Jordan Jones - I’d like to see him get more game time.

Toyota blue

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I want him to rip Killie to pieces but I just don’t think he will put the effort in .
It’s not until he’s at a Barnsley or like that he will realise what he’s not got .
 

Walker54

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Genuinely thought he'd be right back in the frame after his performance and goal against Motherwell, was really gutted to see he was left out the Europa League squad.
 

NDC bear forever

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He should start at Killie.

Plenty of experience of playing well on that pitch. Some fresh legs after Thursday’s game also wouldn’t be a bad thing
I really can’t agree with people saying he should start at Killie. His best attribute is pace which is unfortunately more or less useless away to teams who sit deep. These games requires players with close control and an eye for a pass. Tailor made for your Aribos and Hagis of the world.
 

KGR98

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A bit of an exaggeration. Kent has done very little in the last 5 games. Plenty effort but no substance. Jones has a very similar style and should really be given a chance.
Kent at his best is miles ahead of Jones and Barker at their best is the point I'm trying to emphasize
 

Mackania

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To be honest Greg Stewart has barely ever put a foot wrong when called upon, but seems to be behind Jones and Barker.
Agreed. The guy has never let us down. Works hard, always has nice touches, has taken most of his chances. I don't think he's had a fair crack of the whip.
 

GF7

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Agreed. The guy has never let us down. Works hard, always has nice touches, has taken most of his chances. I don't think he's had a fair crack of the whip.
There are better players than him in the squad unfortunately - Hagi, Aribo, Roofe and Kent mainly. Jones and Barker have pace which Greg doesn't which is the only reason they are ahead of him in the squad I'd think, Gerrard has always spoken highly of him too.

Wouldn't mind loaning him out in January
 

Stan the Man

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A bit of an exaggeration. Kent has done very little in the last 5 games. Plenty effort but no substance. Jones has a very similar style and should really be given a chance.
Completely agree Kent needs resting he has been in in a barren patch for a while now and Jones could help ease the burden on him domestically
 

Mackania

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There are better players than him in the squad unfortunately - Hagi, Aribo, Roofe and Kent mainly. Jones and Barker have pace which Greg doesn't which is the only reason they are ahead of him in the squad I'd think, Gerrard has always spoken highly of him too.

Wouldn't mind loaning him out in January

Those four are the top players, for sure, however it's not prevented Jones and Barker from getting relatively decent game time this season. Aside from the game in Gibraltar I can't really remember Stewart playing. I feel for him, Jones let the manager and team down last year, Barker has had one or two good games max from memory yet gets game regularly and Stewart hardly gets on the bench.
 

Raumdeuter

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Barker is more versatile than Jones for those expressing confusion.

Jones is very much a get to the byline winger and we don't play with them, we haven't for a while. In theory if he could be coached into being more cute in the final third he could be very effective for us but right now he shouldn't really be starting too many games.
 

Raumdeuter

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Completely agree Kent needs resting he has been in in a barren patch for a while now and Jones could help ease the burden on him domestically
This is a bit of a myth to be honest, just because his numbers are down doesn't mean he isn't contributing in the final third, he is still vital in building up our attacking play.
 

irvine96

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Neither Jones or Barker are near good enough for Rangers.
Would be happier if Stewart got more game time
 

GF7

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Those four are the top players, for sure, however it's not prevented Jones and Barker from getting relatively decent game time this season. Aside from the game in Gibraltar I can't really remember Stewart playing. I feel for him, Jones let the manager and team down last year, Barker has had one or two good games max from memory yet gets game regularly and Stewart hardly gets on the bench.
I think the injuries to Aribo and Roofe resulted in more game time for Barker & Jones.

Hagi is being protected and dropping out sometimes, forget sometimes how young he is.

Barker I think works very hard off the ball, seems to take tactical I structions well
 

ronadamus_prime

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I wrote him off and I'm still not fully convinced by him. If he can make the most of his limited minutes, he'll get chances.
 

Rhblue

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Thought he would have got more of a run out at the weekend after a few good performances before the international break.
 

DavieM

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I actually thought he would have played at the weekend and Kent given a bit of a rest. One needs game time and the other needs to be kept fresh and ready to perform in our tougher games.
 

brain

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This is a bit of a myth to be honest, just because his numbers are down doesn't mean he isn't contributing in the final third, he is still vital in building up our attacking play.
Not really. Work rate is always good but on the ball he has produced very little and wasted a lot of opportunities.
 

bear wi nae hair

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As an aside, these threads make me realise just how far we’ve come as a team these past few years with Stevie and his team at the helm.

