Joe Aribo has not turned down a new Rangers contract

RonnydB14 said:
With our place in the food chain we can’t be allowing players to walk away for nothing though. £10m for Aribo this summer or £0 next? It’s pretty obvious what we have to do
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It's saying he's away for medical £6 m up front they got a bargain
 
Japandroid said:
The remaining length of Aribo's contract and the release clause are dictating the fee. If the release clause is £10m then no team is going to bid £15m or £20m just because they think that's what he's worth. Man City just signed Erling Haaland for £51m because that was the amount of his release clause when they'd probably be looking at least three times that without it.

We're also not the only team to have players run down their contracts believe it or not. Liverpool went into this summer with both Mane and Salah coming into their final year. Mane was sold for a relatively low fee and Salah has renewed. Look at the Pogba situation as well. Goes to Juventus for nothing, United buy him back for £89m, he runs down his contract and goes back to Juventus for free again, having been paid a fortune in wages. Imagine that was one of our supposed star players who did that. :D

I'm just glad that we had the release clause in for Aribo or we'd be getting offers of ten bob and a packet of Haribo's.
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If the release clause is 10m but we're only getting 6m with the POSSIBILITY of more at some unknown later date, what's the clause actually got to do with anything?
It seems like they've offered 6m and, knowing we can't force him to stay, we've accepted it.
 
Hateley's Mullet said:
If the release clause is 10m but we're only getting 6m with the POSSIBILITY of more at some unknown later date, what's the clause actually got to do with anything?
It seems like they've offered 6m and, knowing we can't force him to stay, we've accepted it.
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My point on the release clause was that no one is going to offer more than that amount.

It looks like we've accepted a deal that's a gamble for us, but that we hope will eventually be worth more than the £10m that was the release clause. Time will tell on whether we win or lose.
 
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mdingwall said:
Joe Aribo has not turned down a new Rangers contract

Picking up traction is the line he turned down a Rangers contract and that he will be leaving.

Record
Football Scotland
Talksport Yesterday (Alex crook)

It's untrue.
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Surely we offer all players on final year new deals.
If they don't want to sign, put them on the transfer list.
It's that simple.
 
Ibroxroar said:
6 Million up front is a pathetic fee for a player of Aribo's ability. Celtic sold Frimpong and Wanyama for 12 Million each. We just don't do well selling players, Paterson possibly being an exception.
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Neither Frimpong nor Wanyama were in the last 12 months of their contract. It's not the same.
 
Heisenberg said:
Ok, what about ajer and Édouard?

Southampton have got an unbelievable deal here.
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There's no coherence or plan with our recruitment team

If they were serious about a player trading model, Aribo would have been signed up to an extra year last season with a big pay rise - which would have been worth it as we'd be able to command the £12-15m he's actually worth now

We want to be able to make a good profit on our younger players but there's no evidence anyone involved in negotiations has a clue what they're doing - there's no long term planning or sign of any competence in that department
 
KensingtonBlue said:
There's no coherence or plan with our recruitment team

If they were serious about a player trading model, Aribo would have been signed up to an extra year last season with a big pay rise - which would have been worth it as we'd be able to command the £12-15m he's actually worth now

We want to be able to make a good profit on our younger players but there's no evidence anyone involved in negotiations has a clue what they're doing - there's no long term planning or sign of any competence in that department
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That only works if the player is willing to sign an extension.
 
KensingtonBlue said:
There's no coherence or plan with our recruitment team

If they were serious about a player trading model, Aribo would have been signed up to an extra year last season with a big pay rise - which would have been worth it as we'd be able to command the £12-15m he's actually worth now

We want to be able to make a good profit on our younger players but there's no evidence anyone involved in negotiations has a clue what they're doing - there's no long term planning or sign of any competence in that department
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There's a glaring fault in your plan in that you can't force a player to sign a contract.
 
A mate of mine who is a Southampton fan firstly can’t believe Aribo would choose to leave Rangers for them, but actually laughed at the reported fee. The sort of money we’re talking about is effectively a free transfer to an EPL side. Clearly Southampton want him, so agreeing to anything other than the supposed release clause sounds like moving to the side too quickly in a game of chicken.
 
Japandroid said:
The remaining length of Aribo's contract and the release clause are dictating the fee. If the release clause is £10m then no team is going to bid £15m or £20m just because they think that's what he's worth. Man City just signed Erling Haaland for £51m because that was the amount of his release clause when they'd probably be looking at least three times that without it.

We're also not the only team to have players run down their contracts believe it or not. Liverpool went into this summer with both Mane and Salah coming into their final year. Mane was sold for a relatively low fee and Salah has renewed. Look at the Pogba situation as well. Goes to Juventus for nothing, United buy him back for £89m, he runs down his contract and goes back to Juventus for free again, having been paid a fortune in wages. Imagine that was one of our supposed star players who did that. :D

I'm just glad that we had the release clause in for Aribo or we'd be getting offers of ten bob and a packet of Haribo's.
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Posted a few times on the thread but players benefit well from running a contract down. Chelsea lost two important centre halves for nothing this year, it happens.
 
