New Manager Discussion Thread

GBY74 said:
I think you're listening to too many from the dark side. We were absolutely relentless that season and we handled the pressures far better than they did. Gerrard put us miles in front of them but we failed to push on.
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Appreciate this view also, we were what 7 points clear when he left...then that group of players imploded (as per usual) under pressure if he stayed we might have pushed on, we might not have. But the group of players crumbled in any season with real pressure and a normal outlook.
 
andy17x said:
We might well have won it...however as I've said their Impolosion and the Covid madness were MAJOR factors that contributed
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I hear you.

But we won that title due to 3 years of hard-work.

Irrelevant of them, Covid or whatever else. We won that title due to the work put in by Gerrard, the coaching set-up and the players.

Nothing else contributed, bar that.

In my opinion.
 
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SG_8 said:
I hear you.

But we won that title due to 3 years of hard-work.

Irrelevant of them, Covid or whatever else. We won that title due to the work put in by Gerrard, the coaching set-up and the players.

Nothing else contributed, bar that.

In my opinion.

And “their implosion” is best described in post #1237.
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Nope, the post just distorts stats to tell a story. By the end of January they had only lost twice, but had dropped 23 points. That would be manager sacking time for us.
 
SG_8 said:
It just shows how different we all are in our thoughts.

Personally, I think only Gerrard or Jose could unite the fans like no other.

I think fans would gather at Ibrox, should Gerrard or Jose be appointed as gaffer. Genuinely.

I don’t think fans would gather at Ibrox for any other realistic managerial appointment. Literally, no other person would untie the fans like they would.

Picture it, yourself. It’s just a fact.

That’s the opposite of “deflating”, for me.
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It’s not really a fact though, it’s your opinion, which is fine obviously. I think it’s wrong though, also seems like you want a big name more than anything, if it’s between Gerrard and a manager who used to be the best of the best, but no longer wins things and was recently outwitted by Barry Ferguson. I think both of those appointments would make me apprehensive about where we’re headed and the mindset of the new owners. I want Rangers to be commercially attractive because we’re successful, not because we’ve managed to put famous faces in the dugout. Gerrard would be by no means the worst appointment, but it doesn’t really fit the new era and fresh approach vibe I would like.
 
Percy said:
It’s not really a fact though, it’s just your opinion, which is fine obviously. I think it’s wrong though, also seems like you want a big name more than anything, if it’s between Gerrard and a manager who used to be the best of the best, but no longer wins things and was recently outwitted by Barry Ferguson. I think both of those appointments would make me apprehensive about where we’re headed and the mindset of the new owners. I want Rangers to be commercially attractive because we’re successful, not because we’ve managed to put famous faces in the dugout.
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So Jose or Gerrard wouldn’t attract a crowd at Ibrox?

Gerrard did previously. When he hadn’t even been a manager. He’s since won us 55. I believe fans would do the same again and gather to welcome him back. In-fact, I know they would.

Jose is a bigger name. Anyone implying fans wouldn’t gather to welcome him is simply wrong.

Fans gathering at Ibrox to welcome Gerrard or Jose is fans uniting. Uniting behind the manager/appointment. No other realistic candidate gets that treatment.

That’s what I stated was a fact. And it is. It’s my opinion, yes. But it’s also a fact.
 
Percy said:
It’s not really a fact though, it’s just your opinion, which is fine obviously. I think it’s wrong though, also seems like you want a big name more than anything, if it’s between Gerrard and a manager who used to be the best of the best, but no longer wins things and was recently outwitted by Barry Ferguson. I think both of those appointments would make me apprehensive about where we’re headed and the mindset of the new owners. I want Rangers to be commercially attractive because we’re successful, not because we’ve managed to put famous faces in the dugout. Gerrard would be by no means the worst appointment, but it doesn’t really fit the new era and fresh approach vibe I would like.
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It's all differing opinions who do you think would be a good choice that would get us successful and give the fresh approach vibe you'd be looking for?
 
SG_8 said:
So Jose or Gerrard wouldn’t attract a crowd at Ibrox?

Gerrard did previously. When he hadn’t even been a manager. He’s since won us 55. I believe fans would do the same again and gather to welcome him back. In-fact, I know they would.

Jose is a bigger name. Anyone implying fans wouldn’t gather to welcome him is simply wrong.

