Miller

Blue Tack

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He has way too much influence ,when the players train he stands with Murty and watches at times as if he’s part of the management team,fact .

He’s becoming a poisonous influence if you ask me ,he needs to go .
 

Union Jack 1872

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He is part of the management team it's 100% a fact .

Miller epitomises all that's wrong with Scottish football ball , Resistant to change all these funny foreigners coming over and trying to change things.

We would have won our last 2 games with Pedro in charge.
 

dh1963

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No one is making up shit , As said numerous times before Miller has caused massive problems behind the scenes and at least 1 board member is less than Impressed with his actions.

Murty is getting free reign just now just wait and see what happens to Miller when we get a new manager In and get to the transfer window .
Let's look at what we know.

Murty has been acting manager before - last time, he had Miller available to him and picked him. Nobody said that time he wasn't picking the team. Yet this time he has decided that even though he would actually quite like to be manager, he will just bugger his chances by letting a player do his job and go along with it.
JJ was first team coach under Pedro and was first hand whatever happened between him and Miller. The minute Pedro goes, he is quite happy to bring Miller back. He is a man who wants to stay at the club, but he also will put that in doubt by letting a player walk all over him and ruin his chances.

Lets look at what you're saying.

2 managers have been sacked because of the backstabbing of one player, a player so powerful that the rest of the dressing room all play crap just so he can get his way and ditch the manager he dislikes.
The current management team are just stooges and they allow a player to do whatever he wants, including deciding who plays even when the management team disagree.
A member of the board wants that player removed, but the rest on the board are quite happy to allow him to run the place even though it's not his job.

I think looking at the evidence, I'll conclude it's all shit.
 

dh1963

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He is part of the management team it's 100% a fact .

Miller epitomises all that's wrong with Scottish football ball , Resistant to change all these funny foreigners coming over and trying to change things.

We would have won our last 2 games with Pedro in charge.
The same Pedro whose last 2 games were an embarrassing defeat at Hampden then a pitiful home draw to Kilmarnock?
The same Pedro who won 1 home game in 7?
The same Pedro who lost in Europe to a team no better than Brechin City?

Aye, he was the man.

Nationality irrelevant, he was bloody garbage and the fact we are a pathetic laughing stock on the park is far more down to him and who appointed him that it is to do with any one player.

This reminds me of the folk in here who still wanted PLG when Walter was taking us into Euro finals. Deluded doesn't begin to describe it.
 

The Ultimate Warrior

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He plays because the alternatives are Pena, Herrera, Dalcio etc - the scenario where Miller does not play is every bit as shit as the pot of gold that supposedly exists when he is dropped

He plays because the man who supposedly knew what a problem is GAVE him a contract extension and could not replace him

In a list of "why is Miller an issue" Miller is way down the list

Kenny Miller has done things for Rangers and outwith the word of a man who was a dugggg shit manager there is very little to validate a lot of the shit thrown his way on here
 

Union Jack 1872

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Let's look at what we know.

Murty has been acting manager before - last time, he had Miller available to him and picked him. Nobody said that time he wasn't picking the team. Yet this time he has decided that even though he would actually quite like to be manager, he will just bugger his chances by letting a player do his job and go along with it.
JJ was first team coach under Pedro and was first hand whatever happened between him and Miller. The minute Pedro goes, he is quite happy to bring Miller back. He is a man who wants to stay at the club, but he also will put that in doubt by letting a player walk all over him and ruin his chances.

Lets look at what you're saying.

2 managers have been sacked because of the backstabbing of one player, a player so powerful that the rest of the dressing room all play crap just so he can get his way and ditch the manager he dislikes.
The current management team are just stooges and they allow a player to do whatever he wants, including deciding who plays even when the management team disagree.
A member of the board wants that player removed, but the rest on the board are quite happy to allow him to run the place even though it's not his job.

I think looking at the evidence, I'll conclude it's all shit.
I am sure more than one board member isn't happy with Miller but as I only know one then I won't attempt to speak for the rest , Miller won't be at Ibrox after the summer possibly not even Christmas.

You choose to believe what you want I know what has gone on .

Miller is pulling Murtys strings just the same as he was running about telling everyone that would listen how he was going to get rid of Pedro not long after he was in the door.

Similar story towards the end of Warburtons reign .

Kenny Miller wants the managers job but thankfully will never get it .
 

Union Jack 1872

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The same Pedro whose last 2 games were an embarrassing defeat at Hampden then a pitiful home draw to Kilmarnock?
The same Pedro who won 1 home game in 7?
The same Pedro who lost in Europe to a team no better than Brechin City?

