Potential New Format for the Champions League
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vinnie
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Seems like a half way house to not having to fight the big clubs (whatever their group is called) that we’re on about setting up their own tournament.
LOL 133
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I think I know why. You aint got one?
No flies on you, eh?
LOL 133
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They dont want competition. They want money.
I see Marine drew Spurs in the FA Cup. That's what fans enjoy. The 'romance' of the cup. Its fun, its exciting. Everyone's talking about it.
Glasgow Rangers (Sco)
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I’d happily play in the Europa league from now on.......this is our level and the games have been fantastic to watch
That’s not going to pay for the massive salaries, plush offices and perks available to employees of UEFA and various corrupt FA officials.
Ter
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Looking at this format, it could be good for us.
Finish in the top 8 and you not only qualify for the next round but also the group stage the following year. Finish 9 - 24th and you're in with a chance of getting to the next stage via the intermediate round.
Looking at the pots this season and assuming we would be a pot 4 side and get drawn with 2 pot 1, 3 pot 2, 3 pot 3 and 2 pot 4, we could get drawn to play in a probable best case scenario
Porto, Zenit, Ajax, Man Utd, Shakhtar, Dinamo Kiev, Olympiacos, Krasnodar, Ferencvaros and Midtjylland
Finish in the top 8 and you not only qualify for the next round but also the group stage the following year. Finish 9 - 24th and you're in with a chance of getting to the next stage via the intermediate round.
Looking at the pots this season and assuming we would be a pot 4 side and get drawn with 2 pot 1, 3 pot 2, 3 pot 3 and 2 pot 4, we could get drawn to play in a probable best case scenario
Porto, Zenit, Ajax, Man Utd, Shakhtar, Dinamo Kiev, Olympiacos, Krasnodar, Ferencvaros and Midtjylland
dt17
The Jay Cartwright of FF
No offence but that would be utter shite.
Barcelona / Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Liverpool / Man City
Juventus
The only teams who could ever win it. It'd be even more of a closed shop than it already is.
Does anyone really want to see those teams battering the champions of Hungary, Slovenia and so on? Nope.
Mr_Miscellaneous
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If they want it to be "the best teams getting through, no matter the opposition" the answer is simple.
Straight knock-out competition without seedings.
Straight knock-out competition without seedings.
broxi87
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I always felt that the champions league should be for champions and the Europa league should be for second place .
I see what you're saying but I find it sad when teams get into Europe for finishing 4th or 6th or whatever it is because of the co-efficient.
Some teams in England getting in that haven't won a title in 30 or more years when we can't get a sniff irritates me.
I would also take a chunk of champions league money and plough it into the Europa league to help even things out financially, second place in the domestic league is rarely a guarantee , thus might help some clubs compete .
yes but then it was still only Champions allowed in.
they introduced Group Stages in the last year of the European Cup (incidentally we got knocked out on away goals due to an own goal aet to Sparta Prague, they were then runners up in their group to Barcelona who went on to win it).
but then they got greedy and the rich got richer,
was the final a few years Liverpool v Spurs, between them hadn’t won a league title for a combined 70 years.
Liverpool had won it twice and were runners up twice in the last 15 years despite it being double that from when they last won their league.
Uddingston_Bear
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Happy to say I haven't watched the Champions League in years not including the final. Only stuff I watch outside Scotland is a bit of South American football. I hope eventually all the tourists and TV fans get bored of football and it goes back to just being about the fans in the stands. Wishful thinking I know.
BlueDragon99
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Like me, you may be old and a dinosaur, but you are not boring. It's the current set-up that's boring. Unless Rangers or Borussia Mönchengladbach are involved (or Celtic are getting a good doing) I don't watch any more. And remember, dinosaurs ruled the Earth for 450 million years and were as hard as ****.
gersrus71
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What a load of balls
10 random games?
That means we could draw Real, Barca, Bayern, City etc and struggle yet another team gets a few lower ranked teams and qualify.
How is that fair.
The European cup was better when it was an open draw and anyone could be drawn together I.e a proper cup competition and it was only champions.
None of this shite that favoured the big teams and the big nations.
10 random games?
That means we could draw Real, Barca, Bayern, City etc and struggle yet another team gets a few lower ranked teams and qualify.
How is that fair.
The European cup was better when it was an open draw and anyone could be drawn together I.e a proper cup competition and it was only champions.
None of this shite that favoured the big teams and the big nations.
Theportyunionjack
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It does look like UEFA are trying to protect access for smaller teams-thats seems to be a big part of the compromises.
