Nathan Young Coombes to West Ham

Kentbear

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if you are good enough a chance will come along, if you do not want to be at Ibrox on your way, Charlie Lindsay/James Graham and Tony Weston all really highly rated kids want to be around the place and that trio tells me there is little wrong.
 

CooperOnTheWing

Active Member
NYC looked a decent striker. I didn’t like some of his histrionics when things didn’t go his way though. I’m not sure if it was due to a Morelos imitation syndrome, but youth players should respect a referee and get on with it.
 

DCFC Ger

New Member
Another potential impact factor for this move could be how he felt during lockdown.

Being so young, away from family, being in a publicised vulnerable category group, must have been mentally horrendous for someone so young.

If he does go then good luck, I'd be surprised if he's critical of the club.
Good point - Covid has affected so many people and I feel the impact on the young so far from home isn't to be underestimated. Good luck to the lad.
 

Let's roll..

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They will play if they illustrate they are good enough. That seems to be missing in all of your analysis about the youth set-up. You used McPake as an example. How did his time at Dundee go?

The players I mentioned are on a 'pathway', be it through loans and gradual introduction to the first team squad. It's during this when we find out how good they really are.

Too many are failing to concentrate on their football and surround themselves with good people/advice. It's easier to blame than it is to take responsibility.

For those not signing contracts, it'll be interesting to see where they go. The Rangers coaches have developed their careers to this point - maybe they should have a little more trust for the future.
Where did trust get Aiden Wilson ,Matt shiels ,
They will play if they illustrate they are good enough. That seems to be missing in all of your analysis about the youth set-up. You used McPake as an example. How did his time at Dundee go?

The players I mentioned are on a 'pathway', be it through loans and gradual introduction to the first team squad. It's during this when we find out how good they really are.

Too many are failing to concentrate on their football and surround themselves with good people/advice. It's easier to blame than it is to take responsibility.

For those not signing contracts, it'll be interesting to see where they go. The Rangers coaches have developed their careers to this point - maybe they should have a little more trust for the future.
So are you saying they are ALL surrounding themselves with wrong people,give it up my friend get real,they're not on any pathway they're on a run to nowhere because we need to show something coming through to keep us the fans happy,but realistically not going to make the final step because we don't have trust,at what age do you feel you know if a youth is going to be good enough? Barjonas is 22 this year told not good enough 4 weeks ago gets 15 mins last week scores a goal and now the gaffer says we knew he had it' come on now don't play is for fools,Josh Mcpake at Dundee how much game time he get ?let's not forget it was us who put him there so who to blame ?and are we saying now he's not good enough for Dundee nevermind us?just seems like excuses all the time, let's look at the reports after Mcpake debut going to be new messi so what is he ready or not just seems like we build them up and then fold them is that the lads faults.
 

Tommy WATP

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Where did trust get Aiden Wilson ,Matt shiels ,

So are you saying they are ALL surrounding themselves with wrong people,give it up my friend get real,they're not on any pathway they're on a run to nowhere because we need to show something coming through to keep us the fans happy,but realistically not going to make the final step because we don't have trust,at what age do you feel you know if a youth is going to be good enough? Barjonas is 22 this year told not good enough 4 weeks ago gets 15 mins last week scores a goal and now the gaffer says we knew he had it' come on now don't play is for fools,Josh Mcpake at Dundee how much game time he get ?let's not forget it was us who put him there so who to blame ?and are we saying now he's not good enough for Dundee nevermind us?just seems like excuses all the time, let's look at the reports after Mcpake debut going to be new messi so what is he ready or not just seems like we build them up and then fold them is that the lads faults.
Clearly you’re close to one of the youth or a few of them so will be applying your own bias in this. McPake didn’t kick on at his loan as we wanted him to so naturally there will be a period of resettling back into the youths and building his confidence again before bringing him into the 1st team squad. If you had a 1st team player who bombed like McPake did on loan he would be nowhere near a squad either

You have players like Docherty with nearly 200 appearances who can’t get near out 1st team so unless these boys are exceptional then they’ll have to learn to wait.
 

BrooklynBlue

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Where did trust get Aiden Wilson ,Matt shiels ,

So are you saying they are ALL surrounding themselves with wrong people,give it up my friend get real,they're not on any pathway they're on a run to nowhere because we need to show something coming through to keep us the fans happy,but realistically not going to make the final step because we don't have trust,at what age do you feel you know if a youth is going to be good enough? Barjonas is 22 this year told not good enough 4 weeks ago gets 15 mins last week scores a goal and now the gaffer says we knew he had it' come on now don't play is for fools,Josh Mcpake at Dundee how much game time he get ?let's not forget it was us who put him there so who to blame ?and are we saying now he's not good enough for Dundee nevermind us?just seems like excuses all the time, let's look at the reports after Mcpake debut going to be new messi so what is he ready or not just seems like we build them up and then fold them is that the lads faults.
The unpalatable truth is that the majority of players simply aren't good enough. It must be extremely difficult for a player to hear that and I don't envy being in that position.

It's easier to find faults elsewhere than at home. The good players take responsibility.
 

Kentbear

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Clearly you’re close to one of the youth or a few of them so will be applying your own bias in this. McPake didn’t kick on at his loan as we wanted him to so naturally there will be a period of resettling back into the youths and building his confidence again before bringing him into the 1st team squad. If you had a 1st team player who bombed like McPake did on loan he would be nowhere near a squad either

You have players like Docherty with nearly 200 appearances who can’t get near out 1st team so unless these boys are exceptional then they’ll have to learn to wait.
Correct, we cant just chuck kids in if they are nowhere near ready, Billy Gilmour would have been one but through no fault of our own after nurturing him as a player and person for 7 years he decided to leave, as fans we all would like "our own" to be out there but as you say they would have to be exceptional.
 

CaliforniaBlue1872

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Clearly you’re close to one of the youth or a few of them so will be applying your own bias in this. McPake didn’t kick on at his loan as we wanted him to so naturally there will be a period of resettling back into the youths and building his confidence again before bringing him into the 1st team squad. If you had a 1st team player who bombed like McPake did on loan he would be nowhere near a squad either

You have players like Docherty with nearly 200 appearances who can’t get near out 1st team so unless these boys are exceptional then they’ll have to learn to wait.
A few weeks ago the claim was he is mates with Kai Kennedys uncle....it would appear that may not have been entirely accurate given the depth of info and opinion about so many others
 

Artful Dodger

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Did he sign for West ham or was it a fake story ?
Been wondering that.
There was a list of names in the Daily Mail today of players who had left us and his name was definitely not there.A few other academy lads who were let go as well as first team and squad players listed.But he was definitely not one of them.Thats not to say he’s not going right enough.
 

DadsArmy11

Active Member
Been wondering that.
There was a list of names in the Daily Mail today of players who had left us and his name was definitely not there.A few other academy lads who were let go as well as first team and squad players listed.But he was definitely not one of them.Thats not to say he’s not going right enough.

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