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Barker's pace could have stretched them a bit towards the end but I think it was fair enough not to change it.
This ^Criminal when we are 2 up and needing legs, their manager used every sub and went for it, Gerrard froze.
Ffs we were bumming like stink about our great squad and now you’re saying we couldn’t make a substitution?Bassey, Helander, Hagi, Itten, Barker, Stewart, Barjonas, Dickson, King
Who out of that stops the midfield being completely overran the last 20 minutes? We could bring Helander on for a forward but that just invites more pressure.
The options weren’t there on the bench
Any sub he would have made would have weakened us
Itten, Hagi, Barker are all players less likely to retain possession imo, which is why he didn't change it up front either.
Spot on, or put Helander on for 3 at the back. We simply had to make subs to see out the game.Pull a forward off, shore up the midfield, use Barker to run the ball.
That’s not quite it. You’ve got to consider the game and the system, and how the game is going on the night. I think Gerrard trusts those players, but it wasn’t the right game for them.So why are these players at Rangers? Why are they picking a wage if you (or the manager) dont think they are worthy of playing 20 minutes against Benfica with 2-0 up?
People are looking for every excuse to make when its about Gerrard. Yes he has done some great things but not even bringing on at least one player at the end is/was a mistake.
Remind me how many games we have lost this season? Our best run in how many years? How many clean sheets? Top of the spl and europa league? Aye sort it out Stevie indeedThis ^
How we didn't even make one sub, just to even run the clock down is an absolute joke.
You don't want to be too harsh because what a performance and what a season we're having but these flashes of school boy management is really f*cking frustrating at times.
Sort it out Stevie!
That’s not quite it. You’ve got to consider the game and the system, and how the game is going on the night. I think Gerrard trusts those players, but it wasn’t the right game for them.
If we see the game out are we moaning about no subs? If we make subs and don’t see the game out are we moaning about making subs? You’re dammed if you do and damned if you don’t.
It’s easy to say it was a mistake not to make changes after the fact.
And that demonstrates how we are developing. Immense progress over this last three years. Just immense.Benfica spent 100 million this year...
That’s not quite it. You’ve got to consider the game and the system, and how the game is going on the night. I think Gerrard trusts those players, but it wasn’t the right game for them.
If we see the game out are we moaning about no subs? If we make subs and don’t see the game out are we moaning about making subs? You’re dammed if you do and damned if you don’t.
It’s easy to say it was a mistake not to make changes after the fact.
Would feel worse about it if it was a league game at the weekend but imagine there will be some changes so players who emptied the tank tonight can get a restFelt at 2-0 and at 70 mins some changes were required.
Fresh legs and break up the game.
Still a great position to be in but more game management required
I really dont think that anybody would have been moaning if Hagi would have came on instead of Arfield or Itten instead of Morelos or Kent. Its not like somebody on here is demanding to swap the keeper during the game.
Would’ve been a good call, Kent drifted out of it in the 2nd halfCouldn’t believe we didn’t even waste time with a few subs
Crying out for hellander to come on
You are exposing how little you know about football even suggesting hagi for arfield in a game like thatI really dont think that anybody would have been moaning if Hagi would have came on instead of Arfield or Itten instead of Morelos or Kent. Its not like somebody on here is demanding to swap the keeper during the game.
Also most people said this when we were 2-0 up. Not just after the game.
It’s a Rangers fans message board.The manager felt we didn’t need them.
End of discussion.
Don't be daft.Criminal when we are 2 up and needing legs, their manager used every sub and went for it, Gerrard froze.
Absolute rubbish if Aribo Jack and Zungu had been fit it would have been different the truth is we had nothing on the bench that could have helped us as for them using there subs well they had too they were chasing the game. We have played two games against a too team the best we will play this season for sure and we have managed to stay unbeaten that is a great feat let’s just be happy and proud of thatCriminal when we are 2 up and needing legs, their manager used every sub and went for it, Gerrard froze.
