Lee Bowyer: Joe Aribo making a mistake if he signs for Rangers

andrewmont1 said:
Palace vs Huddersfield. 2 giod sides cancelling each other out? Joking. Theres a lot if piss poor teams in that league. He will be well served at Ibrox
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Palace, Brighton, Newcastle, Southampton, Burnley, Watford, West Ham. Some really dull sides in that league. But they are EPL so we must fawn over them.
 
I can see one of the points he is making (Rangers to the Premier League is not exactly a well-worn path of late - who was the last player we sold to a Premier League team?

However, I'm confident that Aribo will progress much quicker getting regular gametime here, than he would do being roasted in the Championship every week with a poor Charlton team.
 
pandager1 said:
I can see one of the points he is making (Rangers to the Premier League is not exactly a well-worn path of late - who was the last player we sold to a Premier League team?

However, I'm confident that Aribo will progress much quicker getting regular gametime here, than he would do being roasted in the Championship every week with a poor Charlton team.
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Numerous players in 2012. It's fairly understandable why we haven't been selling players to the EPL of late.
 
Bowery Boy said:
Numerous players in 2012. It's fairly understandable why we haven't been selling players to the EPL of late.
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Seven years ago mate, not a great track record for a club of our size, is it?

Hopefully now we have a proper structure in place and an excellent backroom team, we can start to establish ourselves as a stepping stone to the very top once again.
 
Looking forward to Stevie's response to this.
Don't think he has much time for this clown anyway, if I remember correctly.
 
Coming here and winning a title with a huge club playing week in week out wont do the lad any harm at all! However I dont believe sitting in a reserve team for some diddy English PL side will do the guy good! It's a smart move for him in my opinion! Ya bitter prick Lee!
 
The arrogance of a lot of these English clubs is getting beyond a joke, take the tv money away from them and we'll see who the ' big ' clubs are...its not that long ago that the big 6 down south were Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, Villa, ...along with us and the poets ( in no particular order) .
 
Aye-Ready said:
Looking forward to Stevie's response to this.
Don't think he has much time for this clown anyway, if I remember correctly.
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Bowyer is a complete thicko with a long list of convictions including racism and assult. He sounds extremely dumb during interviews. I doubt Gerrard has much time for him.
 
andrewmont1 said:
Palace vs Huddersfield. 2 giod sides cancelling each other out? Joking. Theres a lot if piss poor teams in that league. He will be well served at Ibrox
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If we want to know whether or not Aribo is the kind of midfielder capable of breaking through two banks of five he's definitely coming to the right place. I'm really excited to see him in action.
 
Bonnyloyal said:
Charlton manager Lee Bowyer reckons Joe Aribo will be making a huge mistake if he signs for Rangers.

The midfielder, 23, has agreed a four-year contract with the Glasgow giants and is due to seal his switch pending a successful medical.

Bowyer accepts that the Addicks cannot match the terms on offer elsewhere for the Camberwell-born player. Southampton were also keen on a deal – which would have netted the newly-promoted Championship side some decent compensation.

Instead Aribo’s move to the Scottish Premier League will see minimal money heading Charlton’s way. But Bowyer is more annoyed that one of the most promising talents in English football is heading into a competition where Rangers and Celtic dominate.

“I worked so hard to get him to this situation he is in now,” said the Charlton manager. “It is about progression for him.

“So it’s a shame if he gets pushed to somewhere where it is not going to benefit him in his football career. If he goes to Rangers that is not the right place for him to go for his football career.

“You have got Rangers and Celtic who are massive clubs, I get that. And I get that Steven Gerrard was a great player, so that’s an attraction. Those two things are the attraction – but not everything else.

“It doesn’t make sense on the football side. When people from England go and play for Celtic and Rangers it is at the end of their careers. That’s because it is very rare you get a move from Rangers to the Premier League, and I don’t mean any disrespect by that.

“They might go from Rangers to the Championship, very rarely is it to the Premier League. For me he should stay in England and keep progressing. The move should benefit Joe.”

Charlton Athletic manager Lee Bowyer and Joe Aribo
Aribo’s departure will make it two high-profile exits in the past week of key men in Charlton’s play-off winning squad. Centre-back Patrick Bauer joined Preston North End last week. On Friday Bowyer met with Aribo, who was on non-league Staines’ books until he was recommended to Charlton development coach Jason Euell by Marcus Gayle in 2015.

Bowyer said: “For us to be able to compete financially with Rangers or any other team really, it is not possible unfortunately. It’s a completely different league to what we’re offering.

“I met and had a chat with Joe on Friday. I told him that if he was going to go, at least stay in England – because that is where the best football is. If you have got the opportunity to go and play Premier League football, then at least you are going to the best place.”

https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/...ibo-making-a-mistake-if-he-signs-for-rangers/
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Fuckin , nonentity Ned , he will see over the next few years how many players over the coming years will go to the prem
 
Horrible little moron of a man. Made a career of trying to kick and intimidate people. I wouldn't trust his judgement on what flavour of crisps to eat never mind guiding a young player on a football career.
 
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Suspect his motive for saying this is more financial than anything else because of the cross border development fees rule we would get Aribo for £300k an English club would have to shell out potentially millions for him.

That’s a big hit for a club like Charlton Athletic so I can’t say I blame them for wanting him to stay in England we would probably say the same if the situation was reversed.
 