The quality of player we now have us night and day, without spending stupidly.
 

TW1988

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Thought he's looked really sharp in the time he’s played this season but how can we fit him in when the team are playing so well?

Does he deserve more of an opportunity like Barker has this season?
Motherwell game he looked decent in spurts, and I dont think we can question his defensive abilities playing in Clarke’s system so effectively at Killie - the fact is he has worked his way back from the brink - but with Hagi, Aribo,Barker, Roofe, Kent and Arfield all ahead in the pecking order - its hard to see him getting more time.
 

de_whoa

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Tbh we need squad players like Barker and Jones, we can’t afford the cost of having a full squad of 100% 1st team regulars as much as we might want or need it

It’s also a case of using the right tool for the job and when games are stretched we’ll need pacy players - probably why we saw Jones for the last part of the Livi game.
 

Rfclee

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His and Barker's position in the squad is the only place we need to find better quality imo. Both are ok if you look across the squad that wide right role is where we lack quality and depth.
 

The Reaper

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Yeah, I think Jones has more to offer. If Kent is not fully on it or when Hagi is quiet I’d have no problem starting him. It does seem like he is underused.
 

temperance

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The fact that him and Barker are nowhere near as effective as Kent and Hagi then it makes it difficult Jones and Barker should be sold to fund a better quality 10/winger that will challenge Kent and Hagi more affectively
Where are you getting a player like that for circa £500k?
 

LOL 133

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Barker is a real head scratcher for me. Clearly, we have coaches and a management team that know what they are doing but, for the life of me, I just can’t see a footballer in Barker.

I watched a bit of one of those classic SPL matches. I think it finished 2 1 to Rangers against Hibs at Easter Road. David Bates should have been penalised for a handball in the box.

My point is Barker was playing for Hibs and the bit I saw he was outstanding. He fired in two brilliant shots. The first tipped on to the post by Fod and the second flying like a rocket over the bar. He looked a different player.

I think its lack of confidence. When we scored against Celtic he didnt seem included in the celebrations. He was like an outsider. Perhaps he feels he doesnt belong. Ive seen this happen in other walks of life. Ive even seen this highlighted in team building programmes.

Gerrard obviously rates him so Im hoping whatever is holding him back can be resolved. The boy can play.
 

Wee Dick's Hairnet

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I watched a bit of one of those classic SPL matches. I think it finished 2 1 to Rangers against Hibs at Easter Road. David Bates should have been penalised for a handball in the box.

My point is Barker was playing for Hibs and the bit I saw he was outstanding. He fired in two brilliant shots. The first tipped on to the post by Fod and the second flying like a rocket over the bar. He looked a different player.

I think its lack of confidence. When we scored against Celtic he didnt seem included in the celebrations. He was like an outsider. Perhaps he feels he doesnt belong. Ive seen this happen in other walks of life. Ive even seen this highlighted in team building programmes.

Gerrard obviously rates him so Im hoping whatever is holding him back can be resolved. The boy can play.

Yeah what your describing is plain to see. Maybe he doesn’t feel himself he is up to the standard. He needs more self confidence. I actually thought no crowds would help him. He was probably more comfortable in that Hibs team.
 

bkerr72

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He had a great chance on Sunday to burst through on the GK and was robbed of the ball. These are chances if he wants to move further up the order he has to take.
I thought with that run he was focusing more on trying to get the defender sent off with a mistimed tackle instead of going straight through on goal as he cuts back into direction Devlin was running in.

I am not a fan of Jones at all he did well against Motherwell and scored a good goal but he was poor against Ross County. Jones is effective when he has space to run into which he isn't going to get on Sunday so I don't see him playing. I was surprised for the way we play in Europe he wasn't added in the squad but I know we have to go with a smaller squad in Europe due to homegrown rules.
 

Coplandbear

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Combine whatever fees we get for Jones and Barker and their wages and we could target a player in the last six months of his deal or get a high quality loan in
If we got Jones, Barker, Stewart off the bill the wages freed up could comfortably go towards a quality attacker who can produce the goods and bring something different to the squad.
 
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