Kerryfail Meltdown - A new hope

Bknowe

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It's crazy, I learned a while ago to keep quiet until a new player has played 5 or 6 games, I remember Ojo looking like a superstar in his first couple of games only to fall away completely.

He is just one example of many, why can't they just say he had a good game and hope he builds on that without declaring him a superstar? he was awful the 2nd half and gave the ball away constantly but nobody mentions that.

Remember last season they told us Laxalt was world class.
The thing with Laxalt last season just happened to coincide with their form dropping off a cliff after we beat them. Basically since they started playing him

They were so busy bumming him up to be a world beater that they were so blind to his deficiencies.
 

RedWhiteBlue

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It's crazy, I learned a while ago to keep quiet until a new player has played 5 or 6 games, I remember Ojo looking like a superstar in his first couple of games only to fall away completely.

He is just one example of many, why can't they just say he had a good game and hope he builds on that without declaring him a superstar? he was awful the 2nd half and gave the ball away constantly but nobody mentions that.

Remember last season they told us Laxalt was world class.
Usual crap from them.
I think they are just so used to the media being constant tim cheerleaders that they don't know any better.

As you say, they were still doing it last season as everything was falling apart. Wasn't the build up to the New Year Old Firm game all about their "diamond" in midfield because they had won 4 games in a row and hadn't conceded a goal? Think they also beat Lille at home.

They sign a guy for 2 million or so and after 90 minutes against Hibs he's worth 20 odd million and the best midfielder seen in Scotland for decades. I seem to remember Lundstram winning a few man of the match awards this season?

I think what's worse is some of our own completely buying into it.
We're sitting at the top of the league listening to people moaning that we haven't improved while the tims are taking a gamble with players from the J-league and everyone is pissing their pants because he got a man of the match against Hibs.
 

148bear

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Exactly, last season it was Soro was the new best player in the league and that lasted all of 2 games. At the start of the season the Israeli winger was touted as in the top 10 young up and coming talents in the world, since then he’s been average at best.

But let them get all worked up about him, just makes the crash back to reality even funnier with the, how it started, how it’s going posts. B-D
We might aswell chuck in the towel just now 'the Japanese are just brillliunt world class best players in the wurld pure unreal'
I think ive heard all this before lovley they are mentalists:D
 

ForGodForCountryForever

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"Sparkling Celt!c are just too hot"
"Nothing was going to get in the way of the big comeback"
"Hatate the real deal"

If you can believe it these banner and sub headlines are actually all from the same piece in The Times.

Clearly the Scottish Media was on the verge of mass heart attacks had they not been allowed to start telling everyone about how great Celt!c are.

Normal fake news service resumes then.
 

RedWhiteBlue

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Don’t forget Turnbull was going to replace Grealish at Villa for £50 million as well.

Same old story from them.
They signed the guy in August 2020 for about 2.5 million.
By May 2021, after helping Celtic to 2nd place in the SPL, Aston Villa are coming in with a bid cos they want him to replace 100 million rated Grealish.
 

Robo

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The delusion from their hordes always amazes me. When we skelp them in the old form game it will be ange must go! It’s all kennedys fault anyway! I can’t wait to see the riots this time around.
 

Recoba

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Usual crap from them.
I think they are just so used to the media being constant tim cheerleaders that they don't know any better.

As you say, they were still doing it last season as everything was falling apart. Wasn't the build up to the New Year Old Firm game all about their "diamond" in midfield because they had won 4 games in a row and hadn't conceded a goal? Think they also beat Lille at home.

They sign a guy for 2 million or so and after 90 minutes against Hibs he's worth 20 odd million and the best midfielder seen in Scotland for decades. I seem to remember Lundstram winning a few man of the match awards this season?

I think what's worse is some of our own completely buying into it.
We're sitting at the top of the league listening to people moaning that we haven't improved while the tims are taking a gamble with players from the J-league and everyone is pissing their pants because he got a man of the match against Hibs.
Yea they won 5 games in a row using the diamond then came to Ibrox and lost even though we never kicked a ball the full game.

Its honestly crazy the way they are going on about this midfielder, lets wait and see what he does at Tynecastle next week.
 

Cahoochie

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Personally, I don’t think Celtc are high quality, I think they will struggle to keep the level of intensity for 60 never mind 90 minutes and other teams will work them out, but to dismiss them would be foolhardy.

Everything, and I mean everything, from Referee decisions to fixture shuffling to increasing the number of Substitutes mid season ( when it clear they run out of steam in later stages and need to make changes ) has been aligned to assist them.

That assistance might be coincidental, accidental or deliberate, but it is real.
Thankfully I sure Gio will ensure we are fully prepared for the coming fixtures.
 

Fuertebear55

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It must be easy selling paper's to the hordes of Mordor, the game last night against a team that love's bending over for scum involved a defensive shambles and a tap in and a penalty that wasn't. But sprinkle a lot of glitter and suddenly the shite is sparkling. Get your shark's polished off for the 2nd scumbags if you've got the baws to play us.
 

