Morelos

Tugay83

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1) Certainly and will do again.
2) yes but a LOT is down to victimisation from referees thanks to the mhedia.

We have a young guy thousands of miles from home being mercilessly hounded by the press which cannot help his mental strength.
This is bollocks. His poor disciplinary record is his own fault, not the media's fault.
 

RodVegas

Active Member
Has it not been discussed before and they’re not due anything like 10% (I think £14m far too low anyway- no chance Watkins is double the player Morelos is)
But he's English going to the premier league. English tax. Just how it is. We all know Alfie is easily worth that but the English clubs know SPL pedigree counts for nothing.
 

Coza

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This is bollocks. His poor disciplinary record is his own fault, not the media's fault.
The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Some ‘staunch’ posters in here will tell you Morelos is never ever to blame for his soft bookings - which is wrong.

Some naive posters in here will tell you Morelos whenever he is carded is to blame and is disrespecting the club and his team mates with the selfish bookings he picks up.

Morelos undoubtedly picks up stupidly soft yellows a lot because of his own actions but he also gets carded for aspects of the game the red will ignore from another player in the same game. And in the later incidents to ignore the media input into these bookings is daft but it’s also equally daft to ignore the reputation he also helped them build about him with his own moments of madness.
 

Marc-WATP-1872

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The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Some ‘staunch’ posters in here will tell you Morelos is never ever to blame for his soft bookings - which is wrong.

Some naive posters in here will tell you Morelos whenever he is carded is to blame and is disrespecting the club and his team mates with the selfish bookings he picks up.

Morelos undoubtedly picks up stupidly soft yellows a lot because of his own actions but he also gets carded for aspects of the game the red will ignore from another player in the same game. And in the later incidents to ignore the media input into these bookings is daft but it’s also equally daft to ignore the reputation he also helped them build about him with his own moments of madness.
This is spot on, even gerrard has said he plays on the edge so he is going to undoubtedly pick up yellow cards but he has to be more clever when on a yellow card, i actually thought last season it was fully behind him
 

Rudolph Hucker

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The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Some ‘staunch’ posters in here will tell you Morelos is never ever to blame for his soft bookings - which is wrong.

Some naive posters in here will tell you Morelos whenever he is carded is to blame and is disrespecting the club and his team mates with the selfish bookings he picks up.

Morelos undoubtedly picks up stupidly soft yellows a lot because of his own actions but he also gets carded for aspects of the game the red will ignore from another player in the same game. And in the later incidents to ignore the media input into these bookings is daft but it’s also equally daft to ignore the reputation he also helped them build about him with his own moments of madness.
Away with your common sense - it has no place on a thread like this.:)

He's definitely refereed to a different standard, and the media definitely focus on him to an unhealthy and unfair degree. But he still does things which give refs the excuse to card him, and he just doesn't learn that, unfair as it is, he has to be cleaner than any other player or he's going to suffer for it.
 

JMCK

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We’re not getting £20 Million unfortunately but keep believing.
What's clear is that Rangers has its price, for all the players, just like every other club. I admire the club standing it's ground in these situations more, and if the worse case scenario is a player staying then that, in this case our top scorer and someone who plays formidably in European competitions, is a worse case scenario I can happily live with.
 

Desert Loyal

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When you see Ajer getting a pricetag 'slapped on' of 15 million (I know :)) WTAF) then at least 20 million is what we should expect and not a penny less. Other than that, the quicker he starts banging the goals in the quicker the move he seems to want will materialise.
 

TinyRick

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He absolutely is held to a different standard.

I can't remember the game last season, but Halliday was playing. Halliday did the exact same throwing an arm out in exasperation at a shite decision as Morelos, in fact I think Halliday was actually shouting and bawling at the ref from close quarters, no booking. Alfie did the same arm gesture 20 yds from the ref and was booked for 'petulance'.
 

willieorwont_he

Active Member
Time on our side?

I can’t agree with that. He’s made clear he wants to move on.

If we don’t sell him in this window, his value drops in January IMO, because I don’t believe it’s likely he’ll recapture his form of 2019.

Some posters seem to think he’ll knuckle down to get his big move in January. It may well happen but the evidence so far doesn’t point to this.

Even if he ends up on the bench most weeks until January, teams will still take a punt on him in January but probably no more than £10m or so.
Sorry, been away.
I meant the window is open for another month.
I agree that he needs to be moved this window for max profit.
 

willieorwont_he

Active Member
When you see Ajer getting a pricetag 'slapped on' of 15 million (I know :)) WTAF) then at least 20 million is what we should expect and not a penny less. Other than that, the quicker he starts banging the goals in the quicker the move he seems to want will materialise.
Ayer's a donkey, they will be lucky to get 8 for him.
 

theateam

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This is bollocks. His poor disciplinary record is his own fault, not the media's fault.
Oh because the guy question's crazy refereeing decisions, gets booted up n doon the park, has wee fly slaps and kicks at him off the ball, away and bile yir heid.
 

