Most Appearences.

Alex Venters

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I know Ronnie McKinnon made more appearences for us in the 1960's than anyone else.

Who are our top for

1920's,30's,40's etc through to the present decade.

It's not a quiz btw as I don't know the answer.
 
Dougie Gray will be up there in the 20s and 30s
...along with Meiklejohn and Morton in the 20's I'd guess.
Jerry Dawson and Bob McPhail must come into the reckoning for the 30's too.
George Young, Willie Waddell and Tiger Shaw for the 40's.
Maybe Ian McColl for the 50's or Eric Caldow?
Ronnie McKinnon is the winner for the 60's.
1970's you have Greig,Jardine,Johnstone,McLean,McDonald and McCloy in with a shout.
1980's Cooper & Russell must be close.
1990's McCoist,Ferguson,Gough
2000's Ferguson?
2010's Tav?
 
...along with Meiklejohn and Morton in the 20's I'd guess.
Jerry Dawson and Bob McPhail must come into the reckoning for the 30's too.
George Young, Willie Waddell and Tiger Shaw for the 40's.
Maybe Ian McColl for the 50's or Eric Caldow?
Ronnie McKinnon is the winner for the 60's.
1970's you have Greig,Jardine,Johnstone,McLean,McDonald and McCloy in with a shout.
1980's Cooper & Russell must be close.
1990's McCoist,Ferguson,Gough
2000's Ferguson?
2010's Tav?
Big jig in for a shout between 2000S n 10s
 
...along with Meiklejohn and Morton in the 20's I'd guess.
Jerry Dawson and Bob McPhail must come into the reckoning for the 30's too.
George Young, Willie Waddell and Tiger Shaw for the 40's.
Maybe Ian McColl for the 50's or Eric Caldow?
Ronnie McKinnon is the winner for the 60's.
1970's you have Greig,Jardine,Johnstone,McLean,McDonald and McCloy in with a shout.
1980's Cooper & Russell must be close.
1990's McCoist,Ferguson,Gough
2000's Ferguson?
2010's Tav?


Can't think of many players who played right throughout the 80s for us Alex.

McCoist must be near the top of the pile for appearances in that decade though.
 
Can't think of many players who played right throughout the 80s for us Alex.

McCoist must be near the top of the pile for appearances in that decade though.
Davie Cooper 1977-89 is the only one I can think of and would have played more games than McCoist, who didn't join till '83.

Ally Dawson is another who was there most of the 80's (1975-87), but missed a long spell with injuries.
 
Moses McNeill 33 appearances in the 70's
James 'tuck' McIntyre 85 appearances in the 80's
John McPherson 286 appearances in the 90's
Alec Smith 373 appearances in the 00's
Jimmy Gordon 325 appearances in the 10's
Sandy Archibald 478 appearances in the 20's
Dougie Gray 502 appearances in the 30's
Jock Shaw 508 appearances in the 40's
Ian McColl 457 appearances in the 50's
Ronnie McKinnon 418 appearances in the 60's
Sandy Jardine 537 appearances in the 70's
Davie Cooper 449 appearances in the 80's
Richard Gough 341 appearances in the 90's
Barry Ferguson 379 appearances in the 00's
Lee Wallace 257 appearances in the 10's
 
Moses McNeill 33 appearances in the 70's
James 'tuck' McIntyre 85 appearances in the 80's
John McPherson 286 appearances in the 90's
Alec Smith 373 appearances in the 00's
Jimmy Gordon 325 appearances in the 10's
Sandy Archibald 478 appearances in the 20's
Dougie Gray 502 appearances in the 30's
Jock Shaw 508 appearances in the 40's
Ian McColl 457 appearances in the 50's
Ronnie McKinnon 418 appearances in the 60's
Sandy Jardine 537 appearances in the 70's
Davie Cooper 449 appearances in the 80's
Richard Gough 341 appearances in the 90's
Barry Ferguson 379 appearances in the 00's
Lee Wallace 257 appearances in the 10's
Disappoints me greatly that Lee Wallace's name isn't on that HoF board.
 
Moses McNeill 33 appearances in the 70's
James 'tuck' McIntyre 85 appearances in the 80's
John McPherson 286 appearances in the 90's
Alec Smith 373 appearances in the 00's
Jimmy Gordon 325 appearances in the 10's
Sandy Archibald 478 appearances in the 20's
Dougie Gray 502 appearances in the 30's
Jock Shaw 508 appearances in the 40's
Ian McColl 457 appearances in the 50's
Ronnie McKinnon 418 appearances in the 60's
Sandy Jardine 537 appearances in the 70's
Davie Cooper 449 appearances in the 80's
Richard Gough 341 appearances in the 90's
Barry Ferguson 379 appearances in the 00's
Lee Wallace 257 appearances in the 10's
Are they the leading appearances or just a list of those who played
 
Here is an example of the 80's which tales in the seasons 79/80 to 89/90 I am in the process off breaking down the individual years but it all takes time, these record take in all competitions played in these seasons which were,

League, Scottish Cup, League Cup, European Cup, ECWC, UEFA Cup, Glasgow Cup and Drybrough Cup.

