Our board and the war we face

Laudrup1

Laudrup1

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Let's get the usual clarifications out of the way...

Folk should be aware that the likes of FARE operate in a manner to harm Rangers.
Fans well and truly know what word isn't allowed to be sung and that singing Super Rangers or TBB is moronic.
There's no defending the actions of fans who continue to ignore this however "put upon" we might be on the matter.

That being said. Our fucking board really need to wake up and declare outright war on these fucking cunts. From FARE to the likes of the BBC, anyone like Spiers and the other selectarian crusaders who darken the Scottish press with their pish or cunts like the convicted drunk driving Killie board member happy to slander our fans after they've been crushed at their midden.

Trying to fix problems with the BBC isn't working. Appeasing FARE with nice campaigns on the screens at Ibrox isn't working. Pandering to people who hate us isn't working either.

Start by employing a PR firm that actually fucking know what they're doing in terms of presenting the business.

We're in a war and being attacked on a daily basis and while our board did a lot to help us in ridding the Spivs, they've been congratulated on that enough too. Start defending us in the manner we need given the current political situation in Scotland.
 
As long as people are singing about the pope and being up o their knees in 19th Century Terrorist blood we do not have a leg to stand on. There will be further bans for larger areas of the stadium if it continues. Times have changed and the fans need to change with them. Thems the facts.
 
Laudrup1 said:
Let's get the usual clarifications out of the way...

Folk should be aware that the likes of FARE operate in a manner to harm Rangers.
Fans well and truly know what word isn't allowed to be sung and that singing Super Rangers or TBB is moronic.
There's no defending the actions of fans who continue to ignore this however "put upon" we might be on the matter.

That being said. Our fucking board really need to wake up and declare outright war on these fucking cunts. From FARE to the likes of the BBC, anyone like Spiers and the other selectarian crusaders who darken the Scottish press with their pish or cunts like the convicted drunk driving Killie board member happy to slander our fans after they've been crushed at their midden.

Trying to fix problems with the BBC isn't working. Appeasing FARE with nice campaigns on the screens at Ibrox isn't working. Pandering to people who hate us isn't working either.

Start by employing a PR firm that actually fucking know what they're doing in terms of presenting the business.

We're in a war and being attacked on a daily basis and while our board did a lot to help us in ridding the Spivs, they've been congratulated on that enough too. Start defending us in the manner we need given the current political situation in Scotland.
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You want the board to declare ware on uefa and fare? And you think this will work how? Uefa will just go - aye, on you go sing what you want. Sorry boys.

Honestly mate, think before you write. We’re just a club in a big world of uefa. They couldn’t care less if we go to war. What exactly would that involve? The club have no option but to try and get this sorted in a way that avoids more financial and reputational harm.
 
They're not fighting. They are going to - imho - open talks with the kind of people who want a LGBTQ RSC started up. They are going to move to some "Rangers in The 21st Century" blueprint to remove the 'nasty bad boys'. There is no way they will actually take on Lawell or anyone else.
 
No Money No Problems said:
We need to stop singing the songs BUT BUT BUT

There is not buts, we need to stop singing those songs and every other group or organisation are irrelevant.

This is on us as a support.
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Aye, and you've still not read or understood the point of the thread.

There's no but. We shouldn't sing the songs. I've said that.

The rest of the post is entirely valid.
 
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Thread should be binned. We can’t make any progress on these issues as long as our fans keep singing this shite.

Need to simply kick out those that can’t change before we are totally banned.
 
Earl of Leven said:
They're not fighting. They are going to - imho - open talks with the kind of people who want a LGBTQ RSC started up. They are going to move to some "Rangers in The 21st Century" blueprint to remove the 'nasty bad boys'. There is no way they will actually take on Lawell or anyone else.
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The reality is we cannot fight Uefa and win. All we can do is limit the damage they inflict upon us.
 
texas_pedro said:
You want the board to declare ware on uefa and fare? And you think this will work how? Uefa will just go - aye, on you go sing what you want. Sorry boys.

Honestly mate, think before you write. We’re just a club in a big world of uefa. They couldn’t care less if we go to war. What exactly would that involve? The club have no option but to try and get this sorted in a way that avoids more financial and reputational harm.
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I didn't mention going to war with Uefa. You might want to try again.

We absolutely can call out the bias of FARE while acknowledging the songs shouldn't be sung.

We are targeted for signing "sectarian" songs by people with their own sectarian issues and views for attacking us.

Deal with the singing by all means and rightly so.

Deal with the issues that see us pilloried on a daily basis instead of trying to cosy up to people who have no interest in reporting on us equally.
 
A complete and utter embarrassment. The war is with a bunch of idiots who will not accept that they can’t just sing what they want and get away with it. I’m sick hearing excuses about what happens elsewhere. If you’re a Rangers supporter you act in the best interests of Rangers and nothing else matters. If you can’t accept that then you are the only enemy of the club.
 