Aye, he was the man.

Nationality irrelevant, he was bloody garbage and the fact we are a pathetic laughing stock on the park is far more down to him and who appointed him that it is to do with any one player.

This reminds me of the folk in here who still wanted PLG when Walter was taking us into Euro finals. Deluded doesn't begin to describe it.
PLG had us outstanding in Europe it was in the domestic league we were poor.

He also had very little cash to spend compared to what Walter did when he came in.

I agree Pedro needed to go but we wouldn't have lost 2 on the bounce to both the bottom teams in the league if he was still here.
 

Union Jack 1872

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He plays because the alternatives are Pena, Herrera, Dalcio etc - the scenario where Miller does not play is every bit as shit as the pot of gold that supposedly exists when he is dropped

He plays because the man who supposedly knew what a problem is GAVE him a contract extension and could not replace him

In a list of "why is Miller an issue" Miller is way down the list

Kenny Miller has done things for Rangers and outwith the word of a man who was a dugggg shit manager there is very little to validate a lot of the shit thrown his way on here
Plenty to validate it but you sink your head further in the sand .
 

The Ultimate Warrior

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I am sure more than one board member isn't happy with Miller but as I only know one then I won't attempt to speak for the rest , Miller won't be at Ibrox after the summer possibly not even Christmas.

You choose to believe what you want I know what has gone on .

Miller is pulling Murtys strings just the same as he was running about telling everyone that would listen how he was going to get rid of Pedro not long after he was in the door.

Similar story towards the end of Warburtons reign .

Kenny Miller wants the managers job but thankfully will never get it .

A load of bollocks that - if there was validity in that he would have been away in the summer
 

dh1963

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I am sure more than one board member isn't happy with Miller but as I only know one then I won't attempt to speak for the rest , Miller won't be at Ibrox after the summer possibly not even Christmas.

You choose to believe what you want I know what has gone on .

Miller is pulling Murtys strings just the same as he was running about telling everyone that would listen how he was going to get rid of Pedro not long after he was in the door.

Similar story towards the end of Warburtons reign .

Kenny Miller wants the managers job but thankfully will never get it .
Oh no, its another ITK guy who has the inside story...

I absolutely believe he has influence in the dressing room, voices an opinion to staff and speaks his mind.
That makes him no different from experienced players in dressing rooms all over the world, and just the same as countless players we've had over the years.
When it comes to pointing fingers at why we are so awful a team, Miller is a mile down the list of where the blame lies, and the constant threads from the same folk day after day trying to paint him as the big bad guy is still I believe to be agenda driven nonsense.

This all started when Sutton had his rant about the Ibrox rat.
Chris bloody Sutton.
 

Union Jack 1872

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Oh no, its another ITK guy who has the inside story...

I absolutely believe he has influence in the dressing room, voices an opinion to staff and speaks his mind.
That makes him no different from experienced players in dressing rooms all over the world, and just the same as countless players we've had over the years.
When it comes to pointing fingers at why we are so awful a team, Miller is a mile down the list of where the blame lies, and the constant threads from the same folk day after day trying to paint him as the big bad guy is still I believe to be agenda driven nonsense.

This all started when Sutton had his rant about the Ibrox rat.
Chris bloody Sutton.
Nothing to do with Mutton in the slightest.

I know what I know and have absolutely no need to explain myself just happens that I've been In the company of a certain board member on numerous occasions over the last 20 or so years.

You go ahead and keep telling yourself Miller ain't poisoning the team from the inside out .
 

The Ultimate Warrior

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Ok mate it's all made up lies ,

Honestly some people need to wake up.
Yeah sure - there is an element of fantasy to it

Miller helped chase Warburton - by doing what whispering in his ear to go to Forrest and helping stall contract talks in the summer we were promoted?

And even if he did and they rumours were true the board disregaeded that and sanctioned a contract extension for Miller ?

Pedro was then removed based purely on the actions of Miller (like seriously but aye) and the board took the word of Miller

And they now have a temp manager and will appoint a further manager rather than just going with Miller despite the validity his opinion holds

All of this has happened and you know this but seemingly the board have been left out of this 2+2=78 scenario

Nah you aren't making sense at all
 

Union Jack 1872

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Yeah sure - there is an element of fantasy to it

Miller helped chase Warburton - by doing what whispering in his ear to go to Forrest and helping stall contract talks in the summer we were promoted?

And even if he did and they rumours were true the board disregaeded ?

