Jim Baxter’s Scotland Shirt

[theryesider]

Who to believe.
Row erupts over Jim Baxter's '67 Wembley Scotland shirt https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-64496296

 

[JerseyLoyalist]

I’m surprised they are still going ahead with the auction.

 

[bkkbear]

More about in the daily paper thread.

 

[TurnTheTide]

Interesting story, you’d hope the one we had in our possession was the legit one!

 

[HowdenEnder]

It seems clear from the photos that the shirt up for auction isn't the one Baxter is wearing on the pitch, the cuffs are different.

 

[CooperBlue]

I think the auction also had a Laudrup cup final shirt that stated the pattern didn’t match photos from the game, it may have been an unworn spare though.

 

[Kingging]

You don't have to be an expert to see it's a different shirt. Maybe one that Ball swapped with Baxter at another game but clearly not the 67 shirt. If McTears are guaranteeing the provenance they are leaving themselves open for a lawsuit methinks

 

[Sancus]

Baxter once said he must have been some player because he apparently wore 50 shirts in that game.

 

[miraculous]

shirt pulled from auction

 

[Valley Bluenose]

Three shirts on the go now purportedly worn by Baxter in that match. I bet you Slim Jim dished out dozens, each allegedly worn that day.

 

[Sam English]

No one would've paid top dollar for the jersey that was up for auction, as the authenticity was in serious doubt.

 

[JerseyLoyalist]

shirt pulled from auction

Had to happen.

 

[Otto Bear]

Baxter once said he must have been some player because he apparently wore 50 shirts in that game.

Where did you hear or see that mate? Asking as a family member has a vested interest in this.

 

[WinkieWATP]

Interesting story, you’d hope the one we had in our possession was the legit one!

Is that the one the boys from Falkirk have?

 

[dublinbluenose]

Baxter once said he must have been some player because he apparently wore 50 shirts in that game.

He said at a dinner when his supposedly Scotland shirt he wore at wembley was an auction prize.

 

[Otto Bear]

Is that the one the boys from Falkirk have?

No, the McTear one.

 

[Otto Bear]

He said at a dinner when his supposedly Scotland shirt he wore at wembley was an auction prize.

Any links or anything reporting that? I presume not?

 

[dublinbluenose]

Three shirts on the go now purportedly worn by Baxter in that match. I bet you Slim Jim dished out dozens, each allegedly worn that day.

I have a funny story in regard to a match wearing shirt during the furore over our Dublin loyal banner to try and smooth things over Kenny Scott and Jim Hannah came over to Dublin with the Scottish cup.Kenny Scott presented a signed steven Davis top which he presented as “Steven Davis was wearing this jersey on Saturday”.we beat Hamilton 8-1 I think it was and I couldn’t help notice seeing the goals that Steven Davis was wearing a long sleeved jersey and the shirt we got was short sleeved.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Any links or anything reporting that? I presume not?

Heard it years ago on off the ball.Tam Cowan was sitting beside him at the dinner when he said it.

 

[frankie and benji]

I had thought the strip had come straight from Ball's family held by them since the game .It didn't , too many links which can't be verified.

 

[Sancus]

Where did you hear or see that mate? Asking as a family member has a vested interest in this.

Tam Cowan told it the story. He was sitting beside Baxter at a sporting event and when the 67 shirt came up for auction, Baxter seemingly turned to Cowan and said the 50 shirts quote.

Just saw that @dublinbluenose has said the exact same.


Speaking to the former Rangers and Scotland legend at a sports dinner just months before he passed away, Jim joked about the number of times his "genuine" dark blue top from the 3-2 game at Wembley kept appearing at auctions.
He said: "You know, Tam, I must have played even better against England than I first thought. After all, I was wearing about 35 jerseys at the time..."

Getting Shirty Over Auction

THE famous No.10 shirt worn by Pele when Brazil beat Italy 4-1 in the 1970 World Cup final has just been sold at auction for £64,000.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk

 

[hhss]

This is similar to Colin Stein No.9 shirt from Barcelona. Seen two of them, one in a house and one at an auction years ago, and heard about another person claiming they have the genuine shirt.