The worst thing about all this farce is that it is so one-sided (not going down the route of whataboutery).
Undoubtedly there are words that our support should drop but when similar words and worse are ignored when other supports use them you can understand the resentment and the wish to hit back. Thankfully the word “paedo” hasn’t been banned YET.
 
Aye let's just bend over and receive it as usual. F*CK that. Give us a level playing field and we'll stop. 1 rendition of the Billy boys gets us a stadium closure while weekly uefa fines and "19th Century Terrorist army" banners across at the piggery are sound? %^*& uefa and %^*& fare.

Get your heads out the sand. They came for the BB coz they feared it, they'll just keep coming, next week it'll be something else. They even came for the hokey cokey FFS!! Simply giving up and bending over to poets in high positions has put us in this position.
 
Rule Britannia said:
Aye let's just bend over and receive it as usual. F*CK that. Give us a level playing field and we'll stop. 1 rendition of the Billy boys gets us a stadium closure while weekly uefa fines and "19th Century Terrorist army" banners across at the piggery are sound? %^*& uefa and %^*& fare.

Get your heads out the sand. They came for the BB coz they feared it, they'll just keep coming, next week it'll be something else. They even came for the hokey cokey FFS!! Simply giving up and bending over to poets in high positions has put us in this position.
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Aye... ehmm aye...
 
There are people working round the clock to harm our club and Rangers as a football club need to call them out

We are the victims of a sectarian witch-hunt

They’re are numerous other examples with other clubs but it’s Rangers that are being targeted by the sane people who are turning a blind eye to similar behaviour elsewhere

It won’t stop ever , even if we sat and said nothing they’d still find something , our very existence disturbs them

We must defend this as a club and be allowed our say , it’s getting that bad that if we are in with a chance of winning the league this season they’ll be calling for a points deduction for waving a union flag

We are in a war Rangers ... wakey wakey it’s time to fight back and fight dirty

This wouldn’t happen to Man United

And another thing I think this whole thing is been driven to ban us from Europe as the mentally challengeds need champions league football to survive with their 60 million wage bill , if we were to win the league and handed a European ban then it would leave a clear path for the club like no other to take our place

The IRA choirmaster and uefa delegate Delaney and his cronies with be pushing this

Rangers as a club must fight this and question the integrity of the people continually reporting our club
 
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Aye FARE target us

Whats your point caller?

If the cops stick a video camera in your face and you do something you have been told not to do........it's not the cop's fault. Stand up in court "aye well he wasn't videoing anyone else, just me", you still done it

Stop singing the songs, they hurt the club
 
Hipster Dashie said:
Your post is simply wrong.
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Nah, you've not understood it or simply don't get the wider picture.

Going by your other post on the thread, I see you've missed me saying that the songs should indeed be stopped singing.

You clearly think that in doing so, everything will be rosey in the World and Rangers won't suffer continued attacks from people who hate us.
 
weevlad said:
Aye FARE target us

Whats your point caller?

If the cops stick a video camera in your face and you do something you have been told not to do........it's not the cop's fault. Stand up in court "aye well he wasn't videoing anyone else, just me", you still done it

Stop singing the songs, they hurt the club
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Yes, I've said stop singing the songs.

The rest of the post is about a wider picture.
 
Dado's Bandage said:
A complete and utter embarrassment. The war is with a bunch of idiots who will not accept that they can’t just sing what they want and get away with it. I’m sick hearing excuses about what happens elsewhere. If you’re a Rangers supporter you act in the best interests of Rangers and nothing else matters. If you can’t accept that then you are the only enemy of the club.
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Nope, the war is with the people who hate us.

We're all agreed the songs should stop. The people who sing them do us damage.

There's more to our issues than that though and that needs addressed.
 
RFC4ME said:
If our board came out and defender half the shite people sing at our games they would make Rangers, and about 90% of our support look like a shower of fucken idiots.

There is %^*& all wrong re our "reputation" etc and so on - it's dross shite that gets dragged up by some on here like it has substance and meaning but to about 99.99999997% of the outside world of FF no one ever thinks twice about it.
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There's nothing wrong with our reputation? Did you see the reaction from the press and Kilmarnock's convicted drink driving board member with regards to our fans being involved in a crush pre-match?

Our fans were demonised for the failure of Killie's ticketing system and the failure of their club to protect the fans with stewarding and policing.

That comes purely because people are allowed to criticise our fans with impunity and the board play in to the hands of those who hate us constantly.
 
We need to stop singing sectarian songs. Fact.

What happens then? Everything just goes rosey? We need to keep ourselves in the right but itd be nice to see that everyones held to the same fucking standards. Thats not unreasonable.
 
