Bret HartYour mixing Messi up with CM Punk mate
Plus he escaped aswellMessi would more likely protect nazis, the great Pele scored against them with broken/cracked ribs ffs, so no contest really.
Your mixing Messi up with CM Punk mate
Read that he was most Brazilians favourite player when he was playing. He lived quite a lifeI hate all these whos the best footballer ever debates.
When asked I seriously say Manuel Francisco dos Santos "the little bird" Garrincha
Not only am I being 100% sincere but he was technically disabled.
He defo would have got a orange badge for his motor defo.
Seriously read up on the guy and watch the few clips on him on youtube the things he could do with what you would call a medicine ball compared to these floaters now a day was unbelievable.
He did lose his virginity to a goat though so probably would have been happy with last nights result.
Brazilian football legend Pele has launched an astonishing attack on Barcelona star Lionel Messi by claiming he has just ‘one-skill’.
The three-time World Cup winner claimed he was the better player because he was a more complete performer than the Argentina forward.
Pele also added that Diego Maradona was a ‘much better’ player than the five-time Ballon D’Or winner as he addressed a wave of assessments of the current crop of the world’s best players
“How can you make a comparison between a guy who heads the ball well, shoots with the left, shoots with the right and another who only shoots with one leg, only has one skill and doesn’t head the ball well?” Pele told Folha de Sao Paulo when asked about Messi.
“How can you compare? To compare with Pele, it has to be someone who shoots well with the left, shoots well with the right, and scores headers.”
He also dismissed any claims that there are similarities between Messi and Maradona, who he believes is one of the greatest players of all time.
"As far as I’m concerned, Maradona was one of the best players ever. If you ask me, 'Was he better than Messi?' Yes, he was. Much better. [Franz] Beckenbauer, [Johan] Cruyff were also excellent players."
That’s pretty much how I see it too.I'd rate both Pele and Maradona just above Messi, but can understand why the young guns of today will disagree.
1. Maradona
2 Pele
3. Messi
4. Best
5. Cryuff
This Messi wankfest needs to end now!
Has Pele ever posed with a Celtic strip in his pomp?
Pele might be as bland as pot noodle Re controversy but that's what being a FIFA Ambassador is all about unlike that lady's front bottom Maradona but has he ever been involved with an organsation who refuses to recognize a foreign countries name and who's country invaded it by a fascistic regime?
Has Pele ever got the petted lip and cried "anti-football" at Rangers just cause he or his team mates couldnt score a goal against Rangers?
Naw didnt think so!
So %^*& Messi and %^*& Maradona
And their disrespectful Jesuit bishop of Rome!
Drugs are bad for youWould have Davie Cooper over Messi, Maradona and Pele every day of the week.
Fair enough but I'd rather someone picked a side than pose with both. Regardless of age,experience or the inability to get a hard onI did qualify my statement with "in his pomp" TBF to Pele I dont think he would even get in the Craiglang 5 a side there.
Drugs are bad for you
Whenever this thread comes up I try to imagine peak Federer blasting the ball past peak Fred Perry. These guys would look like aliens if they went back in time.
You've took that too farPele is correct . He and maradona are miles ahead of the rest .
Messi would be 5th or 6th mind you so I think peles comments on him having one skill are frankly ridiculous .
For me it’s Pele, Maradona, Cryff , Michael Laudrup , Messi in that order .
Dont remember thatExcept that Maradona was a midfielder.
This Messi wankfest needs to end now!
Has Pele ever posed with a Celtic strip in his pomp?
Pele might be as bland as pot noodle Re controversy but that's what being a FIFA Ambassador is all about unlike that lady's front bottom Maradona but has he ever been involved with an organsation who refuses to recognize a foreign countries name and who's country invaded it by a fascistic regime?
Has Pele ever got the petted lip and cried "anti-football" at Rangers just cause he or his team mates couldnt score a goal against Rangers?
Naw didnt think so!
So %^*& Messi and %^*& Maradona
And their disrespectful Jesuit bishop of Rome!
I agree with him on Maradona.
Messi has done all his stuff mostly for one club who have top class players in all positions.
