about the next one, or the one two or three generations down the line. The stick the man is getting is way out of line.
Sounds to me that Dave Kings batting for his mate Chris Graham here.
To be fair to Chris Jack, he’s hardly going to ignore Dave King’s call is he?And Chris Jack is batting for his mate Dave King.
That might be what he's fishing for.Time the current board made Mr King an offer for his shares and allowed him to go back to focusing on his South African business interests.
I have nothing but admiration and gratitude for what he has done in saving the club but it's almost like he's acting the spoilt child now and doesn't like being out of the spotlight.
And Chris Jack is batting for his mate Dave King.