MaxiMols12
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Hope we snap him up quick. Watching some Bundesliga and you could see him in a Dortmund team.
Pay the fee tomorrow and get him signed permanently.
The boy is fucking brilliant and is going to be a star.
Touch of an angel, scores goals, sets them up, covers the whole of the park and nicks more balls than a bic razor.
If it was £10m he'd be worth every penny but at £5m it's a steal.
And he was only half as good as Emerson Hyndman.*Give QPR whatever they want right now for Sean Goss, Rolls Royce of a player
It depends, if we get offered say £13 million Bayern’s aren’t then going to buy him for £10 and sell him right away for £13, it’s just not worth their while so we could get more than £10.I’ve always thought this.
We get to buy him for £5m after his loan period but, if we choose to sell, Bayern get first option to buy him back for £10m
So, if true, my guess would be that, if Tillman continues to improve, the most well get for him is £10m because Bayern will buy him back, sell him on and keep the profit if more than £10m.
He already is our prioritywe need to make him a priority in the summer,cracking player
If the details are already set out and it’s a case of us formalising it then the above scenario doesn’t happen.Procrastinating over it would be foolish. No need for it.
You rest on that luxury then an EPL team takes a punt on him and offers wages that puts us out of the picture.
Then he doesn't want to stay.
Make the deal now.
Your either naive or stupid, i'm guessing a bit of both.We have a deal in place
I would guess the buy back option will have a time limit on it too. For example, they can buy him back for £10m within the first 1-2 years or something along those lines.It depends, if we get offered say £13 million Bayern’s aren’t then going to buy him for £10 and sell him right away for £13, it’s just not worth their while so we could get more than £10.
another way to look at it is if we sell him to Bayern for £10 million for them to keep it means he will have developed into a great player for us for 2-3 years and we still made a £5 million profit on him
Anyone got a strong opinion on whether the player will actually want to come here permanently?
Any time I've seen him interviewed and asked about it, he's always appeared pretty coy and non-committal on the subject.
He doesnt need to bulk up, hes a fkn unitHe's a good prospect.
£5m seems steep but if it's part of a plan to then sell in season 3 for £15M then perhaps it could work.
Risky though.
He needs to be more consistent.
I also wonder if he needs to bulk up or that would slow him down
Players bounce off him.I also wonder if he needs to bulk up or that would slow him down
I don't think there is much between him and Joe Aribo and he is 6 years younger too. And it's his first season of proper football.
My thoughts exactly. Follow that model and he'll be in the prem for a nice profit in a few years.Hes much further ahead of Aribo, at the point they joined us, and hes much younger as well
£5million for Tillman is a bargainHe's a good prospect.
£5m seems steep but if it's part of a plan to then sell in season 3 for £15M then perhaps it could work.
Risky though.
He needs to be more consistent.
I also wonder if he needs to bulk up or that would slow him down
5 million actually seems like a bargain. He's probably been one of our best players this season and he's only 20 years old, big future ahead of him.He's a good prospect.
£5m seems steep but if it's part of a plan to then sell in season 3 for £15M then perhaps it could work.
Risky though.
He needs to be more consistent.
I also wonder if he needs to bulk up or that would slow him down
I agree, the worst case scenario here is we make £5m.It depends, if we get offered say £13 million Bayern’s aren’t then going to buy him for £10 and sell him right away for £13, it’s just not worth their while so we could get more than £10.
another way to look at it is if we sell him to Bayern for £10 million for them to keep it means he will have developed into a great player for us for 2-3 years and we still made a £5 million profit on him
If the details are already set out and it’s a case of us formalising it then the above scenario doesn’t happen.
You’re missing my point. IF everything has already been agreed and it’s a case of formalising the deal then there’s no point doing it now.It does if someone else contacts Bayern, we get alerted, Tillman's head gets turned and we can't compete.
Point is, there's no value in waiting apart from following a process. Your way is exactly how I'd imagine speccy approaching the situation. Then ultimately making a tit of it.
Where has the buy-back figure of £10 million came from? Have seen the £5 million fee to buy him being mentioned by some of the more reliable posters but was always under the impression we didnt know Bayerns buy backI’ve always thought this.
We get to buy him for £5m after his loan period but, if we choose to sell, Bayern get first option to buy him back for £10m
So, if true, my guess would be that, if Tillman continues to improve, the most well get for him is £10m because Bayern will buy him back, sell him on and keep the profit if more than £10m.
Is he not too deer?Hes Malik you know
Just give Bayern the doe
Why pay now? We have a right to buy at end of season, he’s our player at least until thenPay the fee tomorrow and get him signed permanently.
