P R Wars

Withambear

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being going on for years, give them an inch etc. Murray has to shoulder a lot of the blam with the lack of defence for Findlay/Ferguson (Duncan) etc. our pr is non existent and everyone can have a free shot
 

Commentator

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being going on for years, give them an inch etc. Murray has to shoulder a lot of the blam with the lack of defence for Findlay/Ferguson (Duncan) etc. our pr is non existent and everyone can have a free shot
Murray sold the club down the river for his own benefit. He bolstered his companies and got a knighthood out of it. He did it for a reason.
The current board are the polar opposite of that snake.
So, why does it continue?
 

bulldozer

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it annoys me because were always there for the club through thick and thin and we always will be but when the support needs backing nothing
 

knightswood_bear

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It's a strange one - they think that we are far better at going on the attack and defending ourselves and see their board as far too passive.

On here we think that they are far better at it and our board are too passive.

I think our board get way too hard a time over this - they can't issue a statement about everything, however in the social media age supporters will analyse almost every article in the press that related to Rangers and call for action.

At the same time I think we give their board far too much credit.

Talk of a PR war is a bit nuts - both boards are trying to appease the support, while having to pick their battles because outside of supporters most people view the volume of these statements as ridiculous.

All the while 'journalists' egos get massaged, and they will privately be pissing themselves at how easy it is get a reaction as they have half of Glasgow talking about their article - I guess it's their only way of trying to stay relevant in a dying industry.
 

Troy McClure

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In the society we live in right now, you cant afford to give space to your adversaries - if they slip up the only way you get what you want is to shamelessly go on the attack. We need to stop trying to mediate and get them all telt exactly what time it is
 

temperance

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That’s why Holicom ate paid vast sums of money, they are the best and most expensive in the country, and one of the reasons you hear next to nothing about the scandal at the stydome.
 

baystatebear

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If I had the resources and financial means to improve one thing about Rangers, I devote every penny toward creating a proper PR department. First task on the agenda would be the formation of a 'rapid response' team charged with aggressively challenging every negative/fake news story that is printed or broadcast re. Rangers. Nothing would go unanswered.

In addition to having a thorough knowledge of Rangers history, the people performing this vital role would be extremely tech/media savvy, possess top-notch writing skills utilising wit and humour when appropriate, but also capable of bringing a sharper, hard-hitting, more aggressive edge when required to go on the offensive. Skills in graphics and creative manipulation of imagery would also be required. The creation of a professional website, a blog, and the issuing of daily 'Press Releases' would form part of the remit.

For decades now, the club has been deaf, dumb and blind in recognizing the need for such an operation, during which time Rangers and their supporters have been demonized and vilified, whilst witnessing the club brought almost to the bink of destruction, due to a phony but well orchestrated campaign by its enemies. The official response to all of this from those in charge has been quite pathetic. I was never sure is this was the result of a fear to challenge a media dominated as it now is with forces hostile to Rangers, or they simply have a blind spot when it comes to the recognizing the crucial role that PR plays in modern culture.
 

wee bud's pit boots

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I've always thought to have a war you need at least two participants.

We haven't been a participant in my lifetime. Unless you count banning the filth from Ibrox in April 1994.

Until we get our head around the word religion and confront it, we are Donald Ducked.

I simply cannot see us winning this league or be allowed to.

Our reaction in the aftermath of Dec 29th, 2019 being a major reason as to why.

The silence from the club since they were telling us there would be a follow up statement to the SFA charges is embarrassing and laughable. Laughable if you are a Rangers hater that is.

The boot of a Compliance officer and the SFA should be on the run. That is simply not the case. It's us that are doing the running.

It is now coming up for five years since the board took us away from the vermin running us into the ground. It seems like that is what they are still dining out on.

It is now and always was unacceptable.

If you won't or can't defend the club then at least invite people in who will.
 

barrheadbear

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Its not a war. To have a war you need 2 sides to attack.
Out board are an absolute disgrace and I'm getting fucking sick of it.
Spot on. Only a week ago, last Friday to be exact, a brief statement was released from the Rangers Board in response to the Club being cited for our staff's actions in our last two away League games. In that statement the Board quite clearly stated that a further communication, probably more robust respionse, would be issued after that weekend. Well to date not a single word has been issued.

We are a shambles in this PR war, our response to the many attacks on our club over the years is to keep a dignified silence and if, on the rare occasion that we do issue something, it is usually pitiful and spineless.

