Article Press briefing with Patrick Stewart - Board is backing Clement, root and branch review of Football Department begins on Monday, expect 1 or 2 January

I understand we can't keep changing managers but it doesn't mean we should just stick with one for the sake of it. I have backed Clement for ages but enough is enough, the football is getting worse and even at 2 goals up you're still thinking to yourself that we are going to drop points.

I mentioned in another thread, it's not about finishing second place it's the manner in which we are. Almost weekly we are struggling against teams with a fraction of our budget and talent. The guy has had a year to improve the football, which in beginning was looking like he was but from around April onwards we just got worse and worse. We had a spell a few weeks ago where he changed things to appease the fans complaints, it worked well and then he reverts to type and scraps it, we then start struggling again.

We have been on the decline for a year, what's the point in delaying his dismissal? We have all seen it with our own eyes, we are getting worse by the week with the occasional big game performance to shut us up for a few days.

Some on here seem to put indviduals before the club, others are clearly at it with a their glee about todays conference. That isn't a dig at those who are genuine supporters, but there's a few dodgy ones on here mixing it.

I like many others on here and who attend the matches spend our hard earned cash from working jobs most of us probably dislike to go see our team. It's meant to be a bit of an escape but we are clearly just viewed as "customers". We pay our money and are meant to just shut up and deal with it.

I just want the best for our club, we are a laughing stock currently.
 
I agree. I've already said I'd have preferred he was gone yesterday (long before actually) but uf there us an actual intention to do things right fir a change, and Stewart isn't to blame for e the shambles of the last few years, this the way to do it. We've lost the league, things are getting changed and they better damn well do it right but Clement will be getting relieved of his job soon enough.
Great post G. More or less my own take on the situation. No knee-jerk reaction (although it’s really tempting!) to our current malaise. Let’s give Stewart some time.
 
That's not just down to FFP rules that's down to years of mismanagement at board level. Decisions made in the past have put us where we are.
Whatever the end goal is, those responsible for our demise should be hunted
They are being...with their money locked in the club.
John G at the AGM clearly intimated the board was to be separated from investors who have yes made many mistakes in trying to run the club - even though they had the best of intentions and were fans the same as us all.
Professional business people (Stewart & Thornton) have taken over.
 
Nothing I didn’t expect and it covers all points. This was more an action plan into the future of the club which I think every CEO/ Chairman has done since they’ve come in?

This is the problem with social media, and generally 24/7 access to news platforms. The sun knew 100% what they were doing last night. Due to that article the majority assumed it had been moved forward as a reaction to results - when it had actually always been the case, or had been moved earlier in the week.

I’d love to hear H&H / rangers review covering it and discussing it as they are pretty good at taking emotion out of it.

It reads as if clement has Stewart’s support but has been given some hard truths and will be more under the impression results need to improve
The suns release should see them barred from future press conferences.

It was deliberately done to undermine PS and the club, give time for the blood to boil and everyone having their own expectations that the clubs never meeting.
 
Do you really believe all these alleged ‘sponsors’ are generating revenue for the club/team? From what I see as a Club72 member, they are depriving genuine supporters of tickets for away games and are cosseted by an inflated Corporate Hospitality section, which has debatable business sense for the club or providing needed revenue for the player budget. Doesn’t help however that money has been squandered by poor legal decisions and incompetence at a management level.m
Of course they are! You might not like them but if they are announced they are not “alleged” they are factual. Hard though it is for us older Rangers fans to accept, football has changed entirely in the last 40 years, it is no longer about the money ‘real fans’ generate at successful clubs anywhere in Europe at least!! Sponsors pour in tens of thousands of pounds whereas 99% of “real fans” only pour in hundreds, at best a couple of thousand! Thats just reality.

Ps. For the hard of thinking…our bevvy, our travel, our food costs, our away tickets don’t benefit the club, that’s the cost of choosing to follow Rangers. The places you buy them from do.
 
