Really, have a miss read it? How much are they giving? And is it every single player?Classy gesture.
According to the statement they've been in discussions for the last week. As I said, timing.Sorry. I’m confused. Are the players making some kind of donation to this fund or are they just fronting this new charity in a PR exercise to make themselves look a little less greedy?
According to the statement they've been in discussions for the last week. As I said, timing.
Reading between the lines it would seem the players are collectively pissed off about the growing calls for them to surrender big parts of their salaries to negate the need for clubs to use the Government furlough scheme.
Instead, let's make a donation to the NHS. I could be completely wrong, they might yet do both.
If I am reading this correctly does it mean instead of taking a pay cut to help rank and file employees at their respective clubs, instead they will each donate money to the NHS charities? Of which the amounts are not stated?
Not saying as a standalone gesture it is not commendable, of course it is. But the timing is highly suspect.
All the statement says is “we’ve created a fund”. No detail as to how many players will contribute, how much they will contribute, how long they will contribute for or if the details of any contributions will be made public so we can identify those who are too greedy and selfish to give up part of their obscene pay.
I’ll save any compliments until they provide the above. Their actions so far show the only thing they fear more than losing money is bad publicity; this nothing statement and the inordinate amount of time it has taken them to get to this stage proves it.
This type of gesture gives more back than taking a %wage cut ever does.
It also means the tax is paid on the full salary and the fixed donation goes to the charities.
And the donation from each player is tax deductible!This type of gesture gives more back than taking a %wage cut ever does.
It also means the tax is paid on the full salary and the fixed donation goes to the charities.
As already covered, them taking a paycut wouldnt save normal employees. The players quite quickly vcocked onto the fact that even if they took a 20-30% paycut, many clubs were going use the governments money to furlough staff. Therefore the only beneficiaries is the clubs billionaire owners.If I am reading this correctly does it mean instead of taking a pay cut to help rank and file employees at their respective clubs, instead they will each donate money to the NHS charities? Of which the amounts are not stated?
Not saying as a standalone gesture it is not commendable, of course it is. But the timing is highly suspect.
The timing ain't suspect. They wanted to contribute all along.Great gesture however It doesn’t say how much % they are donating and sorry but like a few others say it’s a bit suspect in the timing
Some folk are great at spending other people’s money.You get the impression that even if players gave away 100% of their salary it still wouldn't be enough for some.
It was revealed at the first mention of players taking wage cuts that this initiative was in progress, specifically mentioning Jordan Henderson as the driving force behind it.According to the statement they've been in discussions for the last week. As I said, timing.
Reading between the lines it would seem the players are collectively pissed off about the growing calls for them to surrender big parts of their salaries to negate the need for clubs to use the Government furlough scheme.
Instead, let's make a donation to the NHS. I could be completely wrong, they might yet do both.
Does someone publish a list of the charitable donations you make? Guys are doing their but, cant that just be good enough?All the statement says is “we’ve created a fund”. No detail as to how many players will contribute, how much they will contribute, how long they will contribute for or if the details of any contributions will be made public so we can identify those who are too greedy and selfish to give up part of their obscene pay.
I’ll save any compliments until they provide the above. Their actions so far show the only thing they fear more than losing money is bad publicity; this nothing statement and the inordinate amount of time it has taken them to get to this stage proves it.
Surely it would be better for the players to pay a % of their Net Pay into the NHS or us that too simple?if they paycut then less tax and ni is received by the state
You know that for a fact? Where’s the evidence?The timing ain't suspect. They wanted to contribute all along.
1) I’m not a public figure so no-one is interestedDoes someone publish a list of the charitable donations you make? Guys are doing their but, cant that just be good enough?
You have no right to know what an individual is donating.All the statement says is “we’ve created a fund”. No detail as to how many players will contribute, how much they will contribute, how long they will contribute for or if the details of any contributions will be made public so we can identify those who are too greedy and selfish to give up part of their obscene pay.
I’ll save any compliments until they provide the above. Their actions so far show the only thing they fear more than losing money is bad publicity; this nothing statement and the inordinate amount of time it has taken them to get to this stage proves it.
I have the right to criticise them if they make a big song and dance about donating yet then become all coy over how much they donate. They can’t have it both ways. Unlike you, I don’t believe they are above criticism.You have no right to know what an individual is donating.
Them being high profile memebers of the public does not make them public property.
I have the right to criticise them if they make a big song and dance about donating yet then become all coy over how much they donate. They can’t have it both ways. Unlike you, I don’t believe they are above criticism.
He doesn't need to, Bono and Geldof will soon ride to the rescue, oh wait a minute this is Britain, we don't count.Which group of rich people will Matt Hancock publicly go after next ?
None I suspect.
I refer you to my previous answer. I’ll criticise them for not making their donations public when they are happy to publicise the creation of the fund. Otherwise, this could just be seen as a big PR stunt to get the press of their backs whilst allowing them to keep the vast majority of their money. Surely even a players’ apologist such as you would agree?Anyone can be criticised, that's fine. You have no right to know who much any individual is donating of their own salary, high profile person or not.
This type of gesture gives more back than taking a %wage cut ever does.
It also means the tax is paid on the full salary and the fixed donation goes to the charities.
Surely it would be better for the players to pay a % of their Net Pay into the NHS or us that too simple?
Jack Dorsey has just pledged 25% of his total fortune.. now that’s what you call a commitment.Some folk are great at spending other people’s money.
They’ll scoff at any donations made by the rich because it doesn’t take up a significant portion of their wealth, yet at the same time contribute nothing themselves.
How can you possibly know that? Bare in mind that taking a wage cut may prevent these clubs having to furlough hundreds of non playing staff, so tax payer would not be footing bill for 80% of these people's wages. There are 20 EPL clubs. Lets say they furlough an average of 200 employees each on 20k per year - That works out at just under a £15 million bill for taxpayer for a 12 week period, which will very likely be even longer. Are you expecting these players to collectively donate more than £15 million over the same period?
Of course they should be able to keep the "vast majority" of their money, why on earth should they not?I refer you to my previous answer. I’ll criticise them for not making their donations public when they are happy to publicise the creation of the fund. Otherwise, this could just be seen as a big PR stunt to get the press of their backs whilst allowing them to keep the vast majority of their money. Surely even a players’ apologist such as you would agree?
As already covered, them taking a paycut wouldnt save normal employees. The players quite quickly vcocked onto the fact that even if they took a 20-30% paycut, many clubs were going use the governments money to furlough staff. Therefore the only beneficiaries is the clubs billionaire owners.
reputable news papers reporting itYou know that for a fact? Where’s the evidence?
I can’t read all of the article. What I can see is simply the players refusing a 30% pay cut without being able to suggest an alternative (at that time). Hardly the sign of people who were “desperate” to do something.reputable news papers reporting it
PL’s hopes of 30% wage cut dashed after ‘utterly inconclusive’ player meeting
PFA and clubs at loggerheads over the proposed 30 per cent reduction of player wages, with no clear consensus reached...theathletic.co.uk
David Ornstein the most reliable journo in english football it would seem