Neil Lennon and Vladimir Romanov fuelled refs abuse

Morton Goal said:
Dougie McDonald was a cheat against Hearts plenty of times. The irony being he got the call correct that got him sacked because Lennons such a poisonous bastard. Lennon was in their faces every game growling. Should have been done with abuse.
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It's worse than that. The only thing he done wrong was lie about how the call was made to protect his celtic supporting linesman who seen that the keeper touched the ball and that it wasn't a penalty but kept his flag down. Effectively he was willing to let celtic get a penalty he knew wasn't.

It was only when McDonald decided to go over and ask him directly (now why would he think he needed to do that with this particular official?????) did he admit that he seen the Hearts Dundee Utd keeper get a clear hand to the ball.

So he reached the right decision in the end, but told the linesman to say that he had called him over. His only mistake was covering for his bitter pal, and not giving celtic everthing they want, justified or not. And somehow, that PROVED the officials were against celtic. Only in fn Scotland man.

Irony being, his bitter linesman threw him under the bus and got him sacked. Rhat. With the help of Lennon twisting it all into his personal victimhood jackanory story, of course.
 
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This is a very timid admission of a fact that has been carefully censored out of public discourse until this moment.
It isn't a revelation of anything no one with their eyes open already knew, rather it is a demonstration of how 'sovietised' Scottish football journalism is and has been for decades.
There is reality, and then there is the parallel reality of what is written.

What should alarm people isn't that this has become de rigueur in the reporting of Scottish football, but that it is also how Scottish society in general now functions.
 
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Morton Goal said:
Wasnt that around the time that bheasty minded lawyer was kicking about the media all the time says they could sue or some shit then he randomly died?
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Don't care what anyone says, but there was definitely a little orchestrated cabal in operation around this time, and I think McBride was a big part of it's brainpower, PR and media presence. Lennon and others heavily involved I have no doubt.

It might still be in operation (Call it out? Findlay now in charge?), but his death seemed to be a severe setback to them.
 
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bilkobear said:
This is a very timid admission of a fact that has been carefully censored out of public discourse until this moment.
It isn't a revelation of anything no one with their eyes open knew, rather it is a demonstration of how 'sovietised' Scottish football journalism is and has been for decades.
There is reality, and then there is the parallel reality of what is written.

What should alarm people isn't that this has become de rigueur in the reporting of Scottish football, but that it is also how Scottish society in general now functions.
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So much so that last season the celtic FC chairman was allowed to threaten referees at their AGM with impunity and with predictable consequences on refereeing performances during the season.
 
The_Irrepressibles said:
It's worse than that. The only thing he done wrong was lie about how the call was made to protect his celtic supporting linesman who seen that the keeper touched the ball and that it wasn't a penalty but kept his flag down. Effectively he was willing to let celtic get a penalty he knew wasn't.

It was only when McDonald decided to go over and ask him directly (now why would he think he needed to do that with this particular official?????) did he admit that he seen the Hearts keeper get a clear hand to the ball.

So he reached the right decision in the end, but told the linesman to say that he had called him over. His only mistake was covering for his bitter pal, and not giving celtic everthing they want, justified or not. And somehow, that PROVED the officials were against celtic. Only in fn Scotland man.

Irony being, his bitter linesman threw him under the bus and got him sacked. Rhat. With the help of Lennon twisting it all into his personal victimhood jackanory story, of course.
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Dougie McDonald trying to save his rhat linesman, who stabbed him in the back, cost him his career. The narrative of " Lenny being lied to " was born and is still with us. That it was never a penalty has been conveniently forgotten.
 
He's right it'll never happen again. Celtic fan are now well aware that their actions back then have ensured that Referees will never give another 50/50 decision against them again as its simply not worth the hassle their families have to endure.
 
MrStruth said:
He's right it'll never happen again. Celtic fan are now well aware that their actions back then have ensured that Referees will never give another 50/50 decision against them again as its simply not worth the hassle their families have to endure.
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Edit - read you wrongly. Apologies
 
there we have it,not that we didn't know it anyway,but the enablers were to blame for the strike,but even more incredible is they came out the other side of it as the winners as results and actions since then have shown
 
The_Irrepressibles said:
Don't care what anyone says, but there was definitely a little orchestrated cabal in operation around this time, and I think McBride was a big part of it's brainpower, PR and media presence. Lennon and others heavily involved I have no doubt.

It might still be in operation (Call it out? Findlay now in charge?), but his death seemed to be a severe setback to them.
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Opus Dei is , and has been very prominent and active in many affairs in Scotland. Scottish Football and the Governing Associations , judiciary system , Scottish Executive , Police Scotland. MSM.. and Hollicom when needed , Nil by mouth ( even FARE in Europe ) its all there plain to see , problem is they're hardly going to call each other out. they've been at it for decades.
 