Pedro was then removed based purely on the actions of Miller (like seriously but aye) and the board took the word of Miller

And they now have a temp manager and will appoint a further manager rather than just going with Miller despite the validity his opinion holds

Nah you aren't making sense at all
Miller was running up the stairs bad mouthing First Warburton then Pedro this is fact.

The board didn't get rid of Pedro down to Miller I didn't say that .

He upset the Harmony of the squad especially when he was dropped for Pena but had been at it long before.

Is that clear enough for you ?
 

The Ultimate Warrior

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Miller was running up the stairs bad mouthing First Warburton then Pedro this is fact.

The board didn't get rid of Pedro down to Miller I didn't say that .

He upset the Harmony of the squad especially when he was dropped for Pena but had been at it long before.

Is that clear enough for you ?
Nope......

Warburton left because he went behind the back of the club looking for a job and fell out with the club over a contract - Miller didn't need to bad mouth anyone

Pedro left because we were racking up a list of shambolic results under him and he wasted the boards money

The word of Miller in the grand scheme of both mens departure is utterly moot.

Even an imaginary issue with Miller and squad harmony only adds weight to a situation Pedro could not manage - he let every single element of the job run away from them - he was not up to the job even you are saying that

So sure your view on life is clear but even as someone who isn't "in the know" there is enough to blow your theory to bits
 

Blue Tack

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Why on earth would we keep Kenny Miller ?

Why ?

What value does he bring ?

A 38yr old playing up top as a first choice striker for Glasgow Rangers ,think about that for a minute ,read it back ,that’s how low we’ve sunk .

At the first opportunity KM needs to go .
 

Union Jack 1872

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Nope......

Warburton left because he went behind the back of the club looking for a job and fell out with the club over a contract - Miller didn't need to bad mouth anyone

Pedro left because we were racking up a list of shambolic results under him and he wasted the boards money

The word of Miller in the grand scheme of both mens departure is utterly moot.

Even an imaginary issue with Miller and squad harmony only adds weight to a situation Pedro could not manage - he let every single element of the job run away from them - he was not up to the job even you are saying that

So sure your view on life is clear but even as someone who isn't "in the know" there is enough to blow your theory to bits
Ok so a board member is making all this up .

Miller has been trying to get his self the managers job or at least on to
The coaching staff since Warburton.

Running up the stairs telling tales and undermining both managers.

His nose was also massively put out of Joint as he didn't even get considered for the No3 position wonder why that was .
 

dh1963

Well-Known Member
Miller was running up the stairs bad mouthing First Warburton then Pedro this is fact.

The board didn't get rid of Pedro down to Miller I didn't say that .

He upset the Harmony of the squad especially when he was dropped for Pena but had been at it long before.

Is that clear enough for you ?
So those upstairs are letting him away with it too?

Nobody at Ibrox can stop this one man wrecking crew, who just tramples over managers, coaches, other players and board members in his unstoppable quest to become Miller Rangers FC manager. And all those managers and coaches and players were so brilliant they would have succeeded if it wasn't for this one evil monster.
 

Blutoe

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2 managers have been chased because they were rotten at their job. Miller is just the scapegoat every time we lose, and the fact we have folk in here seemingly rather wanting to see Pena and Herrera than him tells me their personal dislike of Miller is more important than any football reasoning.

What if he is coaching the first team, so what? We sacked our coaching team and haven't replaced them weeks later. When clubs do that you often see them turning to their most experienced and respected players to help out until they put a new team in place.
Are you Kenny's wife?
 

The Ultimate Warrior

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Ok so a board member is making all this up .

Miller has been trying to get his self the managers job or at least on to
The coaching staff since Warburton.

Running up the stairs telling tales and undermining both managers.

His nose was also massively put out of Joint as he didn't even get considered for the No3 position wonder why that was .
You are making reference to this board member like that scenario exists though....

Miller is ballsy, ambitious and opinionated eh! Well %^*& me sideways who knew that!
 

Union Jack 1872

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So those upstairs are letting him away with it too?

Nobody at Ibrox can stop this one man wrecking crew, who just tramples over managers, coaches, other players and board members in his unstoppable quest to become Miller Rangers FC manager. And all those managers and coaches and players were so brilliant they would have succeeded if it wasn't for this one evil monster.
Not going to say anymore about the ins and outs all I will say is if he causes anymore problems he will be out the door that is if the new manager actually wants him around.
 

Union Jack 1872

Well-Known Member
You have been made posting rumours for weeks on this board and not one of them has happened. So excuse me if I think you are making shit up again.
What rumours have I posted for weeks ?

The Miller stuff isnt rumours it's fact and the way only thing I have any info on so please tell what else have I posted about?
 
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