Im in no way clued up in business investments, especially ones that cost £100m

But Rangers football club would be a terrible way of spending £100m

Playing in Scotland gives us no potential at all
Correct about Scotland but if by some miracle we qualified for champions League every season might be different
 
Stewart did kind of challenge the manager on that today as well

I think supporters would also want the board to be saying ‘Fine but you also need to develop the players and work with the players we've got’

I think a lot of what Patrick Stewart said today made complete sense. I was never expecting a CEO 4 weeks in the door to bin a manager the executive board backed and gave an improved contract extension to just four months ago. It was never happening so whilst I'd have Clement out the door ASAP I'm not tearing my hair out at it not being today. I also don't think it's the ringing endorsement of him as a manager or an acceptance of second best either that folk are saying it is either.

If I was putting money on it, I'd still be amazed if Clement is here by the end of the season never mind next season. It clear that Stewart has a lot on his plate given just how dysfunctional this club is and firing and hiring managers right now would add to it. I'd be amazed if the search for our next manager hasn't already begun.

I wanted honesty from the CEO today and IMO I think we got it from Stewart. Doesn't mean I need to be happy or agree with everything he said but he laid out his reasoning in pretty clear terms, understood it from the fans point of view, said that patience regards on field matters wasn't in unlimited supply and I think he knows he's going to pull the trigger sometime soon. It's a big change from one sentence answers from Park or complete nonsense about great squads from Bennett because Connor Goldson told him so.
 
“In well run clubs it’s the club that signs the player not the manager. “

This will surprise those that have been arguing all week that Clement signs the players and the talk should come from him.

At least we get a bit of clarity on that.
You missed the part, deliberately, that the manager has final say or words to that effect.
 
In the past yes Stewart has made a tough call and not a popular one. Clemment will be gone by end of season when we get the manager we want in not who is availabe
Easy option is to get rid and I for one would support it but as he says he is looking at the core issues
We are comfortably in second. Title is gone so let’s win cup and build for next season when we can get a new manager
I would be extremely surprised if we know the manager we want. I think that may be the elephant in the room, we don't know who to turn to next.
 
Of course they are! You might not like them but if they are announced they are not “alleged” they are factual. Hard though it is for us older Rangers fans to accept, football has changed entirely in the last 40 years, it is no longer about the money ‘real fans’ generate at successful clubs anywhere in Europe at least!! Sponsors pour in tens of thousands of pounds whereas 99% of “real fans” only pour in hundreds, at best a couple of thousand! Thats just reality.

Ps. For the hard of thinking…our bevvy, our travel, our food costs, our away tickets don’t benefit the club, that’s the cost of choosing to follow Rangers. The places you buy them from do.
I think people realise this and know that merchandise and STs, euro tickets etc are what goes directly to the club.
Unsure why you feel you need to take this attitude to other fans. Maybe get off your high horse and have a bit of respect.
 
If it takes spunking thousands on a review to tell the board what's wrong then that tells us all we need to know.
Out of their depth.
Like you say, without fans this club wouldn't be here. This board has wasted millions of pounds, millions.
The priority should be in fi.ding so.eone that does want to buy us. Clubs ch age hands all the time. We are a major European team, fantastic stadium, brilliant training ground and a fanbase unsurpassed by any other. You can't be telling me there isn't an investor out there that sees the potential in that?
My belief is that there are some on our board don't want to sell and are happy to be Rangers board members regardless of what happens on the park. Their egos will destroy us.
Mate, Dave king has been trying to sell his for 4 years. No takers. To take over a person, or group, would need about 100m all in. The simple fact is that as big as we are, we play in Scotland and aren’t that attractive to non bear investors or people who arent asset strippers.
 
Correct about Scotland but if by some miracle we qualified for champions League every season might be different
It wouldn’t be. More revenue doesn’t mean more return on investment. It means we get to see better players, bigger teams, etc. But from a financial perspective - and certainly from an investor perspective - it’s not appealing. The extra income would be HIGHLY insecure - investors don’t generally put £100m into investments where one bad refereeing decision or one injury could cost you £50m of income. And even if secure, the entire history of football tells you that the extra income would be spent on wages and fees.