 

[Otto Bear]

I had thought the strip had come straight from Ball's family held by them since the game .It didn't , too many links which can't be verified.

There is no way the shirt up for auction is the real shirt. The cuffs are obviously not the same.

Baxter Scotland shirt pulled from auction after authenticity doubts

The shirt said to be Jim Baxter's from the legendary 1967 Scotland victory now has "question marks".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Amity75]

I guess we'll never know which is the authentic one and Baxter would be absolutely loving it.

 

[Clicker]

There must be other Scotland shirts from that Wembley game in existence, could they not be compared in some way label, dimensions of different parts eg cuffs, to confirm authenticity?

 

[Cuparman]

Where did you hear or see that mate? Asking as a family member has a vested interest in this.

Christ, don't tell me they're auctioning his vests as well!

 

[150years]

This is similar to Colin Stein No.9 shirt from Barcelona. Seen two of them, one in a house and one at an auction years ago, and heard about another person claiming they have the genuine shirt.

All the while its in Colin's hoose!

 

[Swindon Gers]

Rumours of a made in Turkey label on the collar have yet to be confirmed

 

[Papatango]

I guess we'll never know which is the authentic one and Baxter would be absolutely loving it.

Always worth the DNA fee to have it tested if you have one. Quids in if you get a positive result.

 

[CoplandRoad]

Baxter swapped his shirt with Alan Ball.
So who did he give shirt to ?

 

[BSPECIAL]

There must be hundreds or thousands of these fake football jerseys sold every year. If the buyer thinks it genuine fair enough.

 

[EC54]

Would never believe something being sold as authentic no matter what gaurantees they gave, probably hundreds of cases like this all over the world, people being conned. It would have to be off the players back personally to me

 

[Otto Bear]

Baxter swapped his shirt with Alan Ball.
So who did he give shirt to ?

Not according to the BBC he didnt

 

[CoplandRoad]

Not according to the BBC he didnt

BBC are wrong then.

 

[Baloo72]

Baxter swapped his shirt with Alan Ball.
So who did he give shirt to ?

When was that, in the tunnel after the game?

 

[TheMarbleStaircase]

I have a funny story in regard to a match wearing shirt during the furore over our Dublin loyal banner to try and smooth things over Kenny Scott and Jim Hannah came over to Dublin with the Scottish cup.Kenny Scott presented a signed steven Davis top which he presented as “Steven Davis was wearing this jersey on Saturday”.we beat Hamilton 8-1 I think it was and I couldn’t help notice seeing the goals that Steven Davis was wearing a long sleeved jersey and the shirt we got was short sleeved.

It happened at a rangers supporters club charity dance thing my mum was at a number of years ago, the people doing the auction raffle stuff said they had a signed top from one of the winning cup final teams from when Barry Ferguson was captain at the time, I don’t know if one of the couples sitting at her table won it or had a look at the shirt and became suspicious with the signatures, the couple where actually friends with Ferguson and his mrs so knew them well and noticed straight away that it wasn’t Barry’s signature. They confronted the people doing the auction raffle thing and apparently they became a bit sheepish and never knew what to say.

 

[Grimsdale]

60 grand for a football strip..some folk are just mental.

 

[Clicker]

Alan Ball must have hung about the tunnel for a while to swop jerseys by the time Jim made it through the fans on the pitch.

 

[jimb366]

There is no way the shirt up for auction is the real shirt. The cuffs are obviously not the same.

Baxter Scotland shirt pulled from auction after authenticity doubts

The shirt said to be Jim Baxter's from the legendary 1967 Scotland victory now has "question marks".

www.bbc.co.uk

Yes. Good call. The acid test is possibly comparing it with other "known" ones from the game?

 

[CoplandRoad]

When was that, in the tunnel after the game?

At some point after as he had ownership of the match worn strip.

 

[mdingwall]

 

[TCWNS1872]

Tartan Specials bargain of £1600? Look at the badge and look at the photo of Baxter.

Did Frank Abagnale authenticate it for him?