Ted Rangers
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I suppose it depends on your definition of cutback. Today wasn't a cutback.As I say you can’t be offside from a cutback. If he was offside earlier in the move and not given then tough.
I suppose it depends on your definition of cutback. Today wasn't a cutback.As I say you can’t be offside from a cutback. If he was offside earlier in the move and not given then tough.
Maybe just a tad of hyperbole there mate.He was honking today and can’t remember one decision he gave in our favour, usual bog standard refereeing in our league petrified to be scrutinised on sportcene
I’ll agree to disagree. In fifty odd years of watching and playing the game I’ve gone with the rule the ball must move forward. A player cannot be offside from a cut back. And never once have I been challenged on that.
The goalie one he was speaking to the Lino about it, as far as I could see.Keeper running about outside the box with the ball in his hand
The push on matondo in the box followed by a pass back
Bizarre refereeing
I really hope this is true.Collum retired I'm sure
It's not about the cutback, it's about the player's position. It's really not that hard to figure out.As I say you can’t be offside from a cutback. If he was offside earlier in the move and not given then tough.
Totally agree. Incidentally he isn’t the worst not by a long shot. I’m trying to grasp the threads justification? We won comprehensively with as already stated, no controversial incidents…Maybe just a tad of hyperbole there mate.
There wasn't one game changing incident he gave against us...possibly the occasional foul at most.
I've witnessed much much worse refereeing perfomances over the years and as I said earlier, Tuesdays refereeing performance was one of the worst I've seen in a long time.
There are certainly times when we can heavily criticise refereeing performances in our games but today wasn't one of them!
It didn’t influence the result, but how do they get 2 minutes of injury time at the end of the first half? There was a St J player down for 90 seconds, he then got substituted (30 seconds?), a 2 minutes water break, another St J player down, Scott Wright down and a bit of time wasting. There should easily have been 5+ minute of injury time. Sure it was hot and the players might have been happy to go in at HT. But it shouldn’t be for the officials to decide just to shorten a game. Instead they should be adding the time and applying the rules.
Each to their own opinion. Other than Clancy, I believe no referee has an agenda against us. They just absolutely fvcking rotten the lot of them.
As Drum said above, we’ve managed some right crackpots in Europe too. Let’s hope that’s not the case come Tuesday.
This is because you can't be offside if you're behind the ball - you have to be in front of the ball (and not in your own half) to be offside.As I say you can’t be offside from a cutback. If he was offside earlier in the move and not given then tough.
I know mate he’s onside.It's not about the cutback, it's about the player's position. It's really not that hard to figure out.
And to be even fairer to him, it’s 4-0 in that heat, what mores going to happen in that heat?To be fair to him, he can't possibly have seen that - that was on the linesman
However, a couple of injuries, a sub, and a water break and only plays 2 minutes... baffling
Yeah he’s really not. If he’s in front of the ball he’s not onside when it’s cut backI know mate he’s onside.
Each to their own opinion. Other than Clancy, I believe no referee has an agenda against us. They just absolutely fvcking rotten the lot of them.
As Drum said above, we’ve managed some right crackpots in Europe too. Let’s hope that’s not the case come Tuesday.
if the receiving player is behind the ball he cant be offside Colak was ahead of the ball and came back from an offside position it was offside. Will take that though and let the scum go into meltdown should be a funny week aheadI’ll agree to disagree. In fifty odd years of watching and playing the game I’ve gone with the rule the ball must move forward. A player cannot be offside from a cut back. And never once have I been challenged on that.
add Beaton he takes some beatingI think this a pretty much fair statement. Clancy is the only one ballsy enough to be such an obvious rattler. Gonna miss Brother Bobby though, I reckon.
I don’t think people understand that refs have ambitions to be the best in the country. I don’t think any go out each weekend to try and make Celtic win and Rangers lose. When Celtic fans went on about for decades they were a laughing stock.These constant accusations about every ref being a cheat are embarrassing.
The keeper didn’t have the ball outside the box and the Colak one was never a penalty.Could have been a penalty on Colak
The second yellow for Montgomery
Keeper with the ball outside his box
Getting in the way of play for them, very poor positioning
St. Johnstone player was protecting the ball on the deck and we should have got the foul
Not the worst today but not the greatest either.
Collum retired I'm sure
He also bodychecked a St J attacker then continued play with us in possessionDidn't look outside the box on the replay on RangersTV.
And he gave us the Colak offside goal - so not all bad.
Ofcourse they do, they also know how much influence Celtic have at the sfa and how the media reports on football.I don’t think people understand that refs have ambitions to be the best in the country. I don’t think any go out each weekend to try and make Celtic win and Rangers lose. When Celtic fans went on about for decades they were a laughing stock.
They put up with dogs abuse doing the youths, then the amateurs, then the juniors and then the lower leagues. Only to reach the premier league and rather than try and kick on and try get into the UEFA or FIFA ref pools they instead start twirling their mustaches and say, finally I can %^*& over Rangers.I don’t think people understand that refs have ambitions to be the best in the country. I don’t think any go out each weekend to try and make Celtic win and Rangers lose. When Celtic fans went on about for decades they were a laughing stock.