If they really wanted to protect teams from smaller companies pass a new rule that each club gets to sell its own TV rights. That'd even the score a little.
If they really wanted to protect teams from smaller companies pass a new rule that each club gets to sell its own TV rights. That'd even the score a little.
Beach Bear
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I may be in the minority but truth be told, I can't stand the CL. Felt this way for many years. It bores the arse of me. I prefer the Europa, more of a level playing field, good quality teams and good competition. It reminds me of the old style of European competition.
Balogun1
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Eh? Liverpool have huge character. I would agree with the likes of city, PSG, Madrid and some others but Liverpool have at least as much character as Bayern, if anything more.
They feel like a global brand with no identity is more my point, but yeah Liverpool probably the least bad out of your City PSG etc.
I still have zero interest in watching them.
dt17
The Jay Cartwright of FF
But again, what would be the point of watching Barcelona vs Copenhagen or Bayern Munich vs Maribor for example?
The big teams would just end up treating it the way the League Cup is treated. Field your youngsters until you get far enough in the competition, then start putting out strong teams.
Rt. Hon. Bearman
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Keep the criteria to get in as it is, but make it a random FA Cup style draw for the 32 clubs each season.
Last 32
Last 16
Quarters
Semis
Final
Knock out four random teams and you're in the final.
Last 32 and Last 16 losers drop into the EL.
Last 32
Last 16
Quarters
Semis
Final
Knock out four random teams and you're in the final.
Last 32 and Last 16 losers drop into the EL.
strathavenbear
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It would be interesting to ask the supporters what they want.
Surely most fans out there want their club to win something, not just qualify for the CL.
I know that there was Arsenal fans happy to finish 4th in the EPL a few seasons ago, that can't be the view of the majority of supporters or are we now obsessed with balance sheets?
Surely most fans out there want their club to win something, not just qualify for the CL.
I know that there was Arsenal fans happy to finish 4th in the EPL a few seasons ago, that can't be the view of the majority of supporters or are we now obsessed with balance sheets?
broxi87
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The bonus for me is it could be a different team every year or 2 .
Dortmund or Bayern from Germany.
One year it could be Liverpool, Leicester, Man City, Chelsea , Man United (snigger) .
Rangers or Celtic
Real or Barcelona
AC Milan , Inter , Juve
PSG, Marseille , Lyon etc
Ajax , PSV etc
Porto , benfica besiktas
I don't know a lot about other league just now so that may not be accurate , but I would honestly take one team from each country and it would be different all the time and sort the wheat from the chaff , Copenhagen etc would maybe start to climb with the money for example.
I don't like when it's 2 teams from the same country playing the final, you can see that 4x a year already.
Tottenham vs Liverpool was bloody awful.
I think most would agree it needs a change in some way or another .
My idea isn't full proof , I get that , but it's becoming a closed shop and champions league money to the same teams kills the domestic scene.
dt17
The Jay Cartwright of FF
I agree that two teams from the same country in the final is poor. But going by recent domestic titles you're looking at even more of a closed shop than the current format.
Barca & Real
Bayern
PSG
Juventus
Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea
Only teams with a realistic chance of getting near.
Why are you rich?
You have no concept of just how rich.
tottie beck
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They are destroying football as we know it, and with more people tuning into the CL it justifies their hand. Only a boycott of watching the later stages by fans of teams not involved will wake up UEFA to the damage they’re doing. Even that might not be enough since the football tourists will still be watching in droves.
it can only be a matter of time before the financial elite (who have become that through the manipulation of the CL over the years) break away and form a closed league and leave the rest of us to pick up the pieces and rebuild European competitions with integrity. Who knows, in time that might actually be preferred to watching overpriced superstars.
it can only be a matter of time before the financial elite (who have become that through the manipulation of the CL over the years) break away and form a closed league and leave the rest of us to pick up the pieces and rebuild European competitions with integrity. Who knows, in time that might actually be preferred to watching overpriced superstars.
GovanFront4
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There has been some absolutely cracking games this year as usual. I know most of the groups have been resolved early, but there are some great matches amongst them.
A1bertz
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Jeezo. Just put one team in from each country. No seedings.
Would mean small teams might get the luck of the draw and get further in the tournament whereas the bigger teams might end up knocking each other out early doors.
For a neutral, that would be great to watch!
Would mean small teams might get the luck of the draw and get further in the tournament whereas the bigger teams might end up knocking each other out early doors.
For a neutral, that would be great to watch!