That’s what I stated was a fact. And it is. It’s my opinion, yes. But it’s also a fact.
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I think you need to grab your dictionary, go to the F’s and look for the word fact. It’s not what you think it is. Gerrard as a recently retired Premier League superstar and untested manager was exciting, much more exciting than Gerrard the 10 years retired manager that’s been cut from his two most recent jobs. Jose is a bigger name, but like I said that seems to be what you’re really interested in.

Jose hasn’t won a trophy for quite some time, he creates conflict, gives wacky sound bites, takes his severance package and moves on to the next club. Jose of a few years back would have me excited and optimistic because that Jose was a force. I don’t understand why you’re more excited about getting a welcoming party into Ibrox for a knees up than a fresh approach that can take us to long term and sustained success. But like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion, it’s all cool.
 
SG_8 said:
I gave no timeline, my friend. I don’t think I did, anyway. Maybe, I did. Don’t recall, personally.

Welcome, back.

You love the Gerrard chat, secretly. I know you do :cool:
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You said you were out mate but here you are continually pushing your theory that Gerrard is our saviour.

What you going to do when Russell Martin rocks up?
 
SG_8 said:
I think Ferguson would have a better chance of staying under Jose.

But I would love Gerrard, Ferguson and McGregor in the same dugout. That’s the dream.

I do disagree with the folk though who say Ferguson wouldn’t be a number 2 now.

I think if any Rangers manager ever asks Ferguson to help out as a coach or number 2 or whatever - he’d be absolutely all over it.
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Not at all bothered by the fact that he keeps losing?
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
You said you were out mate but here you are continually pushing your theory that Gerrard is our saviour.

What you going to do when Russell Martin rocks up?
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You, see. I just can’t stay away.

Genuinely, I had no idea I said I was away indefinitely.

A poster above said he’s going out of his mind. He said he’s been seeing Gerrard threads on here for 4 years solid.

It’s madness.

He’s still got us chatting about his time here. That’s an impact.

If Russell Martin, or whoever else rocks up, I’ll do what I always do - 100% back them and go every week.

I adapt so easily. I have backed every manager we’ve ever had. I always have down. And always will.

Can’t keep me away, my friend.

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Percy said:
I think you need to grab your dictionary, go to the F’s and look for the word fact. It’s not what you think it is. Gerrard as a recently retired Premier League superstar and untested manager was exciting, much more exciting than Gerrard the 10 years retired manager that’s been cut from his two most recent jobs. Jose is a bigger name, but like I said that seems to be what you’re really interested in.

Jose hasn’t won a trophy for quite some time, he creates conflict, gives wacky sound bites, takes his severance package and moves on to the next club. Jose of a few years back would have me excited and optimistic because that Jose was a force. I don’t understand why you’re more excited about getting a welcoming party into Ibrox for a knees up than a fresh approach that can take us to long term and sustained success. But like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion, it’s all cool.
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Gerrard or Jose would attract a crowd at Ibrox. Fact.

Fans gathering at Ibrox is fans uniting behind a manager. Fact.

Other (realistic) managers would not get the same gathering of fans at Ibrox. Fact.

I don’t need a dictionary. The above is true. Whether we want it to be, or not.

I’m not talking about what they’ve achieved. I’m not talking about how well/not well they would do for us.

I’m simply saying either appointment would have fans gather to welcome them. This is a fact, my friend. It’s also fans uniting. That’s literally all I have stated as a fact. Nothing else.
 
SG_8 said:
You, see. I just can’t stay away.

Genuinely, I had no idea I said I was away indefinitely.

A poster above said he’s going out of his mind. He said he’s been seeing Gerrard threads on here for 4 years solid.

It’s madness.

He’s still got us chatting about his time here. That’s an impact.

If Russell Martin, or whoever else rocks up Ill do what I always do - 100% back then and go every week.

I adapt so easily. I have backed every manager we’ve ever had. I always have down. And always will.

Can’t keep me away my friend.

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We are still chatting about Gerrard because folks like you can't move on from the past.

There is an unhealthy obsession with wanting to bring ex players and managers back to the club even when their records after leaving is horrendous.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
We are still chatting about Gerrard because folks like you can't move on from the past.

There is an unhealthy obsession with wanting to bring ex players and managers back to the club even when their records after leaving is horrendous.
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Tbf, we’re still talking about Gerrard because he’s linked with the job and will have been in the new ownership discussions.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
We are still chatting about Gerrard because folks like you can't move on from the past.

There is an unhealthy obsession with wanting to bring ex players and managers back to the club even when their records after leaving is horrendous.
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Fair enough, bro.