The boy is fucking brilliant and is going to be a star.
Touch of an angel, scores goals, sets them up, covers the whole of the park and nicks more balls than a bic razor.
If it was £10m he'd be worth every penny but at £5m it's a steal.
Didn’t think it was that high tbf.20 years old, playing his first proper run of first team football. He's been outstanding and he's improving every game.
5 million is a bargain
It’s what Bayern and others do, buy back is usually double the fee.Where has the buy-back figure of £10 million came from? Have seen the £5 million fee to buy him being mentioned by some of the more reliable posters but was always under the impression we didnt know Bayerns buy back
Anyone got a strong opinion on whether the player will actually want to come here permanently?
Any time I've seen him interviewed and asked about it, he's always appeared pretty coy and non-committal on the subject.
Nowhere worthwhile, just someone's guess that probably started on here and has seemingly turned into fact.Where has the buy-back figure of £10 million came from? Have seen the £5 million fee to buy him being mentioned by some of the more reliable posters but was always under the impression we didnt know Bayerns buy back
He's a good prospect.
£5m seems steep but if it's part of a plan to then sell in season 3 for £15M then perhaps it could work.
Risky though.
He needs to be more consistent.
I also wonder if he needs to bulk up or that would slow him down
He’s not at the level Bayern need right now. I guess that’s why a buy back clause was inserted- if stories are to be believed?Agreed, my fear now is his performances continue to get better and bigger clubs start sniffing around, or Bayern like what they see!
just a free-thinker and not a sheepAfter reading a few of your posts I'm convinced you've never actually watched Tillman play or he's shagged your mrs.
Bulk up? Players bounce off him ffs.
I guess someone as naive or stupid as you would think that…Your either naive or stupid, i'm guessing a bit of both.
Kent was £7M and on his day he is best player in league and was the difference in big european ties."£5m seems steep."
Some fans are mentally scarred from the Banter Years era and everything that went down. £5m is really f*ck all in the grand scheme of things — particularly for a 20-year-old, US international with Bundesliga experience at Bayern Munich.
If £5m is deemed steep for Tillman then I have no idea how we go about building squad. There are times when a team simply has to front up the cash and the kid is as big a banker you'll find.
Has Morelos shagged yours?After reading a few of your posts I'm convinced you've never actually watched Tillman play or he's shagged your mrs.
Bulk up? Players bounce off him ffs.
£5m for a lad who can play like Tillman is not steep, it's a steal!He's a good prospect.
£5m seems steep but if it's part of a plan to then sell in season 3 for £15M then perhaps it could work.
Risky though.
He needs to be more consistent.
I also wonder if he needs to bulk up or that would slow him down
"£5m seems steep."
Some fans are mentally scarred from the Banter Years era and everything that went down. £5m is really f*ck all in the grand scheme of things — particularly for a 20-year-old, US international with Bundesliga experience at Bayern Munich.
If £5m is deemed steep for Tillman then I have no idea how we go about building squad. There are times when a team simply has to front up the cash and the kid is as big a banker you'll find.
I don't disagree with you, and I hope you're right. It's just what I've felt watching his interviews, particularly after the Aberdeen semi-final.Why wouldn’t he. Regular football, European football, opportunity to develop further, chance to win trophies, playing for a big club.
I’m sure Michael Beale said he was quite shy so that may come across in his interviews?
And the main thing, he’s got his own song.
we will waste more money buying players around in and around the million mark than we will even if we spent £10m on Malik.Yeah our fans don't really understand the market all that well, hence some of the really mental takes you read on the transfer threads. Bayern could make double that selling Tillman out on the open market in the summer.
Also seen people worried about the buy back clause too, we aren't getting a player as good as Tillman without spending similar amounts of cash or accepting the strings that are attached. What were we looking at for Fulgini in the summer? About 7 or 8 million and a lot of our fans were raging that we didn't pull the trigger or that we failed to get it over the line. Fulgini is 6 years older than Malik and we weren't allowed the luxury of a try before we buy to see if he settles in Scotland, he didn't in Germany for instance. As far as risks are concerned, Malik Tillman would be the least risky amount we'll spend next summer.
Shhhh dont tell them thatMental to think that if we pay Bayern £5m for Tillman then they're the ones getting bumped in the deal.
we will waste more money buying players around in and around the million mark than we will even if we spent £10m on Malik.
Hes a cracking player with bags of potential. Exactly who we should be signing.
As beale says, he wants first teamers, not squad or project players.