Now is the time for Rangers and their fans to rekindle their Scotland relationship

JamesMc

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We do, however, have a Scottish Government. You yourself directed everyone to one of their publications.

That publication, which you claim supports your arguement, does not in anyway compare the two terms it merely chooses to use the word Nation as opposed to Country but, as noted by others, the two terms are synonymous.

The 8 requirements you then directed people to were not requirements for somewhere to be classified a Country but were, in fact, the requirements to be classed an Independent "Nation".

We are not Independent but are, by all possible definitions, a Country and/or a Nation and to claim otherwise is ludicrous.
Bottom line I’m not Scottish my passport birth lines drivers license al states my country as British , so I’m British that’s my country of birth
 

Leopold

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Bottom line I’m not Scottish my passport birth lines drivers license al states my country as British , so I’m British that’s my country of birth
Whereabouts in this glorious United Kingdom of ours were you born?

Is that a provisional license or did someone else sit the theory test for you?
 

Sarahowen

Member
Is there anyone of those 8,000 questioned on here?

Or even know of anyone who was?
I did, I'm sure it was either through twitter or an email, to be honest I cant remember. My views are along with the higher percentages mentioned. I do still want Scotland to win, I grew up going to Hampden for the home internationals etc and yes the majority there were bears. I don't think however I could ever go and see them again though, not only because the majority of the current fan base are tossers and I couldn't trust myself among them but going to Hamdump is a nightmare and I would only put myself through that for one team, also the football on display is absolutely dire. I could put the win over Serbia on a level with us beating the mankies on penalties under Warburton a few years back, papering over the cracks.
 

1288Bear

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I did, I'm sure it was either through twitter or an email, to be honest I cant remember. My views are along with the higher percentages mentioned. I do still want Scotland to win, I grew up going to Hampden for the home internationals etc and yes the majority there were bears. I don't think however I could ever go and see them again though, not only because the majority of the current fan base are tossers and I couldn't trust myself among them but going to Hamdump is a nightmare and I would only put myself through that for one team, also the football on display is absolutely dire. I could put the win over Serbia on a level with us beating the mankies on penalties under Warburton a few years back, papering over the cracks.
I could be wrong but i thought there was a link to it posted on here at some point.

I certainly completed it and was somewhat pleased to see that my answers, like yours, seemed to align with the majority of our support. It's bad enough feeling like an outsider in your own Country - imagine finding out you were also an outsider amongst your own clubs support :eek:
 

Sarahowen

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I could be wrong but i thought there was a link to it posted on here at some point.

I certainly completed it and was somewhat pleased to see that my answers, like yours, seemed to align with the majority of our support. It's bad enough feeling like an outsider in your own Country - imagine finding out you were also an outsider amongst your own clubs support :eek:
I think the backing of the national team is an age thing, I'm mid 50's and most of my mates are the same as me, want them to do well but no chance of going to see them. The younger generation I think are more against them since 2012 and everything that went on, maybe even earlier than that. Not being at a major tourney doesn't help either. The one thing I think we all agree on is no way could I stand at a ground and cheer on thum heid or stand amongst so called supporters who would boo a player simply because he plays for (or supports) our team. All IMO of course.;)
 

1288Bear

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I think the backing of the national team is an age thing, I'm mid 50's and most of my mates are the same as me, want them to do well but no chance of going to see them. The younger generation I think are more against them since 2012 and everything that went on, maybe even earlier than that. Not being at a major tourney doesn't help either. The one thing I think we all agree on is no way could I stand at a ground and cheer on thum heid or stand amongst so called supporters who would boo a player simply because he plays for (or supports) our team. All IMO of course.;)
Yep - I think most of our generation who have fond memories of following Scotland 70's/80's are of a similar mind.

I certainly wouldn't criticise anyone for continuing to support them but it's just not for me any more.

And, as you suggest, the younger generation, who have only ever known a Scotland team who failed repeatedly to qualify and who have witnessed nothing but hatred from our governing bodies towards our club, are likely to be more hardline and a generation lost to the National team. Can't blame or criticise them for that either.
 

Tam the Weegie

Active Member
It was essentially the so-called Tartan Army that put our club down and in so doing the bar stewards in their misfitting kilts strangled my love of the game. That is not coming back in a hurry. I can't even be bothered with the Champions League that I once loved to watch. Even at club level, there are only one and a half clubs in existence: Rangers and their opposition.
That said, I appreciate what the journalist was saying and the tone of the article. It is a lot better than some of the bilge to which we have become accustomed.
 

Norber

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My take aways on this article are

1) SFA screwed us over but it was our fault
2) We should apologize and move on
3) No harm done - nothing to see
4) Rangers players are needed for serfdom at the SFA and that is more important than club
5) SFA needs Rangers fans money, so hand it over
6) Its ok for most Scotland fans to hate Rangers players and fans but no reciprocal is allowed.

It typifies the arrogance of the press and the SFA apologists that cannot accept their complicity in the reprehensible treatment of Rangers and do not want to understand why there is resentment.
 