Leif Erikson said:
There's a glaring fault in your plan in that you can't force a player to sign a contract.
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That's why you plan ahead

- If he's definitely not going to sign an extension, you sell him with 2 years on his contract when you're going to maximise the fee

- Or, you offer him enough money to sign a new deal

You don't just let them contract run down and claim nothing could be done. People acting like "ah well" it happens, yes - bad decisions happen all the time in boardrooms, but that's not an inevitability if you don't have incompetent people running the show
 
KensingtonBlue said:
That's why you plan ahead

- If he's definitely not going to sign an extension, you sell him with 2 years on his contract when you're going to maximise the fee

- Or, you offer him enough money to sign a new deal

You don't just let them contract run down and claim nothing could be done. People acting like "ah well" it happens, yes - bad decisions happen all the time in boardrooms, but that's not an inevitability if you don't have incompetent people running the show
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And that only works if there is a buyer. You think Liverpool, Chelsea etc have incompetents running the show? Bayern with Lewa etc? This happens the world over and at every level. The power lies with players.
 
giogaddi said:
And that only works if there is a buyer. You think Liverpool, Chelsea etc have incompetents running the show? Bayern with Lewa etc? This happens the world over and at every level. The power lies with players.
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It‘s happened too often to us compared with Celtic.

That means there’s a wider issue.
 
deedle said:
It‘s happened too often to us compared with Celtic.

That means there’s a wider issue.
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It's happening all over the world.

It happened to them with Ajer, Christie and Edouard last summer. I believe its happened with Rogic and Bitton this summer too.

I'm not sure it is the case it happens more often with us than them tbh.
 
Leif Erikson said:
There's a glaring fault in your plan in that you can't force a player to sign a contract.
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The problem is we don’t have a track record of selling players. If we did, we could easily say they want to add a few more years to his contract but they will accept bids from this team or that team should they come in, and it will be beneficial to both player and club.

With no record of selling players, nobody is going to sign up to a longer contract if they genuinely had aspirations of playing elsewhere.
 
6m plus add ons to 10m, plus a fat sell on percentage is fine with me, for a player we bought for 300k and who scored for us in a European final. Also, he's a good player, but he's no Alex Lowry.
 
No wonder everyone is RAGING!

£6 million is a disgrace!

Has Ross Wilson forgotten that he doesn’t work for Southampton anymore!!!!
 
Here’s how this works….

At time of sale - the fee gets escalated on here.

“It’s £10m plus add ons for Aribo”

“Great business to get £16m for Patterson”

At the end of the summer and next year when we look back and reflect on our income and think why our transfer fees spent are minimal, we get the exact same posters jumping to the other end of the spectrum.

“But it was only potentially £10m for Aribo. Most likely £6m with never ever add ons”

“But we never got £16m for Patterson. That’s just hysteria and was what the over all deal was potentially worth. Was more like £10m”

:))
 
BulletProofBear said:
6m plus add ons to 10m, plus a fat sell on percentage is fine with me, for a player we bought for 300k and who scored for us in a European final. Also, he's a good player, but he's no Alex Lowry.
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It is mate…. Depending what the add ons are.

If it’s an extra £4m if Southampton win a cup or finish in the top - then not so much.

If it’s an extra £4m if Southampton avoid relegation - then yes it is decent.
 
Have the clubs actually released any details ? If not its all just speculation at the moment. Surely if he has a 10 million release clause we wont accept 6 million, or at least i would hope not.
 
If, and it's a big if, we didn't offer Aribo a contract then we weren't really showing a great desire to have him here, even if we had a fair idea of his intentions; in that sense it would have been negligent not to offer him a contract. I remember reading how Graeme Souness tried so hard to persuade players to join Rangers, at the very least we should have offered Aribo a contract, and shown a desire for Aribo to stay; which we probably did so to be fair, and it is hopefully inaccurate that we didn't so. Hopefully we are showing a great deal of desire for Morelos and Kent to stay as well, and have their futures at Rangers; doing everything we can to persuade them to stay.
 
It’s a pathetic fee if true. You could argue we would be better keeping him at that figure as he could make the difference in European qualification and progress. Which would be worth much more than that, and then him possibly helping in a league win would see us straight into the CL next season.
 
deedle said:
It‘s happened too often to us compared with Celtic.

That means there’s a wider issue.
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I'm struggling to think of one other player this has happened to us before with.

We haven't sold enough players recently for there to be a pattern. Aribo is the only one I can think of who had a release fee and/or was in the last year of his contract.
 
A think lessons will
Be learned for future signings to offer them a 4 year deal with a club option for a further year on a 20% wage wise to avoid this scenario again as usually first year bed in season then 2 & 3 you see the best of them and before you know it last year so club option on the 5th is the way to go as rangers can’t keep upping the ante on extensions
 
Bluetou said:
Have the clubs actually released any details ? If not its all just speculation at the moment. Surely if he has a 10 million release clause we wont accept 6 million, or at least i would hope not.
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This is my thinking also.

Over the past few years not a sniff gets out of the club. Look at Goldson last year. There was nothing being leaked.

Why now are we expected to believe that PITK are privy to the intricacies of this deal?

I’ll wait until something is official
 
Gary said:
Have we ever got more for a player whose contract is gong to run out?
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Us? No. Other Scottish teams have certainly got more for players of inferior quality.

If we have received less than the £10million release clause as this deal then it is diabolical. No amount of turd polishing like this will change that.
 
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