Our biggest problem is this.

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LoopyJuice

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Toe to toe v more accomplished sides we can compete and get results. Eg: Europe and Celtic.
The problem of winning arises when we have to play v 11 opposition players behind the ball, which is all the other games in the SPL. It’s all to do with breaking that resistance down. Gerrard would have experience of this tactic, as many teams deployed it v Liverpool when he was playing and also Charlie Adam had it at Stoke. Why can’t that experience and knowledge be transmitted to the team?
 
LoopyJuice said:
Toe to toe v more accomplished sides we can compete and get results. Eg: Europe and Celtic.
The problem of winning arises when we have to play v 11 opposition players behind the ball, which is all the other games in the SPL. It’s all to do with breaking that resistance down. Gerrard would have experience of this tactic, as many teams deployed it v Liverpool when he was playing and also Charlie Adam had it at Stoke. Why can’t that experience and knowledge be transmitted to the team?
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Disagree. We have lost the vast majority of our points from a winning position. We break teams down. We lose too many goals and let teams back in. Aberdeen, Killie, Hearts, today all from at least a goal up.
 
LoopyJuice said:
Toe to toe v more accomplished sides we can compete and get results. Eg: Europe and Celtic.
The problem of winning arises when we have to play v 11 opposition players behind the ball, which is all the other games in the SPL. It’s all to do with breaking that resistance down. Gerrard would have experience of this tactic, as many teams deployed it v Liverpool when he was playing and also Charlie Adam had it at Stoke. Why can’t that experience and knowledge be transmitted to the team?
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Liverpool during Gerrard time we’re always able to lift themselves during big European games and the bigger teams in the EPL but struggled to do compete over a season against the lesser ones. Concerning comparison
 
LoopyJuice said:
Toe to toe v more accomplished sides we can compete and get results. Eg: Europe and Celtic.
The problem of winning arises when we have to play v 11 opposition players behind the ball, which is all the other games in the SPL. It’s all to do with breaking that resistance down. Gerrard would have experience of this tactic, as many teams deployed it v Liverpool when he was playing and also Charlie Adam had it at Stoke. Why can’t that experience and knowledge be transmitted to the team?
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Not disagreeing with you but whats Charlie Adam got to do with this?
 
Our biggest problem is the chances taken vs chances created ratio. We created 21 chances today and took 2. Was the same last season. We create a lot but don’t convert anywhere near as many as we should.

Our defence has made a few glaring errors recently but we can safeguard against this by being 3 or 4 up when that happens
 
Our biggest problem is our slow, predictable build up play. Every scottish team are quite happy fo let our central defenders have the ball for they know its getting played to the side n back then, when theres a pass forward 9 times out of ten the ballslofted high and out for a throw in.
Compare this yesterday when the second half started and there was quick movement, runners. Suddenly we are winning having scored 2 goals. Then, shock horror, we revert back to the slow predictable passing. Lo and behold. St Johnstone get a set play and score from it. Individual errors certainly plays a part but we most certainly dont help ourselves sometimes.
What i have noticed since the winter break is a lot of the time if there is a loose ball we have no one willing to step in and make it theirs. Guys are looking at each other as if saying are you going for it or am i. We need leaders not indecision gentlemen.
 
Blu_ultra said:
Disagree. We have lost the vast majority of our points from a winning position. We break teams down. We lose too many goals and let teams back in. Aberdeen, Killie, Hearts, today all from at least a goal up.
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Fkn spot on, my friend.

We HAVE broken teams down. However, we can't hold it and close it out.
 
Got no reflection on his playing career, lampard played in a Chelsea side who I'm sure didn't lose a home game under Mourinho for a season plus, they have lost something like 7 home games. Chelsea aren't Rangers and the demands are very different. If we had Wenger in charge would we be going through his limited career highlights for comparison
 
If memory serves me correctly Gerrard admitted when playing his team struggled to break down teams that sit in. I think it was on the Sky programme with Neville. In my opinion Gerrard needs to bring in someone who knows the Scottish game inside out to augment his ideas on how the team should play.
 