Roskoranger

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I don’t remember an article in a similar vein when the RoI were playing Scotland in a Euro qualifier in the late 80’s at Hampden when half the Gallogate and East end where in the opposition end
That is a great post. Most of the Mhanks I know used to follow the Republic and their children used to wear ROI Strips now they are all Scotland Supporters.
 

mulguy1953

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Years ago never missed a Scotland game , cancelled my wedding in 1978 & tanned the lot going to Argentina
Four years later travelled from South Africa to Europe for Spain 82.
Was all set to go to Mexico in 1986 via greyhound bus through the USA & then found out my girlfriend ( now wife ) was pregnant.
Still went to most of the games at Hampden but gradually I felt a bit of animosity from the " trannies" when they realised myself & mates were bluenose,s.
Stopped going around 15 years ago & although I want them to qualify for a major tournament, it's no big deal for me if they don't
Just before I retired I was watching the Auld enemy game in the recreation room offshore when thumbheid scored his free kicks ,I must have been the only Jock who didn't jump to his feet.
However when England scored the last minute equaliser I had to leave the room for a quiet chuckle, should be ashamed but I'm not.
I had a son born in the middle of a Scotland v England game 3.25 PM on a Saturday afternoon 1988, ironically his initials are R.F.C.
 

mart22

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Bottom line I’m not Scottish my passport birth lines drivers license al states my country as British , so I’m British that’s my country of birth
Mate I am proud to be British too. All of my loyalties are for Britain, and I just happen to be a Scot. I'm British first and foremost, so I'm quite staunch. Still not as staunch as you mind you. However, I'd never want to discourage your strong British identity. The UK is indeed our sovereign state, and if you don't recognize Scotland as a country then fill your boots sir. We are British, and there's no disagreement about that :))
 

Krissie

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Personally, I dont give a monkeys about the national team. Apart from Griffiths (and Brown when he was playing) I have nothing against the players, just the SFA and their treatment of us... has left me cold. I cant switch my affection on and off like the Herald seems to think. Football supporting just doesnt work that way.
 

wee bud's pit boots

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I was happy enough for Scotland last week, now that the real football is back I'll likely not give them a second thought till the Euro's start.

I'd rather Rangers beat Falkirk next week than Scotland win the whole Euro's.

Scotland do not come anywhere near my support for Rangers.
Congratulations to the SNP ! as they have managed to divide Scotland in two with their hatred towards all things Protestant and all things Rangers . They turn a blind eye to to bringing justice for people who were sexually abused as children . They enjoy support from groups with leanings towards Irish republicanism and turn a blind eye to groups such as IRPWA and Saoradh activists who collect funds for terrorist prisoners in Irish and Scottish Prisons and their families regularly at the CFC stadium in buckets and the police look the other way . The west of Scotland is becoming a terrorist supporting haven intent on splitting the United Kingdom to achieve their own ends and the SNP are only too happy to put the blinkers on as long as they can get the Anti - English vote . The sooner Scotland wakes up to what's really going on here the better , the kilts and claymore days are long gone and the sooner they realise a United Kingdom is the way forward the better for us all . Oh ! and Humza , your beloved football team are not doing too well either at the moment . :))
Sinn Fein Lite will bring this poxed, wee hole to Civil War.

In one way it might be a good thing as there will only be one winner.
 

CoplandKeklord

Active Member
Seeing Scotland win, all good. But I'll never be going back to games as a supporter, because there's too many people who are determined to give our players grief. Why spend time and money to stand, on a pissing cold midweek night, next to these cvnts giving pelters to Ryan Jack?
 

sammysun

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They have ruined any good that I felt for the SFA run team, what that lot done to my club means I can never go back to seeing them play, again.
 

Gman83

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Not a fuckin chance national team has been hijacked by nationalists fuckin despise the tartan twats
 

WinkieWATP

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Of course it is. Couple of weeks after our manager gets pulled on a nonsensical charge and then our players get dealt with double the suspension of others that did the same thing.

C’mon the Scotland :rolleyes:
 

stramasher

Active Member
Yeah nah. That ship has sailed long ago. Any of our lot playing for them, I just want to see them come back fit.

I’ll never forget.
 

Hindleymonwafc

Active Member
What a conundrum...wear a Rangers top at a Scotland game and get grief. Wear one at an England game and not a dicky bird.

What strange hate filled minds these fuckers have.
 

Luca Stroppi

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I have noticed some in the media recently trying to get bears back on side, don’t know how genuine some of those people are but I doubt there will be a significant number of Rangers fans interested in actively supporting something run by the SFA, then you have stands awash with Rangers haters and a horrible c@nt like Griffiths wearing the dark blue.

After a few decades of driving the wedge between bears and the national team NOTHING has changed in the country for the majority of bears to even contemplate a renewed interest in the Scotland team and if people think qualification for a tournament is a game changer they must still be drunk from the previous week’s celebrating.

The question the article should be asking is why would any Rangers fan in their right mind want to be involved? Back in the day we all felt a part of it, we were all in it together, nowadays we’re a million miles away from that scenario, the thrill is long gone and it won’t be rekindled any time soon, if at all.
 
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