Yes, it’s easy after the event to question decisions.If I picked the right 6 numbers I win the lottery...
You can’t guarantee subs make a difference. If he makes the subs and Benfica score then people are crying about the subs upsetting the shape or the team.
We haven’t even lost the game. Support your team.
It was a mistake at the time. Still, live and learn hopefully.
Absolutely. A rollercoaster to watch from the comfort of our home without the eyes of the world judging our every move.Yes, it’s easy after the event to question decisions.
Me as a fan watching?
I couldn’t decide whether Alfie was struggling with his ankle, must sub.
Was Ryan out on his feet, must sub.
Then Alfie makes that run and shot, what do I know.
Give me two draws three weeks ago, ?
Yer damn tootin’
Roll on Sunday
Dont know about Barker tonight, other than not a bad ideaPull a forward off, shore up the midfield, use Barker to run the ball.
I am happy and proud, the thread is about subs, you can ignore or join in the thread. Many think we could have brought on a sub or two, even Gerrard thought about it, or they wouldn't have been warming up, Gerrard never used them , I happen to think he should haveAbsolute rubbish if Aribo Jack and Zungu had been fit it would have been different the truth is we had nothing on the bench that could have helped us as for them using there subs well they had too they were chasing the game. We have played two games against a too team the best we will play this season for sure and we have managed to stay unbeaten that is a great feat let’s just be happy and proud of that
He was warming up, but never got on. I think he could maybe have ran at them, that's what their subs did to us on two occasions.Dont know about Barker tonight, other than not a bad idea
Agreed. But the manager gets paid to run the team, has a better understanding of the team, the players, their fitness and his game plan, so no matter anyone’s opinion it’s only his that matters.It’s a Rangers fans message board.
literally for this type of discussion.
Ultimately he’s the only person who can change anything but I disagree that it’s only his opinion that matters.Agreed. But the manager gets paid to run the team, has a better understanding of the team, the players, their fitness and his game plan, so no matter anyone’s opinion it’s only his that matters.
Ffs we were bumming like stink about our great squad and now you’re saying we couldn’t make a substitution?
It is.Ultimately he’s the only person who can change anything but I disagree that it’s only his opinion that matters.
they were, they gave their all and we should have had fresh legs on especially when it went 2-1The players looked dead on their feet that last 15/20 mins.
I disagree any sub that would have came on would have been a serious drop in quality and disrupted the team shape the manager made the right decision BTW subs warm up all the time it’s to stretch their muscles and legs not an indication that the manager is thinking about using them !I am happy and proud, the thread is about subs, you can ignore or join in the thread. Many think we could have brought on a sub or two, even Gerrard thought about it, or they wouldn't have been warming up, Gerrard never used them , I happen to think he should have
He was warming up, but never got on. I think he could maybe have ran at them, that's what their subs did to us on two occasions.
Stop talking sense. We should have used the subs. Just because they were available. Some people seem to believe subs must be used. Bet it's the same eejits whinging about making subs the last game.Didn’t think we really had the subs available for were we needed change, it was our midfield 3 who tired but we didn’t really have an option off the bench for there
What game?Last time we moaned he had changed the game with the subs
You can’t win
If we bring on Barker and draw 2-2 this Board would be going mental.Itten for Alfie for a start.
Barker/Hagi for Kent
As said in the OP still in a great position but various players were tiring tonight
Was nothing to bring on a couple of kids in King and Dickson who along with Stewart and Barjonas were there to make up the numbers.Felt at 2-0 and at 70 mins some changes were required.
Fresh legs and break up the game.
Still a great position to be in but more game management required
Ultimately he’s the only person who can change anything but I disagree that it’s only his opinion that matters.
Agreed. But the manager gets paid to run the team, has a better understanding of the team, the players, their fitness and his game plan, so no matter anyone’s opinion it’s only his that matters.
Didn't really need to change the game. Two goals came out of nowhere.
Removing one of our best and most dangerous players of the evening.I thought Itten might have come on to give an outball outwide against Grimaldo.