Blu_ultra said:
Disagree. We have lost the vast majority of our points from a winning position. We break teams down. We lose too many goals and let teams back in. Aberdeen, Killie, Hearts, today all from at least a goal up.
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We need a Terry Hurlock type for this. If we take the lead, Kent off midfield enforcer on.
 
Our issue is, we get ahead and settle for it, almost relieved and thankful.
celtic get ahead and they go for the kill
 
Being scared to play 4-4-2 because its such a simple formation and one that isnt exactly going to impress anyone down south, quite the opposite, not just starting fast and getting the ball forward let them make mistakes too many short passes going nowhere. Wouldnt say our defence is dreadful, was yesterday, but they seem to make unforced errors at the most crucial times.

You need to adapt to scottish football with every season Walter is looking an even better boss than we thought he was.

Small squad playing euro games then taking on some crazy gang outfit on the Sunday, players look tired it is a tough schedule.

Also Collum was fine, usually is tbf, but the rest of the refs were never going to let Rangers win that title be the same for the next manager. We focus on players out, next boss if SG goes in the summer and im pretty sure now he will, but forget the shameful behaviour of the men in the middle. The friendship between refs and the tims is as much of an issue as anything else.
 
LoopyJuice said:
Toe to toe v more accomplished sides we can compete and get results. Eg: Europe and Celtic.
The problem of winning arises when we have to play v 11 opposition players behind the ball, which is all the other games in the SPL. It’s all to do with breaking that resistance down. Gerrard would have experience of this tactic, as many teams deployed it v Liverpool when he was playing and also Charlie Adam had it at Stoke. Why can’t that experience and knowledge be transmitted to the team?
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We had 21 shots 9 on target yesterday how much more should we have broke their resistance down,we also gave the lead away .
 
The defence has fallen on its arse since December 29th and Morelos has gone off the boil since then, due to a combo of off the field hassle and too much pick n mix. There are your main reasons.
 
St Johnston never sat in against us yesterday. They should’ve been 2 up in the first half. Our inability to take chances and consistently making calamitous errors at the back is what is costing us.
 
The biggest problem is the players are not performing there is no fight or desire too many are not producing and that’s a worrying stat considering before the winter break we were playing great football something somewhere is not right.
 
chickenhawk said:
We need a Terry Hurlock type for this. If we take the lead, Kent off midfield enforcer on.
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Unfortunately, that type of player in the present climate wouldn't survive a game playing for us in Scotland,if on the other hand they were playing for the opposition then they would be allowed to play their game.
 
No. Our biggest issue is we have an underperforming midfield who are all to comfortable giving the ball back to a poor defence ala pass the buck We can feck about with 10 passes to end up where we started from.... and that's usually back at Goldson's feet. It's like the players are on commission for passing the ball back to him. Midfielders receiving the ball and giving it to him does my head in.
 
LoopyJuice said:
Toe to toe v more accomplished sides we can compete and get results. Eg: Europe and Celtic.
The problem of winning arises when we have to play v 11 opposition players behind the ball, which is all the other games in the SPL. It’s all to do with breaking that resistance down. Gerrard would have experience of this tactic, as many teams deployed it v Liverpool when he was playing and also Charlie Adam had it at Stoke. Why can’t that experience and knowledge be transmitted to the team?
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because the team always picks the pass that is likely to find a team mate. They are scared of making the pass that is most dangerous as it may be less likely of finding their man. It becomes tippy tappy football.

And it has become hard to adopt. As even when a defence splitting pass is on we dont do it and when we do the recipient is not expecting it. As this has been drilled into them.

Possession football with no end product is the result. As by the time we go for the jugular the opposition have closed ranks and awaiting what we do next.

Over the river they dont give them time to regroup. They are always looking for the jugular. Which works in the SPFL against shit teams.
 
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