The only way a +£100m investment in Rangers returns a MOIC greater than 2x (which would be a comparable investment return expectation) would be the sudden creation of a European Super League we were invited into and protected from relegation from.
 
Stewart did kind of challenge the manager on that today as well

I think supporters would also want the board to be saying ‘Fine but you also need to develop the players and work with the players we've got’
To be fair to him, he has to some extent.

Both Raskin and Souttar have improved under him and are now two of our best players, but he’s also had to use others that clearly aren’t good enough and are unlikely to improve under any manager - Dessers, Lawrence, Yilmaz, Matondo, Danilo to some extent and even Davies and Cifuentes, who we at least managed to punt out on loan.

The flip side to that is that he’s been responsible for the signings of Diomande, Bajrami, Propper, and, tentatively, Cortes, who we need to see a lot more from for the money spent / committed.

Bottom line though - excuses, as valid as some may actually be, won’t save him if results don’t improve.
 
Ready to get shouted down, but I actually thought that what was said was (if I put my emotion to one side), pretty much what you would want a new CEO to say and be doing.
Issue is, when it is something you are passionate about and that matters to you, you just can't take emotion out.
I get everything that's being said by everyone in this thread, but the reality is that the Club is fundamentally broken, as a result mainly of the mismanagement of the past and we need someone to reestablish the right foundations and then rebuild the club.
I think Stewart could be the man to do that, as long as the Board back him with his strategy.
Right now, changing the manager with the shit show prevalent behind the scenes, will lead to another disastrous appointment.
Sort things, establish the foundations and plan for the summer, including finding the right manager.
No one can be certain, but for me, Stewart deserves a chance.
Completely agree. Thought it was pretty reasonable.

Taken at face value he’s saying the issues go deeper than Clement and need a broader set of fixes …. which all of us (or at least the sensible ones) would acknowledge. Clear that Clement will be fired though if results don’t improve in the second half of the season.

Money for 1 or 2 players in the January window. And he didn’t play the “ financial basket case” card. If anything he was quite bullish on revenue.

Not a lot to get worked up about unless you believe firing Clement today was the silver bullet to fix everything. If you do I have some magic beans to sell to you
 
I think a lot of what Patrick Stewart said today made complete sense. I was never expecting a CEO 4 weeks in the door to bin a manager the executive board backed and gave an improved contract extension to just four months ago. It was never happening so whilst I'd have Clement out the door ASAP I'm not tearing my hair out at it not being today. I also don't think it's the ringing endorsement of him as a manager or an acceptance of second best either that folk are saying it is either.

If I was putting money on it, I'd still be amazed if Clement is here by the end of the season never mind next season. It clear that Stewart has a lot on his plate given just how dysfunctional this club is and firing and hiring managers right now would add to it. I'd be amazed if the search for our next manager hasn't already begun.

I wanted honesty from the CEO today and IMO I think we got it from Stewart. Doesn't mean I need to be happy or agree with everything he said but he laid out his reasoning in pretty clear terms, understood it from the fans point of view, said that patience regards on field matters wasn't in unlimited supply and I think he knows he's going to pull the trigger sometime soon. It's a big change from one sentence answers from Park or complete nonsense about great squads from Bennett because Connor Goldson told him so.
An excellent summary.
 
All Stewart has done is kick the can down the road, a trick right out Clement's play book to be honest.

If results continue as they are, there's a decision to be made?

Well I hope he's doing the ground work for that decision now because there's absolutely nothing to suggest that results aren't going to continue as they have been.

This isn't going to get better. Clement is finished. Even though he survived today, it's a matter of when and not if.
And we will all live happily ever after we get a new manager in...
 
I think a lot of what Patrick Stewart said today made complete sense. I was never expecting a CEO 4 weeks in the door to bin a manager the executive board backed and gave an improved contract extension to just four months ago. It was never happening so whilst I'd have Clement out the door ASAP I'm not tearing my hair out at it not being today. I also don't think it's the ringing endorsement of him as a manager or an acceptance of second best either that folk are saying it is either.