I’m often critical of the SPFL but as far as going to the SPFL to end careers, Bowyer is talking out of his arse. Playing in our league has led to the advancement of many careers and to suggest otherwise is quite simply incorrect.

Recently we’ve had:

Robertson
Van Dijk
Wanyama
Fraser
Armstrong
Dembele
Maddison
Mooy

And in modern times:
Arteta
Ferguson
Van Bronkhorst
Petrov
Cuellar
Boumsong
Hutton
McArthur
McCarthy
Snodgrass

Try telling any of those players that their careers finished in Scotland.
 
I can't see the logic in LB's comments personally

If he goes to a top EPL club he'd get sent out on loan, sit on a bench or play in the B team for at least 1 or 2 seasons
If he goes to a mediochre EPL team he'll still get all of the above with the slim chance of the odd start dependant on injuries / suspensions

If he stays at Charlton he'll get game time but against pretty poor opposition that may or may not help him progress but will hardly provide a great platform for advancement ?

Then he could come to us and lessen the chance of any of the negatives above and also get game time in front of around 50,000 every other week, European football, tuition and coaching from one of the world's best midfielders of modern times with a top quality backroom staff & set-up all of which is superior to anything he can get elsewhere

& as for the opposition he will face here - well have a good look at who's come to this league and failed miserably

Hmmm ……..maybe it is a bit of a dilemma ??

Or then again maybe it's just sour grapes from LB because he isn't getting the inflated fee from English sides ??
 
omegaman said:
“When people from England go and play for Celtic and Rangers it is at the end of their careers”

Better tell Virgil Van Dyk.
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Except that Van Dyk, and all of the players listed subsequently, went from Scotland to England - and not, as Bowyer is complaining about, from England to Scotland.
 
Gheorghe_Hagi said:
I went to a Premier League game last season (Palace v Huddersfield) and the standard of football was as bad as anything I've seen up here. They absolutely have delusions of grandeur about the level their game is at based on the money that's floating about.

Plenty of people have gone on to have great careers in England from playing in the top league in Scotland.
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They have delusions of grandeur purely because of the financial clout.

When finances were similar, Scottish teams would regularly hold there own/defeat the best English teams.

Sky’s money and the slickness of their promotional material, plus a league body who want to help nurture the game have allowed them to pull away while the perpetual hatefest up here has caused the game to stagnate.
 
I worked so hard to get him to this situation he is in now,” said the Charlton manager. “It is about progression for him.

Lost me at this comment, sounds like he has an ego. Taking all the credit for Aribo instead of saying “he has worked so hard..”
 
Kowloon72 said:
I don't have a massive problem with what he's said, quality of football will be lower, and he's technically correct in that most of out recent English outgoings have went to Championship clubs (Windass, Garner, Waghorn, John). Also, most of Aberdeen's (who finished 2nd the previous few seasons) better players like McLean and Shinnie went to the championship. Where he's being disingenuous is in not taking the broader context into account. We're in much better shape now than we have been since 2012. All the top players we lost in 2012 went to good sized English clubs and did well, and if we were to sell any of our top talent now it certainly wouldn't be to the championsip. Also, the filth unfortunately have an excellent track record of selling players to the EPL.
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You are quoting players from a massively inferior Rangers side.
Completely irrelevant.

Any current Rangers first team regular moving to a lower English league is taking a step down.
It has also traditionally been the case.
 
iaatpies said:
Except that Van Dyk, and all of the players listed subsequently, went from Scotland to England - and not, as Bowyer is complaining about, from England to Scotland.
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The reason players don't normally go from England to Scotland has nothing to do with quality though, it's all about money.

Only us and the filth could even remotely match wages down south (even then we'd be nowhere near EPL wages) and there are only so many players Rangers and Celtc can sign, so that explains the lack of transfer activity in this direction.

Players like Tav and Goldson (and up until shagger signed, Foderingham) who have moved to us from England have improved since they have been with us, and then there are players like Waghorn, Windass and Worral, who moved back to England after they were shown not to be good enough for us.
 
Bowery Boy said:
Numerous players in 2012. It's fairly understandable why we haven't been selling players to the EPL of late.
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A bit disingenuous; we didn't exactly sell them, more that they were picked off by a bunch of opportunists that saw a chance to get decent players for free (bar Davis). The last player we sold to a Premier League team and got a decent fee for was Jelavic, IIRC.
 
Dear Lee,

Your knowledge of Scottish football is fundamentally flawed. This shows that you have spent little time scouting Scotland for the club you manage, Charlton. Your poor scouting will therefore impact your job going forward.

As for Scottish players not signing for EPL teams - Lol. Ya wee thug you.

Rangers 4 Leeds 2

Yours,

A Rangers fan.
 
iaatpies said:
Except that Van Dyk, and all of the players listed subsequently, went from Scotland to England - and not, as Bowyer is complaining about, from England to Scotland.
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Terry Butcher, Chris Woods, Trevor Steven, Gary Stevens, etc, etc, but let’s not split hairs - Bowyer is suggesting it’s a shit league that hinders the development of players.
 
Oh well, time to file Bowyer under “Idiot”, subsection “suspected mentally challenged”.

Looking forward to him getting his jotters in a couple of months’ time.
 
Top teams in the PL are brilliant, but the bottom half is made up of shit little clubs and mince football. Aribo wouldn't be going from Charlton to Chelsea or Arsenal, so Rangers are clearly a better option. Am I crazy?
 
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