I do agree in general with this bold part.

I think Gerrard is the kind of fit that would be great at us. And almost a failure (I hate using that word and Gerrard together) anywhere else.

I just think we “suit” each other.

But I do agree with your point, here.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
Where is he linked outside of bookies odds and wishful thinking from posters on here?
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All over all the media. McCoist and a host of ex-players, like Arifeld, Hutton and Halliday.

But again, I see your point. All irrelevant links.

But you only need to google it (I’ve never done this :))) to see links all over the place.

But again. All from folk who know nada.
 
SG_8 said:
All over all the media. McCoist and a host of ex-players, like Arifeld and Halliday.

But again, I see your point. All irrelevant links.

But you only need to google it (I’ve never done this :))) to see links all over the place.

But again. All from folk who know nada.
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Halliday said he would be interested, hardly stellar stuff. Jose said he would be interested as well. I'm sure Russell Martin, Shaun Dyche and others are interested it doesn't mean they will be our next boss.

Anyway, I will leave you to continue with your Gerrard propaganda.
 
I'll readily admit, I've absolutely not got a clue who's going to be the new manager, but whoever it is will get my support. I want to hear someone coming in, who tells us straight, that we have to move on from just dealing in the transfer market. Any quality, ready made players and I'll use Richard Gough and Terry Buthcer here as an example, would be way out of our reach these days. I say them 2 especially as unless we get that defence vastly improved, it will be more of the same.

After that, a complete overhaul of our scouting system. A lot of hard work lies ahead, which can't be fixed overnight. If mbappe can't hit the ground running with RM, what chance have we got?
 
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Dashboard Jesus said:
Halliday said he would be interested, hardly stellar stuff. Jose said he would be interested as well. I'm sure Russell Martin, Shaun Dyche and others are interested it doesn't mean they will be our next boss.

Anyway, I will leave you to continue with your Gerrard propaganda.
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No.

But Halliday etc aren’t being asked about Dyche. It’s always Gerrard (And Jose).

All of the chat and articles are more often than not about Gerrard.

I’ve read a few Rangers ones. I think Rangers News or Reveiw and many more. Always about Gerrard returning. Never Dyche etc.

But yes, it’s all irrelevant because these folk don’t know anything. It’s all just speculation.

I’m just making the point that the other poster was correct in saying, it’s being discussed more than on just here.

Thank-you for leaving me to it. Appreciated.
 
I could live with Gerrard back. We need charismatic leader with a strong personality at the helm who won't be messed about by the tinpot Scottish media and he fits that brief. The important bit would be having a strong backroom team behind him. His backroom team first time around were all EPL level operators.
 
SG_8 said:
No.

But Halliday etc aren’t being asked about Dyche. It’s always Gerrard (And Jose).

All of the chat and articles are more often than not about Gerrard.

I’ve read a few Rangers ones. I think Rangers News or Reveiw and many more. Always about Gerrard returning. Never Dyche etc.

But yes, it’s all irrelevant because these folk don’t know anything. It’s all just speculation.

I’m just making the point that the other poster was correct in saying, it’s being discussed more than on just here.

Thank-you for leaving me to it. Appreciated.
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So just as I thought it's all speculation. Nothing concrete that would suggest Gerrard is the preferred next manager.

We got there in the end.
 
Dashboard Jesus said:
So just as I thought it's all speculation. Nothing concrete that would suggest Gerrard is the preferred next manager.

We got there in the end.
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Yes, mate.

You asked the poster where it was being discussed outside of FF.

He said, loads of places - in almost every discussion.

All the discussions I’ve seen in the media and with ex-players etc have been exactly that - about Gerrard.

That’s all that was said.

And I repeatedly said in every single post - all pointless links from folk who don’t know.

We were simply replying to your question. Absolutely nobody implied the links were credible.

Further up, you ridiculed me for saying I’d stay away and re-appearing. You’ve just said you’d leave me to it. And you haven’t. You lasted much less time than me, too. Superb.

We both have that in common. We love Gerrard threads.

Maybe we can become friends.
 
KDot said:
What’s the Gerrard chat this week then?
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It's stemmed from him going from 9/2 into 1/3 on the next manager odds,after that a lot of papers are printing he's favourite although with no the greatest of strong links and it's all opinion based.
 
SG_8 said:
Well, yes.

But there wouldn’t be. Because he isn’t the best fit.