Ironically, the first result on Google...Not merely a very poor referee but a base cheat.
Do you honestly think Walsh sat ahead of yesterday's game thinking to himself how he was going to try help St Johnstone.Ofcourse they do, they also know how much influence Celtic have at the sfa and how the media reports on football.
I dont watch sportscene for example but im sure they will focus on the offside goal we got this week but didnt bother to report or debate a similar call at Livi.
There is thread running alongside this one on John Beaton cheating, and other refs too, not one of you guys have made similar comments on there or been on to explain how bias would not be tolerated in any sport.
I also dont believe this obsession with Celtic fans helps us much mate, you say they went on about refs cheating them well no one on their side is moaning now. Its been about 10 years since they could find anything to complain about even Lennon struggled and we know he easily he turns on match officials.
You don’t get a 2 match ban for a red like that but he should have missed today’s game,The scum will have a centre half playing today who should be serving a two match ban. Small things all add up to big things. His second yellow (NOT GIVEN )for going into crowd was a MASSIVE boost for them !
Hard to believe.He's not
Not at all but i think every refs spends a lot of time thinking about protecting their family and their career and it has an effect on their decision making. I would suggest its almost impossible not too given the set up we have here.Do you honestly think Walsh sat ahead of yesterday's game thinking to himself how he was going to try help St Johnstone.
The refs are shit, we had one tell Gerrard he didn't give a handball penalty because it was windy.Not at all but i think every refs spends a lot of time thinking about protecting their family and their career and it has an effect on their decision making. I would suggest its almost impossible not too given the set up we have here.
Like for example the 2 players that should have been red carded for diddy sides and would have been had they been ours. The amount of times the tims could/should have red cards but the ref decides to let it slide.
If you guys know exactly what happens with refereeing, if you are 100 per cent sure bias is impossible cos of something a tim told you or said on the radio, why the fear of joining the other thread to explain a number of crazy performances by Beaton, Clancy, Madden and McLean in recent years which were full of insane decisions all going against Rangers.
I dont even know what to say mate im just going to leave it there ok.The refs are shit, we had one tell Gerrard he didn't give a handball penalty because it was windy.
Doesn't make them cheats.
Yup he was half asleep. Right in line with it.The goalie one he was speaking to the Lino about it, as far as I could see.
Fortunately I don’t know any of that lot so wouldn’t be influenced by them. I haven’t heard the drivel on Radio Clyde since about 2000 so all my thoughts are my own. I thought last week their player was fortunate not to get a red and clearly so did Martindale. Wasn’t as convinced by the second yellow yesterday but at the same time his first yellow could have been red. We got the benefit of a tight call for Colak and they got the benefit of a tight one where the keeper came out the box. Football is riddled with mistakes by player’s, managers and supporters. Refs in my view make the least and are under the most scrutiny. You see marginal decisions played back about 10 times and more often than not they made the right call.Not at all but i think every refs spends a lot of time thinking about protecting their family and their career and it has an effect on their decision making. I would suggest its almost impossible not too given the set up we have here.
Like for example the 2 players that should have been red carded for diddy sides and would have been had they been ours. The amount of times the tims could/should have red cards but the ref decides to let it slide.
If you guys know exactly what happens with refereeing, if you are 100 per cent sure bias is impossible cos of something a tim told you or said on the radio, why the fear of joining the other thread to explain a number of crazy performances by Beaton, Clancy, Madden and McLean in recent years which were full of insane decisions all going against Rangers.
A non cinch team winning the league being difficult for the SPFL was one of the most sinister comments I've heard from any football organisation.Not at all but i think every refs spends a lot of time thinking about protecting their family and their career and it has an effect on their decision making. I would suggest its almost impossible not too given the set up we have here.
Like for example the 2 players that should have been red carded for diddy sides and would have been had they been ours. The amount of times the tims could/should have red cards but the ref decides to let it slide.
If you guys know exactly what happens with refereeing, if you are 100 per cent sure bias is impossible cos of something a tim told you or said on the radio, why the fear of joining the other thread to explain a number of crazy performances by Beaton, Clancy, Madden and McLean in recent years which were full of insane decisions all going against Rangers.
Spot on, the fear they install in the referees is the main problem.I think he is one, like Beaton, whi is so heavily criticised and called a cheat from the other side that he over thinks decisions for us.
His day job seems to be the only reason they think he cheats for us (and the photoshop of him in a Rangers kit).
Oops.You don’t get a 2 match ban for a red like that but he should have missed today’s game,
His momentum took him over the boards, or he would have been.I am surprised that he never booked Tillman for going off the pitch at his goal.
When a celtic player didn't get booked for doing it last week it was a sign of cheating by the ref.I am surprised that he never booked Tillman for going off the pitch at his goal.
Madden was our best ref.Walsh is a self indulgent tadger, but probably the best of a bad bunch.
Clancy - outright cheat, doesn't hide it
Madden - frightened (thankfully gone now)
Collum - frightened and arrogantly helps his team
McLean - whistle happy shortarse
Dallas - cancelled after giving us 4 penalties
Beaton - easily got to
Robertson - junior Clancy