Pele 'embarrassed' to leave home amid mobility issues and has become reclusive.

Tougherthanbullets

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We will all be in Peles condition one day, hopefully his memories stay with him and he recovers physically.
Good response mate. There some feckin eejits on here thinking they are been funny and they are far from it. Pele was a superb athlete and a brilliant footballer, a stand out in an era of violent hammer throwers. I hope he manages to recover mobility. Maybe paying the price now for the heavy tackles he endured.
 

Chocolateleftfoot

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He transcended football, similar to Ali and Woods. Arguably the greatest.
Wouldn't disagree that he's the most famous footballer of all time. But he's fifas darling and they've been pushing the Pele is the greatest line for 50 years. And when he lost the vote for player of the century by a landslide, they changed the rules and put him out front and centre.
 

Steve Snedden

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I didn't think he got embarrassed. He turned up to collect the player of the century award, even though Maradona won the vote. Fifa changed the criteria to win when it became apparent the world doesn't feel the way they do about Pele. Also counts about 700 goals he scored in friendlies in his 1200 goal haul, I'm not aware of them counting anyone else's. A shameless self publisist.
Before anyone starts, he was a bit before my time and maybe he was the best player in the world at one point, but I'm not going to think he's the Greatest of all time, just because fifa tell me to. Doesn't even make the top three for me.
1958, 1962 and 1970 WC all won by Brazil

1966 WC Not won by Brazil. Pele was injured.
 

senefelder

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Good response mate. There some feckin eejits on here thinking they are been funny and they are far from it. Pele was a superb athlete and a brilliant footballer, a stand out in an era of violent hammer throwers. I hope he manages to recover mobility. Maybe paying the price now for the heavy tackles he endured.
I genuinely get younger observers down playing the achievements of players from years ago because frankly some games look as if they are in slow motion. The mantra is players were slower, fitness was lower etc, and therefore their place in history is diminished. Pele without possibly being able to provide proof I suspect would have been a superstar in any era, in short never mind the outrageous goal scoring records, he was an absolute beast of an athlete, quick, built like a brick shit house and a supreme team player.
 

Chocolateleftfoot

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But they had a special player who made them an exceptional team and it showed in England in 1966 when was injured.

No other player has had such a massive impact over 4 WC's.
Actually, he missed most of the world cup in 62 through injury but Brazil still managed to get by without him, they did have a lot of good players. Missed most of 66 as well, that's true. Couldn't really say he had a massive impact in either of those tournaments, I suppose.
 

Steve Snedden

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Actually, he missed most of the world cup in 62 through injury but Brazil still managed to get by without him, they did have a lot of good players. Missed most of 66 as well, that's true. Couldn't really say he had a massive impact in either of those tournaments, I suppose.
For reasons best known to themselves, I never knew about Pele's injury in the 62 WC. A glaring gap in my knowledge.
 

Chocolateleftfoot

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For reasons best known to themselves, I never knew about Pele's injury in the 62 WC. A glaring gap in my knowledge.
There's no doubt Pele was a great player, one of the best ever. He's got three World Cups, Brazils all time top goal scorer and if someone thinks he's the best ever, that's their opinion and they're entitled to it. But a lot of his achievements have been overstated and puffed up over the years and for me the 1200 goal thing is the biggest load of bollocks in football. It's in the Guinness book of records. Know how many goals Messi has scored in friendlies or u21 games? No one cares.
 

raywilko

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I remember being about 6 or 7 and I was at Butlins with my friend. We stayed up late one night with his grandad telling us stories about Pele. I had no idea who he was; but just hearing the enthusiasm in his voice and seeing the awe in his eyes convinced me he was special. Will never forget it. Hopefully tell my own grandkids about Laudrup one day too.
 

Danger Zone

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Actually, he missed most of the world cup in 62 through injury but Brazil still managed to get by without him, they did have a lot of good players. Missed most of 66 as well, that's true. Couldn't really say he had a massive impact in either of those tournaments, I suppose.
Correct. I don’t know why old timers feel the need to rewrite history
 

Oxfordblue

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There's no doubt Pele was a great player, one of the best ever. He's got three World Cups, Brazils all time top goal scorer and if someone thinks he's the best ever, that's their opinion and they're entitled to it. But a lot of his achievements have been overstated and puffed up over the years and for me the 1200 goal thing is the biggest load of bollocks in football. It's in the Guinness book of records. Know how many goals Messi has scored in friendlies or u21 games? No one cares.
Until I read this thread I was oblivious to the 1200 goals thing. As far as I was concerned, Brazilians - who have had more than their share of absolutely world class footballers (think Garrincha, Tostao, Socrates, Edu, Gerson etc.) - seem unanimous that he's their greatest ever player by a country mile. Does that make him the greatest player of all time? I don't know. I don't know if he was better that Di Stefano, Maradonna or Messi and I don't particularly care. I think that he's certainly up there, though.
I agree that the 1200 goals thing doesn't do him any favours. I think of him as a great footballer, rather than a great goalscorer.
 

Union Jack Pillow

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There's no doubt Pele was a great player, one of the best ever. He's got three World Cups, Brazils all time top goal scorer and if someone thinks he's the best ever, that's their opinion and they're entitled to it. But a lot of his achievements have been overstated and puffed up over the years and for me the 1200 goal thing is the biggest load of bollocks in football. It's in the Guinness book of records. Know how many goals Messi has scored in friendlies or u21 games? No one cares.
I think you have a point on this
 
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