The table contents are, Player, Starts, Subs and Goals.

Davie Cooper 380 - 69 - 61
Ally McCoist 302 - 11 - 188
Ally Dawson 274 - 9 - 7
Bobby Russell 231 - 39 - 37
Ian Redford 218 - 32 - 42
Dave McPherson 209 - 18 - 29
Stuart Munro 206 - 10 - 3
Peter McCloy 197
Chris Woods 182
John McDonald 169 - 65 - 80
 
I'd say Henderson was at his best early to mid 60s mate, whereas Johnstone was probably mid to late 60s.

Whilst in direct competition Henderson won 27 Caps to Johnstone's 11,
and some of those 11 were gained at the expense of an injured Henderson.
Not much doubt here as to who was the better of the two.
Jimmy Johnstone won more than half of his 23 Caps, AFTER Willie Henderson had retired
from International football in April 1971.

Mid to late 60's (1965-69)
Henderson 16 Caps
Johnstone 7 Caps

Early to Mid 60's (1960-64)
Henderson 12 Caps
Johnstone 2 Caps
 
Whilst in direct competition Henderson won 27 Caps to Johnstone's 11,
and some of those 11 were gained at the expense of an injured Henderson.
Not much doubt here as to who was the better of the two.
Jimmy Johnstone won more than half of his 23 Caps, AFTER Willie Henderson had retired
from International football in April 1971.

Mid to late 60's (1965-69)
Henderson 16 Caps
Johnstone 7 Caps

Early to Mid 60's (1960-64)
Henderson 12 Caps
Johnstone 2 Caps


Cheers mate.

Not much doubt about who was the better winger there.

He must be ranked as our best Scottish born winger in at least the past 60 years, surely?


You don't have similar stats for McKinnon and McNeil by any chance?
 
Cheers mate.

Not much doubt about who was the better winger there.

He must be ranked as our best Scottish born winger in at least the past 60 years, surely?


You don't have similar stats for McKinnon and McNeil by any chance?

Aye ah dae!

During the time that both Billy McNeill, and Ronnie McKinnon were vying for that Centre Half spot for Scotland, the much less decorated McKinnon, won FOUR TIMES as many Caps for Scotland.
Ronnie McKinnon collected 28 Caps, between 1965 and 1971 whilst McNeill won 7 Caps during that well decorated span of his career.
Of McNeill's other 22 Caps, 19 came before McKinnon had played for Scotland, and 3 more came in the 72' Home Internationals after McKinnon was finished.

Billy McNeill got 29 Scotland Caps, in an 11 year International career, from the time he made his debut in that 3-9 Loss to England in 61', until a much more respectful 0-1 loss to England in 72'

Ronnie McKinnon got 28 Scotland Caps, in half that time, between Nov 65' and June 71'.

They were both good, but McKinnon was better, far better!
 
Aye ah dae!

During the time that both Billy McNeill, and Ronnie McKinnon were vying for that Centre Half spot for Scotland, the much less decorated McKinnon, won FOUR TIMES as many Caps for Scotland.
Ronnie McKinnon collected 28 Caps, between 1965 and 1971 whilst McNeill won 7 Caps during that well decorated span of his career.
Of McNeill's other 22 Caps, 19 came before McKinnon had played for Scotland, and 3 more came in the 72' Home Internationals after McKinnon was finished.

Billy McNeill got 29 Scotland Caps, in an 11 year International career, from the time he made his debut in that 3-9 Loss to England in 61', until a much more respectful 0-1 loss to England in 72'

Ronnie McKinnon got 28 Scotland Caps, in half that time, between Nov 65' and June 71'.

They were both good, but McKinnon was better, far better!


Brilliant info mate.

You've confirmed everything I've always been told by older generations in my family about the Henderson/Johnstone and McKinnon/McNeil comparisons.

I've seen footage of the full 90 minutes of 1967 game at Wembley and McKinnon was outstanding against Greaves and Hurst.

Jimmy Greaves actually said that McKinnon was the quickest defender he ever played against.

High praise indeed.
 
Brilliant info mate.

You've confirmed everything I've always been told by older generations in my family about the Henderson/Johnstone and McKinnon/McNeil comparisons.

