Nick walsh - does he need contact lenses?

DelPiero

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Really bad decision on the penalty call for the tackle on Roofe, other than that he was fine.

Anyone calling a referee a cheat after we’ve won the game 4-0 is a lunatic.
 

Harrogate Bluenose

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Oh mate, if that's your response to my post then I give up. You're not really interested in anything else other than extracting an acknowledgement, based on one non-decision, that a referee with whom we have a near-perfect record is a cheat. If you want to scrutinize individual data then it looks like the decision of a cheat. If you want to look at the wider picture - which, as an intelligent and lively poster, you're sure to do - then no, he's not. I'm sure you're aware of the difference.

lets just go you way for a minute, Tell me how many points we have dropped with nick in charge compared to celtic games hes has officiated. You will have a red face if you think its close.
 

Spart7

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I thought the free kick he gave Aberdeen right in half time was a joke too. Jack clearly won the ball and it was never a foul.
It was a foul. Jack won the ball cleanly but one of our defenders then cleaned them both out and missed the ball at the same time.
 

The Golden God

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Another decision that will be completely forgotten about in the future.

I have absolutely no idea what he saw for that not to be a penalty.
 

Arminius

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Don’t know why I’m doing this but I’m going to be generous to the wee pygmy prick :D

The camera angle from the Main Stand shows it’s a stonewaller.

However, there was another angle we saw where the actual contact with Roofe’s leg was obscured. If that’s the angle Walsh got, he could maybe, just maybe, be excused for not spotting it.

What’s the linesman’s excuse? He got the side view, which couldn’t be clearer.
 

Harrogate Bluenose

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Really bad decision on the penalty call for the tackle on Roofe, other than that he was fine.

Anyone calling a referee a cheat after we’ve won the game 4-0 is a lunatic.

this is exactly the time to call it out before the cheating costs us

unless you think this is not cheating and it was not at a decisive point in the game


no point in shouting about it after points dropped. Do it now
 

Harrogate Bluenose

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Don’t know why I’m doing this but I’m going to be generous to the wee pygmy prick :D

The camera angle from the Main Stand shows it’s a stonewaller.

However, there was another angle we saw where the actual contact with Roofe’s leg was obscured. If that’s the angle Walsh got, he could maybe, just maybe, be excused for not spotting it.

What’s the linesman’s excuse? He got the side view, which couldn’t be clearer.

ref was looking right at it?
 

ClockworkOrange

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lets just go you way for a minute, Tell me how many points we have dropped with nick in charge compared to celtic games hes has officiated. You will have a red face if you think its close.

What? I've no idea what that means.

His record refereeing Celtic - 14 games, 12 wins, 2 draws, 0 losses.

His record refereeing Rangers - 18 games, 14 games, 3 draws, 1 loss.

Is that close enough? Because a win record of 77% against 85% cannot in any way shape or form not be considered close, especially when the numbers are almost identical if you discount our worst (and entirely justified) defeat against Hamilton at Ibrox.
 

Harrogate Bluenose

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look anyone in doubt look at the 4th minute of the video below where nick walsh OVER RULES his linesman


He is a cheat like robertson and clancy.
 

Harrogate Bluenose

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What? I've no idea what that means.

His record refereeing Celtic - 14 games, 12 wins, 2 draws, 0 losses.

His record refereeing Rangers - 18 games, 14 games, 3 draws, 1 loss.

Is that close enough? Because a win record of 77% against 85% cannot in any way shape or form not be considered close, especially when the numbers are almost identical if you discount our worst (and entirely justified) defeat against Hamilton at Ibrox.

not 2 draws, under our nick celtic have dropped 2 points

have a look at the ross county video where he even over rules his linesman to knock off a ross county goal against them. Despite being 5 yards onside,

Again if you think that was not cheating today at that decisive moment that would have made it 2-0 if we converted or kept Aberdeen in the game. Then we agree to disagree. 100% a wee cheat in my view.
 

ClockworkOrange

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not 2 draws, under our nick celtic have dropped 2 points

have a look at the ross county video where he even over rules his linesman to knock off a ross county goal against them. Despite being 5 yards onside,

Again if you think that was not cheating today at that decisive moment that would have made it 2-0 if we converted or kept Aberdeen in the game. Then we agree to disagree. 100% a wee cheat in my view.

Your ultimate problem (notwithstanding the fact that Celtic's record is better because they were, for the past three seasons, a better team) is in the isolation of your idea. It's the equivalent of interpreting Craig Thomson's non-award of a penalty to Celtic at Ibrox in 2009 as evidence that he favours us, ignoring evidence outside of that which clearly indicates the contrary. Or Madden giving Halliday a yellow instead of a red for attempted murder on Roberts. Or...etc, etc.

Let's hope that "wee cheat" keeps it up in the next game he refs us. An 83% percent win rate with no red cards suits me fine, and, despite the theatrics and fixation, you as well, I'm sure. Enjoy your Sunday. Walsh refereed us to another victory today, so I know I will.
 

Tailwind

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I agree he seemed to have a very good view it so

I agree he had a very good view of it so I don't know why it wasn't given. If it was cheating why give us the one in the second half, hardly anybody was claiming for it so why give it.
Refs are a strange breed. I remember years ago an ex grade one ref and season ticket holder at Ibrox used to meet a group of us in the pub after games. The lot of us would be slating the ref for this or that but the ex ref chap would always make an excuse for him and I'm talking about some howling decisions.
Friends with ontheline? ;) :))
 

Tailwind

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@ClockworkOrange

lets agree to disagree, I say cheat you say...

a. Got the ball
b. Ref never saw
c. Roofe dived

What makes you think hes not a cheat? I have uploaded a video to help you decide.