One only has to look at the clubs response to the attack on our players and staff at the 2016 Cup final. A decent initial statement gave the impression that the Board had at long last grown a set and were going to stand for no nonesense. However despite the mhedia narrative very quickly pinning the blame for the trouble equally on both sets of supporters not a further word was heard from the Rangers Board. To this day Hibs fans can openly talk of that pitch invasion with a sense of pride - you can imagine the vitriol aimed towards our support by our mhedia if the shoe was on the other foot and we had acted in similar fashion had we been victorious that day.

I long for the day our Board meet fire with fire but unfortunately have learned over the years not to expect to much from them despite the many times robust action has been called for. Their silence once again, no matter how infuriating, is not a surprise and is not unexpected. Oh how I wish our present incumbents would prove me wrong but down the years covering their ears and burying their heads in the sand has been our Boards normal reaction to events and it appears nothing is going to change any time soon.
 

Desert Loyal

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Timmy is clearly flexing it's PR and media control muscles. Win 55 and not one article, statement or letter to the SFA will matter a jot. We have to win it and it has to be this year.
 

deedle

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Ì can. All the way through 9 Murray controlled the media.
Only in terms of the publicity surrounding signings and so on and the fact that Celtic did not provide a serious challenge.

The warning signs were there. By 8IAR Keevins and others had started their war against referees which ultimately paid off.

James MacMillan was soon to set the ball rolling re the sectarianism industry with his ludicrous speech at the Edinburgh Festival in the wake of devolution.

Soon Catholics became prominent in the media - taking over the Herald editorial positions, for example - and dictated McConnell’s narrative that sectarianism was a major problem and one side was nearly entirely to blame.

Murray had no answer to any of this and attacks on the club rather than him on a personal level were of little concern.
 

wee bud's pit boots

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Ì can. All the way through 9 Murray controlled the media.
That has to be one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever seen on here.

If Murray controlled the media it was for his own purposes.

However in the real world he allowed the club and support to be demonised and dehumanised throughout.
 

deedle

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It's a strange one - they think that we are far better at going on the attack and defending ourselves and see their board as far too passive.

On here we think that they are far better at it and our board are too passive.

I think our board get way too hard a time over this - they can't issue a statement about everything, however in the social media age supporters will analyse almost every article in the press that related to Rangers and call for action.

At the same time I think we give their board far too much credit.

Talk of a PR war is a bit nuts - both boards are trying to appease the support, while having to pick their battles because outside of supporters most people view the volume of these statements as ridiculous.

All the while 'journalists' egos get massaged, and they will privately be pissing themselves at how easy it is get a reaction as they have half of Glasgow talking about their article - I guess it's their only way of trying to stay relevant in a dying industry.
By 'they' do you mean the Celtic support? If so, this is a perversion of the truth.

As for being unable to issue a statement about 'everything', the only statement in recent months was an initial comment after the Parkhead match about introducing VAR.

Since then, we had a brief comment saying that the club would release a statement following the trumped up SFA charges 'after the weekend'.

Which was last weekend - and so far, nothing!

You're completely out to lunch on this issue.
 

Big D

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It helps just a tad when the media is full of tims
This! When they do what they have done this week, they have a compliant media full of cheerleaders to their cause. We don't and end up being criticised and ridiculed when we go on the attack. It's easy to criticise the board, but when the media is full of people like English, Keevins, Stewart, Sutton, Spiers, Sutton etc etc, it's difficult to control the narrative. We've seen that in the 3 weeks (and counting) since we had the temerity to turn them over in their own midden. Sadly in Scotland, the tail is wagging the dog.
 

wee bud's pit boots

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This! When they do what they have done this week, they have a compliant media full of cheerleaders to their cause. We don't and end up being criticised and ridiculed when we go on the attack. It's easy to criticise the board, but when the media is full of people like English, Keevins, Stewart, Sutton, Spiers, Sutton etc etc, it's difficult to control the narrative. We've seen that in the 3 weeks (and counting) since we had the temerity to turn them over in their own midden. Sadly in Scotland, the tail is wagging the dog.
But it would be nice if the dog could put its teeth back in (copyright, Andy Partridge) and bite back.
 

Rockathon

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We're either shit scared of the media or have taken a view that it's just not worth it. Frightening on every level.
 

The Duck

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Their skill is not to get caught up in a single issue.