He has also done nothing at international level, unlike Pele or Maradona.
They are all ridiculously good but I think Maradona is the best footballer ever.
Your mixing Messi up with CM Punk mate
Bret Hart
Of course he was and for me the best player ever produced in Europe.What would you say if the guy said fellow ulster Scot George Best. Arguably the best player in the world on his day.
Just cause he didnt play for Brazil or Argentina on the world stage was not hi fault.
Still a world class player.
Watch Brazil games from 1970 World Cup. Pele is right. I would put most of that team as better than Messi they were just sublime to watch.
Messi is the GOAT.
I’m still surprised there are people out there that try to argue it these days. Even in a “poor” season by his own incredibly high standards, he still outscored and out assisted everybody in European football (and most likely world football).
The guy should have 8 or 9 Ballon D’ors, it’s a travesty that he only has 5.
Anyone who uses the number racked up by Messi and Ronaldo as proof that they are better players than Maradona or Pele etc. Doesn't understand football. If Pele etc. Played in the game with it's modern rules they'd have insane numbers but the rules were different. Defenders got away with murder. Rules changed to gear the game towards a more attacking style giving forwards all sorts of advantages. I know folk talk about boots, balls and fitness etc. Too but the main factor is the rule changes. You can try to argue otherwise but you'd be wrong and I don't care enough.
Pele scored over 1000 goals. Easy then though wasn't it.Senile old floppy cock.
Basically what he’s saying is he could score more with his head and left foot. Given messi’s ridiculous passing, and dribbling ability paired with his vision and penchant for outscoring practically everyone, I seriously doubt floppy cock was a better all rounder.
Messi would more likely protect nazis, the great Pele scored against them with broken/cracked ribs ffs, so no contest really.
Doesn't matter none can touch Maradona.
Messi is the GOAT.
I’m still surprised there are people out there that try to argue it these days. Even in a “poor” season by his own incredibly high standards, he still outscored and out assisted everybody in European football (and most likely world football).
The guy should have 8 or 9 Ballon D’ors, it’s a travesty that he only has 5.
Agree !hey guys if you don't like what Pele says,then answer with a bit of dignity,no need for silly name calling of a footballing great ,we all have our own opinions!Maybe he is now, but he WAS the best I have seen.
Good post mate bet you still get pelters,don't think the young guys have seen half of peles clip,first one I can remember trying to chip the Uruguay goalie from the half way line 1970 and many more,just never showed anywhere now,pity!I think the perspective of time may see Messi at the top of the GOAT tree, but right now he’s still behind Maradona for me, and in all honesty, probably Pele too.
His inability to light up a World Cup in the manner either of those two did (you could add Cruyff into the mix on that front also) will always count against him, IMO.
To say he’s done it more consistently at club level doesn’t fully take into account the way club football has changed in the last twenty odd years.
The CL has engendered the rise of the super club, of which Barcelona are the very epitome - and in doing so has reduced competition to their preserve.
It’s been said before, but if the CL setup was around in the ‘80s we’d have seen a lot more of Maradona in Europe’s premier club event, but he was restricted by the old format and a league that was more competitive than La Liga is now.
Similarly Pele.
These greatest of all time arguments therefore always tend to favour more modern players due to the available TV footage of them in action: Pele - very little; Maradona - a good bit more; Messi - 24 hour saturation point.
And the latter is fresher in the memory, but I still think when he finally hangs up his boots, he’s going to have a lot of sleepless nights replaying that moment in the 2014 final when he had the chance to win it but stuck it just wide of the post.
Had it gone two or three inches the other way, I think the argument would be academic.
Yes, and defences weren't as organised in Maradona's time as they are now .Most goals scored in a season by Maradona - 43
Messi has surpassed this 7 times in the past decade, Messi is the greatest
I've always considered Pele to be the greatest player to ever grace a football pitch but I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in his comments.
I would have expected a player of his stature in the game to appreciate the skills of truly World Class players like Messi rather than attempt to pick holes in his game, they are after all in the same "club" of being one of arguably the top footballers of all time!
It's also quite amusing to hear some obviously young pups declare Pele as nothing more than a senile auld prick!...that's football treason!