Mental people are defending this. As stonewall a pen as you will see all season.

We’ve been denied 3 clear pens. Another for Roofe, and one for Itten. We’ve been given zero pens not 100% merited. Yet the agenda is we are benefitting from peenaltu calls.

Add in the blatant handball Ajer got away with yesterday.
 

Tailwind

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Sorry HB . We have been getting cheated constantly for at least the last two years. How many penalties have not been awarded to us so far this season? My opinion is still that they ARE all cheats.
At least 3 or 4. Off the top of my head.

How many stonewallers not given against them?
Ajer yesterday for a start. I’m not convinced Celtic’s yesterday was a pen neither. Need to see it again.
 

Tailwind

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Sorry HB . We have been getting cheated constantly for at least the last two years. How many penalties have not been awarded to us so far this season? My opinion is still that they ARE all cheats.
At least 3 or 4. Off the top of my head.

How many stonewallers not given against them?
Ajer yesterday for a start. I’m not convinced Celtic’s yesterday was a pen neither. Need to see it again.
Of course not, it just means he's not doing it particularly well.
You are conflating 2 things that aren’t directly related. Cheating would be about denying stone wall pens, giving soft pens against, ignoring offsides, booking our players for %^*& all whilst allowing theirs away with murder. Ignoring fouls on our players. Inventing fouls by our players. Booking Itten for being fouled. None of these things guarantee a loss and therefore a win cannot be used as evidence of a lack of cheating. Albeit costing us points in one game can be catastrophic.

We can still win in spite of cheating. Also we can draw through a ref’s cheating/incompetence. See Hibs earlier this season. Just as damaging.
 

govantrueblue

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Your ultimate problem (notwithstanding the fact that Celtic's record is better because they were, for the past three seasons, a better team) is in the isolation of your idea. It's the equivalent of interpreting Craig Thomson's non-award of a penalty to Celtic at Ibrox in 2009 as evidence that he favours us, ignoring evidence outside of that which clearly indicates the contrary. Or Madden giving Halliday a yellow instead of a red for attempted murder on Roberts. Or...etc, etc.

Let's hope that "wee cheat" keeps it up in the next game he refs us. An 83% percent win rate with no red cards suits me fine, and, despite the theatrics and fixation, you as well, I'm sure. Enjoy your Sunday. Walsh refereed us to another victory today, so I know I will.
I was backing you until the attempted murder nonsense.
 

ClockworkOrange

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You are conflating 2 things that aren’t directly related. Cheating would be about denying stone wall pens, giving soft pens against, ignoring offsides, booking our players for %^*& all whilst allowing theirs away with murder. Ignoring fouls on our players. Inventing fouls by our players. Booking Itten for being fouled. None of these things guarantee a loss and therefore a win cannot be used as evidence of a lack of cheating. Albeit costing us points in one game can be catastrophic.

We can still win in spite of cheating. Also we can draw through a ref’s cheating/incompetence. See Hibs earlier this season. Just as damaging.

How can a near-perfect record under a referee and that referee's performance in these games not be considered "directly related"?

You are, for what it's worth, echoing my sentiments from earlier on in the thread.
showed his colours m8. I have a tendency to flush them out

If in doubt, throw the accusation of Timpostery about. The FF mark of an ignorant, beaten, desperate man. Which is a shame, because I've great respect for how doggedly and persistently you've presented your case with enthusiasm this evening, and the obvious love you have for this great club. A pity, mate. You had done so well.
 

Harrogate Bluenose

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How can a near-perfect record under a referee and that referee's performance in these games not be considered "directly related"?

You are, for what it's worth, echoing my sentiments from earlier on in the thread.


If in doubt, throw the accusation of Timpostery about. The FF mark of an ignorant, beaten, desperate man. Which is a shame, because I've great respect for how doggedly and persistently you've presented your case with enthusiasm this evening, and the obvious love you have for this great club. A pity, mate. You had done so well.

i stopped debating when you used claims of nick walsh stats being comparison in regards to celtic,

Did you watch him over rule his liesman to chalk off a goal against celtic? Not sure which one was the most desperate, that one or his cheating today.
 

ClockworkOrange

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i stopped debating when you used claims of nick walsh stats being comparison in regards to celtic,

Did you watch him over rule his liesman to chalk off a goal against celtic? Not sure which one was the most desperate, that one or his cheating today.

Mate, I've no idea what this means. I'm sorry, but I can't make you out. It's utter gibberish.
 

Harrogate Bluenose

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Mate, I've no idea what this means. I'm sorry, but I can't make you out. It's utter gibberish.

you said his stats against us were comparable with his stats as a referee with celtic

i then asked you to look at his performance where he over ruled his linesman to chalk off a goal against celtic. Goalscorer was onside according to linesman. In fact he was 5 yards onside.
 

ClockworkOrange

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you said his stats against us were comparable with his stats as a referee with celtic

And they are. You just never bothered to answer to my reply and elected instead to embarrass yourself with some humiliating and desperate Timpostery accusation. Which, like a true coward, wasn't even directed at me :D
 

ClockworkOrange

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they are not!

celtic have dropped 2 points under him. We are far higher

You don't think the difference is negligible when you consider that the results take in seasons when Celtic were competing without us, that they have won the league in the three seasons and for two of them were comfortably better, the game that makes the difference to the numbers was the worst result that Gerrard has had as Rangers manager and that if we win the next game he referees us under then it's almost the exact same?

If so: wow.
 
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