Mary the Provo confirms 'Ooh ah up the 'Ra' is celtic's anthem

If you agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment and there is a point to it, which can be expanded to include such anthems as the British National Anthem and of course the French National Anthem, then if we as individuals are going to allow space for such cultural and traditional songs and to grow a set us people and not be eternally offended by their existence and usage, then surely this allows for a song as old as The Billy Boys to also be awarded such a cultural and tribal expressional free pass and of course, the same deferent social defence?

Because if cultural expression becomes a one-way street, all we are left with is the persecution of those who are facing the wrong way and I think history tells us where that ends.

Perhaps Speirs would like to challenge her on her views. He can then get her song banned or admit that getting ours banned wasnt justified.

Come on Graham, time to step up and play. Its your game after all.
 
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Sturgeons new pal.
 
All around these islands it is bubbling up to be very problematic.

Interesting times ahead.

Those against Republicanism in both Scotland and across the water really need to sit up get our act together. There is a big wake up call coming our way.
Bring it on , hopefully we will be ready, get ready for battle , no surrender
 
Maybe we could have her petition UEFA to have the Billy Boys dropped from their banned list, since she doesn't want to spend her time "being offended at everything". Just a thought.
 
If you agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment and there is a point to it, which can be expanded to include such anthems as the British National Anthem and of course the French National Anthem, then if we as individuals are going to allow space for such cultural and traditional songs and to grow a set us people and not be eternally offended by their existence and usage, then surely this allows for a song as old as The Billy Boys to also be awarded such a cultural and tribal expressional free pass and of course, the same deferent social defence?

Because if cultural expression becomes a one-way street, all we are left with is the persecution of those who are facing the wrong way and I think history tells us where that ends.


A point all the apologists tripping over them selves to keep our song book pc would do well to remember.
 
I was under the impression (as unpopular as it is on here) that Northern Ireland wasn't in any way financially advantageous to Southern Ireland and that they had no appetite for a united Ireland on that basis. Is that wrong?
Everyone I know from the Republic of Ireland would support a united Ireland if there was a referendum. Polls on the subject show an overwhelming support with only 14% being opposed to the idea (66% in favour 20% no opinion)
 
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Female politics professor from an English University, under 40, on this week and talked of "Mary Lou" and "Thatcher". Not difficult to see where her allegiances lay.
 
" we have to accept that there are certain cultural and political markers "

Wow, but we have to sit back and shut up, we are not allowed our songs, voice our beliefs, promote our traditions, the list goes on, but this mob can come out with statements like that and we have to yet again sit back, shut up and put up!

God, if we say anything that may offend "timmy" we are threatened with sectarian and racism courses at least through to fans having been jailed. Time for us to stop worrying about offending them and not making it so easy for them to take our country and not just shutting us up.
 
Between Adams and McDonald Sinn Fein/IRA has cornered the market in the creepiest and most loathsome pair of b@stards Ireland has ever produced. And when I hear that feckin strident voice of hers, it always tells me she'd be a lot happier with a gun in her hand (in that thought the accompanying balaclava would be a bonus).

And the RoI is now a progressive, liberal and modern society? The votes for her and her vile party suggests otherwise.
 
All around these islands it is bubbling up to be very problematic.

Interesting times ahead.

Those against Republicanism in both Scotland and across the water really need to sit up get our act together. There is a big wake up call coming our way.
Former leader on rape charges and Bombs on the doorstep of Glasgow University didn't work on the ballot papers, something needs to register
 
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SF have less than a quarter of the vote in NI and pretty much the same in the free state, I'm sick of hearing their view on everything this past week as if they have some big majority and the voice of the poor oppressed Catholics/Palestinians.

Weird how their rise in the south isn't being painted as the rise of nationalism like we hear in other elections across Europe. How do these rats paint themselves as cuddly nationalism when they have one of the biggest body counts in Europe? And more worryingly why does the rest of the world lap it up?
 
I was always under the impression that the modern ROI preferred to distance themselves from the lunatic mentally challenged fringe waving the tricolour.

After the political success of SF recently I’m starting to wonder.
The ROI has never been, nor will ever be friendly to Northern Ireland Protestants. People may try and dress it up otherwise but scratch the surface and their hatred comes out.
 