If I was putting money on it, I'd still be amazed if Clement is here by the end of the season never mind next season. It clear that Stewart has a lot on his plate given just how dysfunctional this club is and firing and hiring managers right now would add to it. I'd be amazed if the search for our next manager hasn't already begun.

I wanted honesty from the CEO today and IMO I think we got it from Stewart. Doesn't mean I need to be happy or agree with everything he said but he laid out his reasoning in pretty clear terms, understood it from the fans point of view, said that patience regards on field matters wasn't in unlimited supply and I think he knows he's going to pull the trigger sometime soon. It's a big change from one sentence answers from Park or complete nonsense about great squads from Bennett because Connor Goldson told him so.
agree with pretty much all of that
 
I think was said today was better and more interesting than largely given credit for. The backing for the manager is obviously conditional, and the need for consistency has been emphasised. If Clement makes it here till the end of the season I'll be surprised, but we'll see.
 
Out of interest, what did all those raging want him to say? That he'd found £25m down the back of the sofa and a new manager would get carte blanche to spend it?
 
As well as the pics poor performances and results, clements own words will come back to hang him. Someone mentioned earlier set pieces.stewart may not be a football manager or coach but if root and branch is anything like ones I've been involved in, everything gets analysed, micro managed and questioned and expectations asked and expected.

"Phillipe, you said you manage set pieces on your own. Tell me the time spent, drills used, coaches involved and expectations of those. Stats are rather alarming, can you advise please why this is so and how YOU remedy this"

No amount of waffle saves him, his words were his own, the stats damning. He does nothing, it's another nail. Honestly, I give him a month
 
I hope it's toxic tomorrow, I hope there are protests, I hope there are songs and chants against Clement and the powers that be.

What a terribly run football club we are, shambolic from the top down.

As for Patrick - meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Pathetic
I couldn’t disagree more with you about Patrick Stewart
He has already shown his leadership qualities with today’s prognosis
Clement will not be the long term solution, but neither is another sacking, another stab at a stagnant managerial marketplace to replace him, another flush out of the squad and another load of money down the Swanney
Like others I believe there is no short term answer and other than sacking for the sake of fans bloodlust. There is no merit in a stand-in bumbling along with a fractious squad until a new appointment would be made at the end of a tortuous season.
 
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Then you have had your head in the sand as to what's been happening at our club for the last few years, that's why you see it as grim.

For those of us who have been paying attention it's refreshing to acknowledge the past mistakes and having a plan to get us back to where we belong

I breathed a sigh of relief reading it
Me too. The added bonus was his positivity over our financial position as i feared the worst.
 
What I provide below is a quick review which I have touch-typed from a recording - I believe the Rangers Review will do a full translation. So therefore any errors, misinterpretations, shortenings etc are my own mistakes. This is not a verbatim transcript.








Rangers new Chairman Fraser Thornton and Patrick Stewart faced the press today. Fraser talked very briefly at the beginning and the end and made the point that everything Patrick was going to say is fully supported by the Board. Fraser also said that any and every decision he will take part in will be with the best long term interests of the football club at heart.











Patrick mentioned off the record briefing in December seems a long time ago now. I know there’s been a lot of talk about results and the manager. Spotlight is on Fraser and myself but I am ok with that need to make tough decisions but Im ok with that it comes with the role. Need to make decisions that are right for Rangers not just the popular ones.





We are backing backing Philippe at this time as a Board. Its about taking deeper look at the issues and focussing for stronger future for the club. Changing a manger is not a silver bullet solution. Where I worked previous that was not effective and it’s not effective at a lot of football clubs. What I and the board and I need to do is address the underling issues.





Lot of supporters comments - one that jumped out at me was its about the manager and others saying it’s not just about the manager its about several years performance and it’s deep-rooted. I agree with that.





Managers and coaching staff will come and go - but what I want to do is build solid foundation with a real football plan for the club - if we react every time there are bad results we are bad to where we were 12 months ago. I’m not saying everything is fine Fans are frustrated I get that, I’ve been a football fan my entire life, we are all frustrated and particularly with away results, it’s not good and its not what is exited and we are working with Philippe to address consistency issues.