Ubik

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Personally, I don’t think Celtc are high quality, I think they will struggle to keep the level of intensity for 60 never mind 90 minutes and other teams will work them out, but to dismiss them would be foolhardy.

Everything, and I mean everything, from Referee decisions to fixture shuffling to increasing the number of Substitutes mid season ( when it clear they run out of steam in later stages and need to make changes ) has been aligned to assist them.

That assistance might be coincidental, accidental or deliberate, but it is real.
Thankfully I sure Gio will ensure we are fully prepared for the coming fixtures.
It's hard to ignore the work permit thing being changed just as they sign players from japan, maybe another coincidence. Just like the first OF game last season being put back to try to get their fans in, sheer coincidence.
 

Edweird

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So they've dropped their claim to the World Possession Title after last night's possession defeat?

I've seen some hyperbole over the past three seasons as the media attempted to pull Timmy over the TIA*R line. Last night is a step beyond.

I watched the whole game. The new signing that scored was anonymous afterwards. Hivs controlled the game for large parts but inevitably broke down as the neared the sellic box.

I saw no stand outs for either team in a pretty dour affair.

It was the flatest I've seen Timmy this season. Couldn't keep control of possession, had one good flowing move going forward and created nothing until Hivs had to push a little more with 10 minutes to go.

Woke up this morning and it seems I watched Real Madrid vs Frankfurt.

As mentioned , it was Soros before but it has also been Griffiths (if he can get fit), Turnbull, Kyogo and Wham. Let's not forget Mickey Johnston, on his 6th season of unfulfilled potential.

I want to win the league as early as possible but that then triggers early headlines about how "Next season, once these guys are bedded in, etc, etc" and the accompanying tens of mullions valuations.

By the way, have the media suggested that Sellic call Kawasaki and offer more money? Whatever they paid it wasn't enough.
 
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Cardee

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Yea they won 5 games in a row using the diamond then came to Ibrox and lost even though we never kicked a ball the full game.

Its honestly crazy the way they are going on about this midfielder, lets wait and see what he does at Tynecastle next week.
Ahhhhh, "our unbeatable diamond"

The phrase that was coined less than 10 minutes after we'd just beaten them.

Again!
 

Jack Burton

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I watched their game last night, they were up against a very poor Hibs side who offered almost nothing going forward and who look worse under SM than they did under Jack Ross. One thing I’ve noticed about that mob, especially this season, is the way they applaud very basic football as if it’s a display of world class proportions, it’s no wonder they get carried away. Even the most basic of passes.
If they genuinely think that they are the better side and they are going to win the league then let them crack on, a very rude awakening await them in February when a proper football team strolls up to their mhidden That’s when the Ange will be back to being a “fat Aussie cnt” and they will see themselves for the team they actually are.
 

brain

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he was awful the 2nd half and gave the ball away constantly but nobody mentions that.
Seriously? I didn’t see the game and you would never know that from the coverage.

Hatate was the one signing I thought would definitely improve them. He seems to have been a key member of the team who won the league over there by a mile two years in a row, so I expected him to be a better option than Bitton, McCarthy and Turnbull. It’s hardly a high bar. But as you say it’s way too early for the proclamations they are making about him. Would the Japanese champions really sell for £1.4m if he was half the player they are making out?
 

Edweird

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Seriously? I didn’t see the game and you would never know that from the coverage.

Hatate was the one signing I thought would definitely improve them. He seems to have been a key member of the team who won the league over there by a mile two years in a row, so I expected him to be a better option than Bitton, McCarthy and Turnbull. It’s hardly a high bar. But as you say it’s way too early for the proclamations they are making about him. Would the Japanese champions really sell for £1.4m if he was half the player they are making out?
No.
The best player to come out of Japan was Nakata. He went for something like 4 or 5 million 20 odd years ago.
A tremendous player but a pretentious bellend. You can already see similar signs of Kyogo believing his own hype.
Japan has all these world beaters yet the only person who noticed is Fatange? It actually smacks of sheer laziness in his recruitment policy. It seems to me that he has a WWI approach to football. Have his players run to death over the top, then send in some new ones. They'll end up with a first team squad comprised of about 50 Japanese players, all in various stages of recovery.
I lived over there for 4-5 years in the mid to late 90s. For effort and general running about they were world beaters but hardly a step above the Saudi leagues. Lots of overpaid foreigners in the league at that time.
Things must have changed a bit because the cheating of Kyogo wouldn't have been tolerated a couple of decades ago.
I never felt they had a true passion for football. The no1 sport by a mile is baseball.
 

Recoba

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Seriously? I didn’t see the game and you would never know that from the coverage.

Hatate was the one signing I thought would definitely improve them. He seems to have been a key member of the team who won the league over there by a mile two years in a row, so I expected him to be a better option than Bitton, McCarthy and Turnbull. It’s hardly a high bar. But as you say it’s way too early for the proclamations they are making about him. Would the Japanese champions really sell for £1.4m if he was half the player they are making out?
Hatate had some nice passes in the first half, nothing to make him a superstar but looked comfortable but he also gave the ball away a lot and in the 2nd half he done nothing, he may be a good player and has decent technique but he was up against one of the slowest midfields you will see.