Multiple attacks from different sources on different topics: alfie, Griffiths, singing
 

Bluegeo64

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it annoys me because were always there for the club through thick and thin and we always will be but when the support needs backing nothing
As fans surely we can get more organised too? What about regular orchestrated tifo displays calling out media double standards- paedophile cover ups etcetera at selected points during matches including the Govan Stand where tv will pick it up.

There could also be further protests at BBC and at press outlets calling for equality.

The club will soon get the message that we ain't prepared to tolerate second class status

You've got to hand it to Scumtic they act while all we do is whinge
 

knightswood_bear

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By 'they' do you mean the Celtic support? If so, this is a perversion of the truth.

As for being unable to issue a statement about 'everything', the only statement in recent months was an initial comment after the Parkhead match about introducing VAR.

Since then, we had a brief comment saying that the club would release a statement following the trumped up SFA charges 'after the weekend'.

Which was last weekend - and so far, nothing!

You're completely out to lunch on this issue.
Maybe I am - however it’s what I observed during the fallout from our win at Parkhead.

We highlighted the that Morelos received racist abuse. From what I saw Celtic supporters claimed it didn’t happen and were furious at their board for its response and felt that we played the PR game better than they did.

That could be a one off reaction rather than an overall feeling I would have to concede.

It’s a bit cute to say ‘an initial comment about introducing VAR’ - that statement also said Morelos was being judged differently from other players, and specifically detailed a number of recent decisions that have been incorrectly given against us.
 

SSR

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The people they wheel out.. Their opinion shouldn't be held in any high regard.
But on the other hand we say nothing!!
 

insanicdrunk

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The problem for us is that they ARE the media, in the main. How many pundits and journalists represent them ? Far too many, and it isn't by chance. Media, politics, you name it. They speak as one, as most corrupted people do.
The fhilth effectively own PR in this country, and will do as long as the media remain as one sided as they are. Can we honestly rely on it to serve us ? or local/national politics ? Publicly funded BBC Scotland ? It's just pissing in the wind as far as Rangers are concerned.
I've said this before, their in house PR isn't much better than ours, its the fact that the media report it differently.

Gerrard saying Morelos is targets, laughed at basically.
Lemmon saying witch hunt for Griffiths, media backing it.

Go back to warburton, mentions plastic pitches, gets pooh-pooh'ed, the sainted brenda does it and it is such an insight!

As for this latest drama, this was one comment by a pundit, nothing major TBH, nothing all his managers have said before, they have said it is a witch hunt and the media should be laughing at that, but no they are all falling into line.
 

trueblue77

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I've said this before, their in house PR isn't much better than ours, its the fact that the media report it differently.

Gerrard saying Morelos is targets, laughed at basically.
Lemmon saying witch hunt for Griffiths, media backing it.

Go back to warburton, mentions plastic pitches, gets pooh-pooh'ed, the sainted brenda does it and it is such an insight!

As for this latest drama, this was one comment by a pundit, nothing major TBH, nothing all his managers have said before, they have said it is a witch hunt and the media should be laughing at that, but no they are all falling into line.
I agree. Unless a direct working relationship was to be proven between their club and the various media outlets backing them then they have little advantage over us in my opinion. Their statements and PR initiatives can be pretty poor and cringeworthy. The media do it all for them. How it got to this point ? I have a good idea, but I see no way of reversing it at present. Rangers are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.
 

deedle

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Maybe I am - however it’s what I observed during the fallout from our win at Parkhead.

We highlighted the that Morelos received racist abuse. From what I saw Celtic supporters claimed it didn’t happen and were furious at their board for its response and felt that we played the PR game better than they did.

That could be a one off reaction rather than an overall feeling I would have to concede.

It’s a bit cute to say ‘an initial comment about introducing VAR’ - that statement also said Morelos was being judged differently from other players, and specifically detailed a number of recent decisions that have been incorrectly given against us.
The Rangers website carried an article in which Stewart Robertson made some comments in quotation marks about VAR (none about racism, though). He refused to criticise referees.

The article cited some examples of decisions that had cost the club but this was an argument for VAR.


There was mention the following day of Morelos being racially abused but this came from 'a club spokesman' and wasn't a bona fide statement. This was possibly inadvisable since the audio evidence was inconclusive.


The club should have gauged the reaction of fans and homed in on refereeing. Robertson chose the wrong priorities - our input quickly fizzled out and the refusal to hold referees to account is an own-goal.
 

Commentator

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I now refuse to believe Traynor is responsible for our PR. He might be a lot of things but he's not as incompetent as our PR.
This is coming from the top.
 
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