Kamberi for Docherty-Swap deal

Sam Minella

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There’s a long way to go before Rangers decide to move for Kamberi.

1) He needs to put a shift in and prove he’s worthy of playing for Rangers over the long term. That means getting it spot on when we rely upon him between now and the end of the season. He’s done ok so far, but it’s been a couple of games, and we shouldn’t be shooting our load because someone has done ok in a couple of games.

2) The Gaffer and Ross Wilson really need to (and I’m sure they are) work on all options for the forward line next season. That could be with or without Morelos. That could involve better targets than Kamberi.

Basically it is way to early to even suggest Kamberi is a fit for us long term.
Totally spot on mate.

I do think the signs are promising but there shouldn't be a decision made at this stage - let's see how he gets on between now and the end of the season.

As for exchanging Docherty for Kamberi - no thank you.

Our midfield is getting on a bit - Davis 35, Arfield 31, Jack 28; I get that players have longer careers these days but I still think Docherty is capable of breaking into the team.
 

BlueSeaOfIbrox

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Too early to tell?

Kamberi is a third choice striker right now and as a third choice striker he's good enough. Last night he was shown up with the amount of times he was caught offside some of it was just blatant and he wasn't even caught in the offside trap. Fair enough they played a high line but noone else was being caught offside as much as him and to me that tells me a lot - he's simply not good enough and doesn't have the "football brain" to become a proper striker for us.

Sorry but someone who's been playing professionally a number of years & played at the level he did there's simply no reason at all for him to be caught that much. I'd expect that from 10 year olds kicking about a park who don't really understand the offside rule not someone who's played at that level FFS.

But as I said, he's a third choice striker and we could do so much worse, but for all we know next season we could bring in Vydra and have Morelos, Vryda, Defoe and Kamberi. In that position I'm not sure I'd keep Kamberi.
 

Modfella

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We will just buy Kamberi and I think we should, they can't afford Docherty so we take him back and give him another go or sell him on to a team in Championship.
But Hivs will be difficult to deal with, you can bet on it!
 

Glendonagasaki

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Kamberi has been amazing for us since he came in the door, every game he has came on, he's offered us something different, and I think that's what we've been missing. Right enough though, he's the type of player that will end up becoming a scapegoat for the Moaning Loyal.
 

The Lone Sniper

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Too early to tell?

Kamberi is a third choice striker right now and as a third choice striker he's good enough. Last night he was shown up with the amount of times he was caught offside some of it was just blatant and he wasn't even caught in the offside trap. Fair enough they played a high line but noone else was being caught offside as much as him and to me that tells me a lot - he's simply not good enough and doesn't have the "football brain" to become a proper striker for us.

Sorry but someone who's been playing professionally a number of years & played at the level he did there's simply no reason at all for him to be caught that much. I'd expect that from 10 year olds kicking about a park who don't really understand the offside rule not someone who's played at that level FFS.

But as I said, he's a third choice striker and we could do so much worse, but for all we know next season we could bring in Vydra and have Morelos, Vryda, Defoe and Kamberi. In that position I'm not sure I'd keep Kamberi.
What a strange summation of Kamberi's performances so far.

He's looked the part on all occasions he's been on the park. You think it's easy to go from Hibs bench to playing against a top team in Portugal?

The boy has so far stepped up to the plate.
 

BlueSeaOfIbrox

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What a strange summation of Kamberi's performances so far.

He's looked the part on all occasions he's been on the park. You think it's easy to go from Hibs bench to playing against a top team in Portugal?

The boy has so far stepped up to the plate.
There's one thing being 'caught out' playing a top side

And another being caught ofside.. 100x a game. No matter who your playing against the offside rule is the same and it's not particularly hard to stick to.
 

The Lone Sniper

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There's one thing being 'caught out' playing a top side

And another being caught ofside.. 100x a game. No matter who your playing against the offside rule is the same and it's not particularly hard to stick to.
He wasn't caught out - and neither was he off-side 100 times. He contributed to a famous European away win.

You seem in a bad mood.
 

BlueSeaOfIbrox

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He wasn't caught out - and neither was he off-side 100 times. He contributed to a famous European away win.

You seem in a bad mood.
Never said he was caught out. Going from Hibs to playing Braga has no excuse for being caught offside as many times as he has.