MurciaBear

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He’s been rotten in 2020 so he certainly isn’t our star man now.
And yet when he came on at the weekend, I thought he looked really good and very committed. His effort was spot on. Players on here go from being a God one week to the antichrist the next.
Yes, Jan and Feb he wasn't good...but who in the team was?? In the here and now he's an asset in the search for 55..that will be his legacy and his price will reflect that when he does move on.
Wife...get me another beer:))
 
Utter pish
Two sending offs rescinded but still referred too in the media as sending offs.Every.
game in that period virtually had a “Morelos cam” on sky/Bbc
Not saying he was totally blameless but to suggest
That it was all his fault is Bollocks
Aye and never mind the blatant penalties for being toppled but receiving a yellow for diving, that’s his fault as well.
 

RfcIbrox

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The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Some ‘staunch’ posters in here will tell you Morelos is never ever to blame for his soft bookings - which is wrong.

Some naive posters in here will tell you Morelos whenever he is carded is to blame and is disrespecting the club and his team mates with the selfish bookings he picks up.

Morelos undoubtedly picks up stupidly soft yellows a lot because of his own actions but he also gets carded for aspects of the game the red will ignore from another player in the same game. And in the later incidents to ignore the media input into these bookings is daft but it’s also equally daft to ignore the reputation he also helped them build about him with his own moments of madness.
middle ground doesn’t work. There has been a concerted media campaign against Morelos for almost all the time he has been here. Whether the motive is pro-scum, anti-Rangers or just selling newspapers and phone-ins is irrelevant t. The campaign has been Xenophobic, bitter, unreasonable and deeply insulting. Anyone who thinks otherwise is missing the point. Morelos has still not injured any other pro or put in a particularly bad challenge.
 

MacGyver

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And yet when he came on at the weekend, I thought he looked really good and very committed. His effort was spot on. Players on here go from being a God one week to the antichrist the next.
Yes, Jan and Feb he wasn't good...but who in the team was?? In the here and now he's an asset in the search for 55..that will be his legacy and his price will reflect that when he does move on.
Wife...get me another beer:))
when he came on at the weekend I thought we looked a far better and more dangerous team.
As someone said above, I hope he stays for the season and leaves with the league medal and a big %^*& your to everyone in Scottish football.
 

StirlingBear

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Id be amazed if Ally’s European appearances aren’t well above Alfie’s SB ?
I am unsure on the accuracy but from wiki it says 54 that being over about 15 seasons. Think only 3 of them we never qualified or he never took part. 87/88 He was joint top European Cup scorer with 4 goals. One of the players he shared the spot with was none other than Georgi Hagi.

I have no idea how many games Alfie has played in Europe for us but It must be around the 30 mark?

All Alfie's goals are from the Uefa cup but Supers are spread across a of Uefa, cup winners cup, European cup and Champions League.
 

Grigo Yossarian

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I am unsure on the accuracy but from wiki it says 54 that being over about 15 seasons. Think only 3 of them we never qualified or he never took part. 87/88 He was joint top European Cup scorer with 4 goals. One of the players he shared the spot with was none other than Georgi Hagi.

I have no idea how many games Alfie has played in Europe for us but It must be around the 30 mark?

All Alfie's goals are from the Uefa cup but Supers are spread across a of Uefa, cup winners cup, European cup and Champions League.
Thanks a lot mate.

Yes Alfie must be close to 30, as you say, as the EL Group stage took us to 14 a season, and we passed that last season. He played the vast majority of games too.
 

1288Bear

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middle ground doesn’t work. There has been a concerted media campaign against Morelos for almost all the time he has been here. Whether the motive is pro-scum, anti-Rangers or just selling newspapers and phone-ins is irrelevant t. The campaign has been Xenophobic, bitter, unreasonable and deeply insulting. Anyone who thinks otherwise is missing the point. Morelos has still not injured any other pro or put in a particularly bad challenge.
Concerted media campaign bought into and, in parts, repeated by a good few on this forum.
 

SuperGers07

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Got to keep him relatively involved, we’ve got potential suitors who will probably leave it late to make a move. He needs minutes. I’d probably start him tomorrow and see if he can get his name out there again.

Ultimately I think this will go to the last few days of the window.
 
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