StuMac1972 said:
Or maybe we simply stop singing songs that are nothing to do with our club or football.
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How long have you been following Rangers?

TBB is our anthem ffs. Has been for decades so regardless of what the lyrics say it is everything to do with us, it’s been a war cry to rouse the team to victory and sung in moments of defiance.

Pisses me off the fact that so many of our fans as well as our board seem to be happy just to meekly accept our fate as well as completely disregard a song which has been part of us for generations
 
The board don’t give a %^*& about you or your opinions we are customers to them they have never defended us
 
Laudrup1 said:
There's nothing wrong with our reputation? Did you see the reaction from the press and Kilmarnock's convicted drink driving board member with regards to our fans being involved in a crush pre-match?

Our fans were demonised for the failure of Killie's ticketing system and the failure of their club to protect the fans with stewarding and policing.

That comes purely because people are allowed to criticise our fans with impunity and the board play in to the hands of those who hate us constantly.
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YOU - YOU in your own attempts to be critical of the board are finding the same issues the board face YOU are being critical of face

You are trying to counter balance your point by being pragmatic and saying "aye i know the songs are shite and that"

By doing that YOU put what you are saying on the back foot which is the exact same place the board start from.

There is no Spiers, BBC thing with this....

dick fans sung dick songs - loads of this fucks off if they shut up.

Re the rest of your point - the board dealt with that in balance, this is just another issue - the two things are miles apart
 
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Troy McClure said:
We need to stop singing sectarian songs. Fact.

What happens then? Everything just goes rosey? We need to keep ourselves in the right but itd be nice to see that everyones held to the same fucking standards. Thats not unreasonable.
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You do realise that the term no surrender is seen as sectarian by our many haters ? What'll you do when they come after us for that ?
 
We need to act now. The billy boys must be banned outright. This has got to be the final straw from the board. To the fans who continue to sing the billy boys; stop damaging our great club.
 
No Money No Problems said:
Aye, it's all FAREs fault.

Bin this fucking thread.
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well lets examine your comments.

Fare chief executive and his mrs and both enthusiastic Celtic fans
Fare have totally ignored their racist anti British songs and sectarian anti Protestant songs.
just the other week Celtic fans were throwing missiles at the Cluj players
Celtic have had countless fines over the years but never a punishment like ours
They had a banner declaring they are a "19th Century Terrorist army" just the other wk

SO


Why not report their sectarianism and racism?This organisation is either against ALL abuse or it isnt.
 
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The OP is bang on the money so give the guy a break, he's saying certain songs are wrong and shouldn't be sung, but the rest of his post is what we've all been thinking for a long long time.

It's time Rangers.
 
Let's call a spade a spade ,FARE are a joke but at this moment in time they have the ear of Uefa and have them convinced the word 19th Century Terrorist refers to Catholics in general .

Like it or not that battle was lost long ago , is it right , no but it is what it is.

We need to learn to be a bit more clever than we are at present .

No one likes the situation but self harm is not the answer.
 
Troy McClure said:
We need to stop singing sectarian songs. Fact.

What happens then? Everything just goes rosey? We need to keep ourselves in the right but itd be nice to see that everyones held to the same fucking standards. Thats not unreasonable.
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what sectarian songs? they had a banner the other week declaring they are a 19th Century Terrorist army?
 
The board has made their opinion clear don't sing the songs however they should point out that we are not the only club to have fans who sing sectarian songs or hurl racist abuse on match day and we expect similar punishments to be handed out to those clubs accordingly
 
Does this Uefa punishment then give the SFA the balls to say "wait a minute if Uefa can punish them, then so can we for league games"--you know they would look at any reason to hammer us.
 
RFC4ME said:
YOU - YOU in your own attempts to be critical of the board are finding the same issues the board YOU are being critical of face

You are trying to counter balance your point by being pragmatic and saying "aye i know the songs are shite and that"

By doing that YOU put what you are saying on the back foot which is the exact same place the board start from.

There is no Spiers, BBC thing with this....

dick fans sung dick songs - loads of this fucks off if they shut up.

Re the rest of your point - the board dealt with that in balance, this is just another issue - the two things are miles apart
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YOU don't get it.

Stop singing the songs, yes.

The board don't deal with everything in balance at all. They're meek as %^*& when it comes to dealing with our detractors BBC / Stewart / Spiers / Radio Clyde / anyone who make a a living from spending their life attacking us.

That then leads to us being an easy target for anything as the cruch at Killie proves when Rangers fans got the blame for a possibly near fatal incident and no adequate response came from our board on the matter.

They need to wake up and deal with these issues and then the wider support might also be able to back them more often and call out people who sing songs they shouldn't .

I'll say it again if it makes you happy. The songs should be stopped.

The rest of the issues are entirely something the board is failing us on on a daily basis.
 
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