Sorry lost count after the first 20 times. regardless the point is the same.

Not in any mood?
 

android

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There's one thing being 'caught out' playing a top side

And another being caught ofside.. 100x a game. No matter who your playing against the offside rule is the same and it's not particularly hard to stick to.
A 100 times!! I've told you a million times don't...
 

BoyInRoyalBlue

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We should be making it as difficuilt as possible for Hibs to buy any Rangers players not putting one on the plate for them.

Also, although I have been impressed with Kamberi lets just calm down a bit in the buy him etc, lets give him the full loan deal to show what he can do, Cummings time at us should be a lesson.
 

SmileyBear

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Kamberi movement and touch is what we have needed upfront for a while he fits well into the team, pity he's cup tied.
 

Herbie53

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Docherty might not be the finished article for us right now, but if we were to let him go (transfer or swap) I can see us regretting it when he develops and reaches his potential
 

gersandproud

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On the 'potential' side of things - Doc is by far the superior of the two in my opinion - not that they're comparable in any other ways - or that 'potential' always turns out successful

Without wishing to be too negative - I'm still unconvinced of Kamberi - I agree we need / could use, someone of his stature / style of play - but I just don't think he's a great option & would expect other younger, better, hungrier, more skilful alternatives to come available in the next window

So - to loose Doc - simply to gain Kamberi would be a travesty imo
 
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focrs

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I have been impressed with kamberi he looks to want to wear the skirt and looks to be enjoying football with us.
we have him to the end of season and if he continues well he would be worth a deal. More surprised Hibs someone like that on the bench.
 

EndOfDays

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Being a Rangers fan seems to make Docherty a far better player than he actually is in the eyes of a lot of fans.

He is not good enough, would much rather take Kamberi if he keeps up his good start.
 

gersandproud

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I'm afraid I don't actually 'see it' with Kamberi

Sure he's providing a much different option up front than we have - but that's because of his stature & style of play - not (imo) because he's a great example of that type of player

Now I know getting someone in the open market is not without risks or costing big bucks - but I still think it's relatively easy to acquire somebody better than him
 

CanuckBear

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I'd keep FK as I think he can be handy to us especially domestically. If we can use him as a 3rd striker or when we have injuries and or need a late goal I think he'd be good. That third striker is hard to fill because of the limited opportunities.
Last night his work rate and physicality were good but he lacked that bit of quality (maybe a confidence/pressure thing) when he had chances.
In that role i think he'd still get to play 20 games a season which from what he has been saying he'd be happy about as long as he gets to stay.
 

Arkanoid

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We could get Kamberi for a few hundred thou, Docherty would command a £1m+ fee for English suitors
 

Bishy Bear

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Doc will have suitors in England or can come back and do a job for us.

Hibs won’t accept Kamberi back into their team after playing for us and his talk when signing for us. He will be sold. I doubt there will be teams queueing up to sign him. If we play it out we could easily get him for £500k.
 

Eddie Doc

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Too early to tell?

Kamberi is a third choice striker right now and as a third choice striker he's good enough. Last night he was shown up with the amount of times he was caught offside some of it was just blatant and he wasn't even caught in the offside trap. Fair enough they played a high line but noone else was being caught offside as much as him and to me that tells me a lot - he's simply not good enough and doesn't have the "football brain" to become a proper striker for us.

Sorry but someone who's been playing professionally a number of years & played at the level he did there's simply no reason at all for him to be caught that much. I'd expect that from 10 year olds kicking about a park who don't really understand the offside rule not someone who's played at that level FFS.

But as I said, he's a third choice striker and we could do so much worse, but for all we know next season we could bring in Vydra and have Morelos, Vryda, Defoe and Kamberi. In that position I'm not sure I'd keep Kamberi.
The offsides were poor. The old "give him a yard" advice would've worked last night.
 

Thebearman

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If Doc continues his early good form there will be a few sides looking at him. Can't see him at Hibs next season.

Early days for Kamberi, but so far looks a good signing. He's burnt his bridges at Hibs, they'll be looking to move him on
 

Careca

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I would extend Docherty’s contract at Rangers, give him a full season at Hibs on loan then either bring him in to replace Davis if he progresses, or sell.
 
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