I've seen footage of the full 90 minutes of 1967 game at Wembley and McKinnon was outstanding against Greaves and Hurst.

Jimmy Greaves actually said that McKinnon was the quickest defender he ever played against.

High praise indeed.

To give you an Idea of how good/highly rated Ronnie McKinnon was.

Billy McNeill was undoubtably Scotland's first choice Centre Half from 61-65, his only real rival was Ian Ure from the great Dundee team of the early 60's, before he moved to Arsenal in 63'.
From the time McNeill scored the winner in the 65' Scottish Cup Final to give Celtic their first Trophy in 7 years, he would go on to lead Celtic to 11 out of a possible 13 domestic Trophies, before the decade was over, and obviously their greatest triumph ever.
Despite that phenomenal success, it was his own Manager Jock Stein (Whilst manager of both Celtic and Scotland) who dropped McNeill from the Scotland side, and gave Ronnie McKinnon his International debut, in Nov 65',
and this was no meaningless Friendly, to bring in the untried, this was a must win World Cup Qualifier at home to Italy.
There was some serious competition around by the mid sixties, in Billy McNeill, Jackie McGrory, Ron Yeats, Ian Ure, Frank McLintock etc.
Ronnie McKinnon was above all of them, and would get the nod in 17 of the next 19 Internationals that Scotland played between that World Cup qualifier v Italy in Nov 65' until the WCQ v West Germany in April 69'.

Despite McNeill picking up all the trophies, and accolades during that period, there was simply no contest, as to who was the better Centre Half.
 
Big Slim McPherson had a 1 in 7 goal to game ratio !!! Attacking midfielders would be proud of that.
 
The problem arises when you have players who span different decades ( which is most of them)
Colin Jackson for instance, over 500 games but 3 different decades

Correct but the question asked was for each decade, below is a list of the top 25 all time appearances in all competitions played in.

The list heading is Player, Total App, Starts, Subs and Goals

Dougie Gray - 888 - 888 - 0 - 2
John Greig - 777 - 773 - 4 - 124
Sandy Jardine - 695 - 667 - 28 - 84
George Lewis Young - 663 - 663 - 0 - 62
Sandy Archibald - 652 - 652 - 0 - 166
Davie Meiklejohn - 632 - 632 - 0 - 52
Alec Smith - 610 - 610 - 0 - 195
Ian McColl - 594 - 594 - 0 - 17
Ally McCoist - 585 - 503 - 82 - 362
Jock Shaw - 584 - 584 - 0 - 4
Willie Waddell - 569 - 569 - 0 - 148
Derek Johnstone - 561 - 537 - 24 - 208
Davie Cooper - 552 - 474 - 78 - 79
Peter McCloy - 550 - 550 - 0 - 0
Colin Jackson - 527 - 524 - 3 - 41
Alex MacDonald - 521 - 495 - 26 - 99
Jerry Dawson - 514 - 514 - 0 - 0
Willie Woodburn - 504 - 504 - 0 - 2
Alan Morton - 494 - 494 - 0 - 117
Tommy Cairns - 489 - 489 - 0 - 157
Ronnie McKinnon - 488 - 488 - 0 - 4
 
Correct but the question asked was for each decade, below is a list of the top 25 all time appearances in all competitions played in.

The list heading is Player, Total App, Starts, Subs and Goals

Dougie Gray - 888 - 888 - 0 - 2
John Greig - 777 - 773 - 4 - 124
Sandy Jardine - 695 - 667 - 28 - 84
George Lewis Young - 663 - 663 - 0 - 62
Sandy Archibald - 652 - 652 - 0 - 166
Davie Meiklejohn - 632 - 632 - 0 - 52
Alec Smith - 610 - 610 - 0 - 195
Ian McColl - 594 - 594 - 0 - 17
Ally McCoist - 585 - 503 - 82 - 362
Jock Shaw - 584 - 584 - 0 - 4
Willie Waddell - 569 - 569 - 0 - 148
Derek Johnstone - 561 - 537 - 24 - 208
Davie Cooper - 552 - 474 - 78 - 79
Peter McCloy - 550 - 550 - 0 - 0
Colin Jackson - 527 - 524 - 3 - 41
Alex MacDonald - 521 - 495 - 26 - 99
Jerry Dawson - 514 - 514 - 0 - 0
Willie Woodburn - 504 - 504 - 0 - 2
Alan Morton - 494 - 494 - 0 - 117
Tommy Cairns - 489 - 489 - 0 - 157
Ronnie McKinnon - 488 - 488 - 0 - 4
I seen 9 of them playing
 
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