Men who built clubs and are 'creators' of the club..

Earl of Leven

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#1
Yes I'm bored!

Leeds United - when Revie was given job they were 4th best supported club in Leeds (after both rugby codes and cricket) and had no trophies to their name. In fact they had been in regional league for a while. EVERYTHING we think of as Leeds United was down to him.

Auxerre - Guy Roux took over in 1961 when they were regional league amateur side. By the time he left they had won the league, 5 cups, and reached UEFA Cup semi final.

Man U - very brief success pre WW1 (just after being reborn in 1902) but after WW1 were relegated and became a yo yo team, with a best finish of 10th. Busby arrived at end of WW2 and it all began: the youth system, the attacking play, the European games under floodlights etc....the myth was born. They were almost nothing before he arrived.

Anyone think of any others I might have missed?
 

Leo_Ger

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#3
Yes I'm bored!

Leeds United - when Revie was given job they were 4th best supported club in Leeds (after both rugby codes and cricket) and had no trophies to their name. In fact they had been in regional league for a while. EVERYTHING we think of as Leeds United was down to him.

Auxerre - Guy Roux took over in 1961 when they were regional league amateur side. By the time he left they had won the league, 5 cups, and reached UEFA Cup semi final.

Man U - very brief success pre WW1 (just after being reborn in 1902) but after WW1 were relegated and became a yo yo team, with a best finish of 10th. Busby arrived at end of WW2 and it all began: the youth system, the attacking play, the European games under floodlights etc....the myth was born. They were almost nothing before he arrived.

Anyone think of any others I might have missed?
 
#10
"Stein at the Yahoos. 2 titles in 30 years before he came in. The equivalent of Aberdeen today. Going nowhere. Four figure crowds and burning effigies of Blob Kelly."

Also factor in their appalling crowds. I had an old uncle who had followed Rangers since the 1930's He always felt that our biggest rivals were Hearts, Hibs and Dundee. Only really late on in his life (died 1981) were Celtic a regular challenger. Hard to believe that for most of his life Old Firm games were mostly a twice a season side show as we were up against must better challengers.
 

RFC4ME

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#12
Pochettino and his work at Spurs in recent years has been pretty impressive I reckon.

His work surpasses that of a Mancini or Pellegrini at City despite their trophies.

He (Pochettino) has left a hell of a foot print at Spurs and worked wonders with players

Wengers work at Arsenal was pretty excellent for a while as well.
 
#13
Lobanovksy - Dynamo Kyiv
Lattek - Bayern
Herrera - Inter (60s)
Sacchi - Milan (80s)

Probably loads of others who could be said to have made a telling contribution to the identity, dna and success of their clubs. Some even as players, such as Cruyff at Ajax or Beckenbauer at Bayern
 
#16
Albert Batteux at Reims, made them the force in French Football in the 1950's by winning 5 League titles and taking them to two European Cup Finals, both lost to a dominant Real Madrid and in between taking time to take France to 3rd place in the 1958 World Cup.

Robert Herbin at Saint Etienne, won 5 French League titles and 3 French Cups as a player before becoming their manager and winning a further 4 League titles, 3 French Cups and a European Cup Final. He also brought through a crop of youngsters that became the spine of their greatest team including Santini, Janvion, Rocheteau who were later joined by a young Platini.
 

Earl of Leven

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#17
"Stein at the Yahoos. 2 titles in 30 years before he came in. The equivalent of Aberdeen today. Going nowhere. Four figure crowds and burning effigies of Blob Kelly."

Also factor in their appalling crowds. I had an old uncle who had followed Rangers since the 1930's He always felt that our biggest rivals were Hearts, Hibs and Dundee. Only really late on in his life (died 1981) were Celtic a regular challenger. Hard to believe that for most of his life Old Firm games were mostly a twice a season side show as we were up against must better challengers.
They were most known for 'bottle parties' and Third Lanark in particular had a player and official attacked during crowd trouble...they were behind the attempt to force SFA to 'de Irish' Celtic as they were a scum team for scum fans.
 
#20
Scot Symon at East Fife?

In his 6 years there (1947-1953) he first gained promotion to the top tier as Division 2 champions, and won the League Cup.
He then went on to win another League Cup and also reached the final of the Scottish Cup. In his final season he was still in the running for the League title with a couple of games to play (finished 3rd four points behind Rangers).
 
#21
Shanks awoke the sleeping giant that was Liverpool and laid the foundations for them to become, in my opinion, the greatest club side the world has ever seen.
Despite 2 CLs in 30 years, they are still in slumber.
Shank's Biography backs all of that. Languishing in the lower Divs he whipped them into the team they became. Liked the red shorts introduction and the games he played to put the fear in opponents. Often wondered why Everton never reached Liverpool's heights. Had the crowds and the money. Was it lack of a Shankly or Paisley?
 

QC Wine

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#25
Lobanovksy - Dynamo Kyiv
Lattek - Bayern
Herrera - Inter (60s)
Sacchi - Milan (80s)

Probably loads of others who could be said to have made a telling contribution to the identity, dna and success of their clubs. Some even as players, such as Cruyff at Ajax or Beckenbauer at Bayern

Lobanovksy - Dynamo Kyiv - great shout OV
 

derbyloyal

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#27
You could argue Allardyce at Bolton in recent history, they've certainly gone to shit since he left them.

Bill Nicholson at Spurs.

Alf Ramsay at Ipswich (although Bobby Robson had a fantastic time there a few years later)
 
#29
Agree. Don't doubt Mr Struth's influence but if anyone should be thought of then its William Wilton.
An underappreciated post. Wilton was Match Secretary for the season we won every game in the league - a feat unmatched in British football. He was then appointed our first ever manager.

I'd love one of the History Bears to do a piece on William Wilton.
 

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