SF have less than a quarter of the vote in NI and pretty much the same in the free state, I'm sick of hearing their view on everything this past week as if they have some big majority and the voice of the poor oppressed Catholics/Palestinians.

Weird how their rise in the south isn't being painted as the rise of nationalism like we hear in other elections across Europe. How do these rats paint themselves as cuddly nationalism when they have one of the biggest body counts in Europe? And more worryingly why does the rest of the world lap it up?

The pen is mightier than the sword. Its propaganda pure and simple.

Naizis against a 'united' Kingdom but in favour of a 'united' Ireland.
 
Mmm "And if we're going to take them literally or take offence we're going to spend our whole time being offended and I don't think there's any positive return in that for any of us."

Why do we need to stop signing songs then?
 
All around these islands it is bubbling up to be very problematic.

Interesting times ahead.

Those against Republicanism in both Scotland and across the water really need to sit up get our act together. There is a big wake up call coming our way.
As is the norm, the loyalist,unionist, Protestant population will say or do nothing.
 
SF have less than a quarter of the vote in NI and pretty much the same in the free state, I'm sick of hearing their view on everything this past week as if they have some big majority and the voice of the poor oppressed Catholics/Palestinians.

Weird how their rise in the south isn't being painted as the rise of nationalism like we hear in other elections across Europe. How do these rats paint themselves as cuddly nationalism when they have one of the biggest body counts in Europe? And more worryingly why does the rest of the world lap it up?
Well said. Nationalist parties all over europe on the rise, but none as far as I'm aware have a military arsenal stashed away.

The chattering classes seem to love them. someday they may come to regret that.
 
It was a shocking vote. They have some vile scum elected. Dessie Ellis has murdered over 50 people. Tully is the ex-wife of McAuley the scum wh mudered a policeman in Limerick. He also beat her up. She still stood for SF and played sectarian songs during her election. The Clare candidate owes a charity 12K after refusing to pay them rent on her dirt cheap house for 5 years. Still refusing as SF voters all live in a socialist pradise with everything for free. Cullinane in Waterford was filmed shouting "up the RA" in a local pub.

They are still hated by the vast majority.
 
Rancid bastard FC. - We apologise for any racist behaviour towards Alfredo Morelos. - Naw.
Rancid bastard FC. - We deplore any connections towards violent Irish Republican murder gangs. - Naw.
Rancid bastard FC. - We condemn the paedophile ring that operated within our club for decades and sincerely apologise to the hundreds of families we've destroyed. - Naw.

Sickening shower of scum!!
Them to a tee.

Our team right now ain't the best but I'd take that any day rather than be one of them, in fact I'd take Rangers playing junior football. They are disgusting and you couldn't mark their kneck with a blow torch.

You would think if there are any decent ones they would stop going, but they don't because deep down they are all the same.
 
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A southern RC voter for SF last week is more likely to be a protest vote against the 2 “establishment parties” rather than - as Mary Lou McDonut will claim - is a vote wanting a United Ireland. The ROI healthcare and social housing scenario is up the creek, the last thing they want is a pile of wasters from the Creggan and Andystown, along with a significant number of peeved off unionists.
also are they not anti EU, while all other parties are pro EU, so they will by default get all the Irexit vote.
 
Shows how sturgeon sees Scotlands future going when she is in cahoots with this lot.
On Question Time the other night Joanna Cherry mentioned that in the near future she may see an independent Scotland being in the EU with a united Ireland - scary stuff.
 
Their pro EU stance is a very recent development.

TBH, I cannot even remember much discussion from any NI party over Europe until Brexit. Up to that point it wasn’t high on anyone’s agenda, but once the Chukkies saw the potential EU gravy train for their pet projects running out, they decided they were very much European.
 
On Question Time the other night Joanna Cherry mentioned that in the near future she may see an independent Scotland being in the EU with a united Ireland - scary stuff.
With people like cherry, sturgeon and snp mps having meetings with irish republicans and talking up a united Ireland, it is obvious they have devising plans to assist each other. The snp is now to far gone down this road and is so obsessed with independence, to the detriment of public services, that Scotland's future in their hands is looking more and more unstable by the day.
 
Shows how sturgeon sees Scotlands future going when she is in cahoots with this lot.
Cant believe what Scotland has become. The fact remains that the SNP would all too gladly team up with rhats like SF than be friends and cooperate with England. Truly staggering.
 
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