He will deffo be a better option that Bitton and brain dead McCarthy

The striker i would bet had less than 10 touches and never looked remotely dangerous the full game.
 

RWL12

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So they've dropped their claim to the World Possession Title after last night's possession defeat?

I've seen some hyperbole over the past three seasons as the media attempted to pull Timmy over the TIA*R line. Last night is a step beyond.

I watched the whole game. The new signing that scored was anonymous afterwards. Hivs controlled the game for large parts but inevitably broke down as the neared the sellic box.

I saw no stand outs for either team in a pretty dour affair.

It was the flatest I've seen Timmy this season. Couldn't keep control of possession, had one good flowing move going forward and created nothing until Hivs had to push a little more with 10 minutes to go.

Woke up this morning and it seems I watched Real Madrid vs Frankfurt.

As mentioned , it was Soros before but it has also been Griffiths (if he can get fit), Turnbull, Kyogo and Wham. Let's not forget Mickey Johnston, on his 6th season of unfulfilled potential.

I want to win the league as early as possible but that then triggers early headlines about how "Next season, once these guys are bedded in, etc, etc" and the accompanying tens of mullions valuations.

By the way, have the media suggested that Sellic call Kawasaki and offer more money? Whatever they paid it wasn't enough.

You are forgetting about superstar Rogic. He is worth £30m+.

They call him the Wizard of Oz for his "skills".


(Ironically, the Wizard of Oz was a fraud. Maybe it is a decent nickname after all).
 

Simply a Bear

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It must be easy selling paper's to the hordes of Mordor, the game last night against a team that love's bending over for scum involved a defensive shambles and a tap in and a penalty that wasn't. But sprinkle a lot of glitter and suddenly the shite is sparkling. Get your shark's polished off for the 2nd scumbags if you've got the baws to play us.
hordes of Mordor.

Killing myself laughing at this.
 

Recoba

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Peter Grant on Hetate, my goodness!

Speaking on Sportsound, he said: "It's his first game, you can't get carried away, the qualities he's shown tonight, (Andres) Iniesta comes to mind for me.

The guy gave the ball away at least 6-8 times and in amongst that were some good passes, its unbelievable but we knew this was always going to happen they have been declared superstars from the moment they signed.
 

Simply a Bear

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Peter Grant on Hetate, my goodness!

Speaking on Sportsound, he said: "It's his first game, you can't get carried away, the qualities he's shown tonight, (Andres) Iniesta comes to mind for me.

The guy gave the ball away at least 6-8 times and in amongst that were some good passes, its unbelievable but we knew this was always going to happen they have been declared superstars from the moment they signed.
Why do they compare players to some of the greatest names to grace the game. Iniesta is so far ahead in every aspect that there's no comparison. Iniesta will be a player spoken about in decades, I highly doubt Hetate will be spoken of in five years.
 

Recoba

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Why do they compare players to some of the greatest names to grace the game. Iniesta is so far ahead in every aspect that there's no comparison. Iniesta will be a player spoken about in decades, I highly doubt Hetate will be spoken of in five years.
Its crazy, all these undiscovered superstars just stuck in Japan waiting to get out.

They never learn, the guy might be a good player but ffs they need to calm down.

Guaranteed if Sands starts tonight and has an excellent game you wont hear all these crazy superlatives.
 

Hurricane Run

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Peter Grant on Hetate, my goodness!

Speaking on Sportsound, he said: "It's his first game, you can't get carried away, the qualities he's shown tonight, (Andres) Iniesta comes to mind for me.

The guy gave the ball away at least 6-8 times and in amongst that were some good passes, its unbelievable but we knew this was always going to happen they have been declared superstars from the moment they signed.

Tbf mate. That happened on here as well
 

Macdonsj

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the 3 japanese played average of 38 games each in 2021 in a league that ran to December
i look forward to Angela running them into the ground for the Sultans of Ping FC
 

Tailwind

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Peter Grant on Hetate, my goodness!

Speaking on Sportsound, he said: "It's his first game, you can't get carried away, the qualities he's shown tonight, (Andres) Iniesta comes to mind for me.

The guy gave the ball away at least 6-8 times and in amongst that were some good passes, its unbelievable but we knew this was always going to happen they have been declared superstars from the moment they signed.
“You can’t get carried away but he’s basically one of the greatest midfielders of the modern game” ohhhhhkaaaayyyyy then
 

Mr Wilton

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Peter Grant on Hetate, my goodness!

Speaking on Sportsound, he said: "It's his first game, you can't get carried away, the qualities he's shown tonight, (Andres) Iniesta comes to mind for me.

The guy gave the ball away at least 6-8 times and in amongst that were some good passes, its unbelievable but we knew this was always going to happen they have been declared superstars from the moment they signed.
To start that with “you can’t get carried away” then mention Inesta in the same sentence is quite unbelievable!
 
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