Wordy_Rappinghood said:
Neil Lennon was an absolute blight on our game. Horrible, classless and twisted.
Almost got the game stopped in our country because of his stupidity.

I remember in 2010 someone asked me to sum up the difference between Rangers and Celtic. All you had to do was look at the respective managers.
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Lennon's Da refused to go back to the piggery after the endless abuse his son took from his own fans. But Scotland's ingrained anti -Irish racism was the problem, according to the media.

Collum and his family receiving death threats in 2010 from the same fans said it all.
 
muttley said:
Lennon repeatedly running onto pitches after games and jabbing his finger in ref's faces was sickening. He should have been thrown out of Scottish football. The Scottish media, however, lapped it up.
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“He’s passionate “ was the line used on many occasions, compare that to the abuse Morelos gets
 
bluetonic said:
“He’s passionate “ was the line used on many occasions, compare that to the abuse Morelos gets
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Yep. I remember that excuse being regularly trotted out in the media. Any other Manager would have seen 3 year touchline bans for inciting riots at football grounds. Lennon received a 45 minute ban, which he saw out in the stand at Ibrox. It was utterly sickening.
 
A FORMER top Scottish referee has recalled how Neil Lennon and Vladimir Romanov were two of the key figures that forced referees to strike.

Lennon was manager of Celtic and Romanov was the owner of Hearts at the time when Scotland's whistlers went on strike in 2010.

Foreign refs were parachuted in as a result to allow matches to continue as the Scottish men in the middle feared for their safety.

Steve Conroy was one of the country's top officials at the time and claims it was more than just the pressure of the job that took its toll on he and his colleagues.

He said there was a genuine worry among referees that the personal insults and threats would boil over into the physical.

Speaking on the Get Involved Referee podcast, Conroy said: "We were genuinely scared for our safety back then. We were worried that someone was going to get hurt – either at work or at home – because it was constant.

"It wasn’t just criticism ‘Oh Conroy got it wrong again’, it was personal insults and personal threats.

"And you’ll never convince me other than it was totally orchestrated by others to deflect from adverse events that were going on elsewhere.

"People were genuinely worried about going to games. It was a tough time and it was horrible.

"It wasn’t solely, but it was mainly a couple of teams and a couple of individuals that it made it very difficult and very unpleasant to do your work at that time."

Conroy expanded on who those individuals were and how fearful he and his colleagues were that they would be putting themselves or their families in danger.

That was when Lennon and Romanov's names came up.

He said: “There was genuine heartfelt fear that something was going to happen either to us or to someone in the family – and certain officials were not condemning it.

"Neil Lennon was not a friend of referees back then and mad Vlad wasn’t helping things either.

"It all turned and everything that they did wrong was blamed on us and we were deliberately targeted.”
 
The_Irrepressibles said:
It's worse than that. The only thing he done wrong was lie about how the call was made to protect his celtic supporting linesman who seen that the keeper touched the ball and that it wasn't a penalty but kept his flag down. Effectively he was willing to let celtic get a penalty he knew wasn't.

It was only when McDonald decided to go over and ask him directly (now why would he think he needed to do that with this particular official?????) did he admit that he seen the Hearts keeper get a clear hand to the ball.

So he reached the right decision in the end, but told the linesman to say that he had called him over. His only mistake was covering for his bitter pal, and not giving celtic everthing they want, justified or not. And somehow, that PROVED the officials were against celtic. Only in fn Scotland man.

Irony being, his bitter linesman threw him under the bus and got him sacked. Rhat. With the help of Lennon twisting it all into his personal victimhood jackanory story, of course.
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Was the Dougie Dougie incident not against Scumdee United?
 
I wonder what he thinks about referees performances since then and if he thinks the game is still suffering the consequences from that time having to take strike action on self and family safety issues due to, let's cut to the chase Celtic fans and their clubs disgusting behaviour?
 
muttley said:
Yep. I remember that excuse being regularly trotted out in the media. Any other Manager would have seen 3 year touchline bans for inciting riots at football grounds. Lennon received a 45 minute ban, which he saw out in the stand at Ibrox. It was utterly sickening.
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Lemon and Wibble the worst things to happen to Scottish football this country has gone to the dogs since then
 
That is a massive admission from Conroy. It isn't a brave one as he should have had the courage at the time, but to effectively call out one of his favourites shows how bad that intimidation was.

I don't ever imagine the arrogance of Kenny Clark or Willie Young naming and shaming anyone and saying they felt intimidated.
 
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