If I came on here everyday and countless posters were calling for the same manager and discussing the same manager, it would probably be for a decent reason. There’s new Gerrard threads every single week.

I have no idea, though. Because it’s not happened. I’m just speculating.

Put it this way, try and picture the hype if he were appointed. Like, imagine it. Folk would be travelling to Ibrox. Again. Picture the hype of any offer realistic appointment (Jose, aside. And I’d take him all day long, too).

There is no comparison, at all.

So in short, yes. I think it’s an indicator that he’s a good fit (albeit, a small indicator. But an indicator all the same).
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Then in 3 years time we win a trophy we might realise it probably wasnt worth it.
 
insanicdrunk said:
Then in 3 years time we win a trophy we might realise it probably wasnt worth it.
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Bro. I can’t keep doing this.

Folk keep saying I’m non-stop on here.

Can you blame me? People keep tagging me and referencing the very same things that have been discussed at lengths on here already. And then get annoyed when I keep replying with the same answers.

Any answers will be in the posts above.
 
SDF said:
'They imploded' really annoys me.

They had lost twice until the end of January. Both times to us. No one else beat them until St Mirren did on 30th January.

By that point we had dropped just six points all season and were 23 points in front having played two more. By the end of the season we had dropped twelve points all in. At no point did we take our foot off the gas or give them a sniff of a chance.

They were never catching us. Supposed implosion or not.
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Agreed, they imploded all right, but we helped them with it, it had no bearing on the league.

Also, the no crowds that some mention did have a bearing imo, but it was how it affected the refs, they actually done their jobs correctly on the most part.
 
They imploded because we were relentless that year to the point that the more points they dropped the more desperate they became.

I can't believe people are on here saying the reason we won 55 was because they imploded by themselves. Honest to God.
 
Percy said:
I think you need to grab your dictionary, go to the F’s and look for the word fact. It’s not what you think it is. Gerrard as a recently retired Premier League superstar and untested manager was exciting, much more exciting than Gerrard the 10 years retired manager that’s been cut from his two most recent jobs. Jose is a bigger name, but like I said that seems to be what you’re really interested in.

Jose hasn’t won a trophy for quite some time, he creates conflict, gives wacky sound bites, takes his severance package and moves on to the next club. Jose of a few years back would have me excited and optimistic because that Jose was a force. I don’t understand why you’re more excited about getting a welcoming party into Ibrox for a knees up than a fresh approach that can take us to long term and sustained success. But like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion, it’s all cool.
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He won Roma a European trophy 3 season ago, got them to another European final the season after but yeah he’s done nothing
 
CrocodileDundee said:
He won Roma a European trophy 3 season ago, got them to another European final the season after but yeah he’s done nothing
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It was the conference league, the competition below the one we normally compete in, it 3 years ago which ties with what I said. His previous one before that was the 2016-17 season after spending a fortune at United. So one trophy in eight years. Gio also got to a European final, did it with a far lesser budget, that didn’t help him when his head was on the chopping block.

I just think if Jose was doing well he wouldn’t be at Fenerbache to begin with and he wouldn’t be getting eliminated for the Europa League by Barry. He used to be the best in the business, but I don’t want people getting the gig on past glories or their level of fame. Thats not for me.
 
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Jose deserves credit for the success he’s had with different clubs,What has been his average spend getting the success at these clubs.
 
CrocodileDundee said:
He won Roma a European trophy 3 season ago, got them to another European final the season after but yeah he’s done nothing
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He's on £9m a year. Essentially three times what Rodgers is on.

We should not be paying any manager £9m a year to manage in Scotland. Especially one who had the piss taken out of him by an interim manager who has Alloa, Kelty Hearts and Clyde as their CV.
 
SG_8 said:
So Jose or Gerrard wouldn’t attract a crowd at Ibrox?

Gerrard did previously. When he hadn’t even been a manager. He’s since won us 55. I believe fans would do the same again and gather to welcome him back. In-fact, I know they would.

Jose is a bigger name. Anyone implying fans wouldn’t gather to welcome him is simply wrong.

Fans gathering at Ibrox to welcome Gerrard or Jose is fans uniting. Uniting behind the manager/appointment. No other realistic candidate gets that treatment.

That’s what I stated was a fact. And it is. It’s my opinion, yes. But it’s also a fact.
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Agree
Especially if during holiday period for schools
If Jose becomes manager I reckon 15 thousand would turn up to welcome him and I'm not crazy l
 
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