Also not going to speculate what happens if results don’t improve. I’ve spent time with Philippe discussing need for results to improve. If they don’t I can;t give him an cast iron guarantees, hand I have been around long enough to know that, likewise I’m not going to get into how many games he has to save his job - it’s abutting identifying the reasons for inconsistency.





To be clear sticking with Philippe is not about trying to avoid a tough decision, if anything changing he manager would be the easy decision as fans calling for that I have seen the statements, that would be easy but long term perspective and putting the clubs best interests, and not mine, thinking about club first. It is very much about right decisions for the long term success of the club. Again Philippe understand that - he is committed and I have worked with several managers and he is hard working and committed as any i have seen - always first on training ground, always thinking about improvements. He is committed to bring success to the club and we are committed -but it is a result orientated business





Talking about longer term success - I met with all the FOotball Department at Auchenhowie last Tuesday. It was primarily to into myself to them. Was also to inform them we are doing a root and branch review of the entire football department - everything is in score and it starts on Monday. If we are honest as a club we need to look at everything and the club has not been where it wants to be for several years. So reviewing everything.





Want to ensure we have structures in place to succeed. And make fans proud. Need a plan tha tis joined up from eh training ground to the board and we have processes that join it up from first team to academy to women. Investing people - best people for the club and let them develop. Want to make long term successes built on culture. That is directed to winning - build success as a habit.





Happy to pause and take questions.





Q Some would suggest that you won’t dispense with the manager right now because the club can;t afford it.


A We wouldn't make any decision based on a manager on financials, absolutely not, that’s not in the best long term interests of the club. Everything is long term. We have good revenues, we have record revenues. This isn’t a financial decision.





Q Is it a concern amongst the support that anger has given way to apathy - Supporters Association not particularly vocal but they are first to speak out. How big a coneren is it the fans disengage - talk about not turning up on Sunday.


A I agree supporters - no club can be successful without having an engaged supporter bas, and the Rangers supporters base is huge and not one we take for granted. The easy decision would be to change the manager because that is what some supporters are calling for. But I’m not her for the easy decisions - I am here to create long term success. I want to talk to fans but we can;t have the short term quick fixes that have been applied in the past and not worked. Got to dig deeper and of it quickly - I have initial impressions which I won’t share as I don’t want to preempt the review but there will be mule reasons otherwise we’d have found answers sooner. This is about taking step back and doing this to create long term success not jus the odd trophy jere and then.





Q If results don’t improve will your position change?


A Football is results based and not offering any guarantees to length of tenure - Philippe and I have had that discussion. It would be foolhardy to retain any employee regardless of results.





Q What make you and the board think it will get better under Philippe?


A I’ve been here 5 or 6 games - several good perofmnances against very strong teams so you can see what the team is capable of. Some players in summer 24 and Jan 24 and loans these players have gone from question marks to performing well. So there is confidence in recruitment but it comes down to consistency. How can we change that.





Q Board backing Philipe but if the trend continues does the club have a successs plan in place?


A Every good club has one for all positions - we are introducing that across the board not just manager and chairman etc. We always need one.





Q Fans are angry about this - what support are you giving PC because there is a years record of poor performances and it’s not working - are the board to help him?



A Fans right to do so and look at last 8/9 months there is lot of instability and expecting anyone to work to full capacity where there is instability. Have talked about review but can also look at short term. Spent lot of time with PC and these are the discussions that haven’t been there for some period of time - I do have some sympathy for him - people need challenged and supported and that perhaps has not been there in the organisation for some time.

Q Will further external finance be required and do you have assurances from shareholders that you will have the backing?


A Every club is looking at long term finance.





Q If Philippe can only bring in one or two players in January how does he feel about that?


A No club should be in the position after the summer window to have to do massive business in January. That would be irresponsible. Discussing all the time with Philippe, me the board - there is a healthy tension of maybe yes and maybe not. He challenges me and I challenge back - but we are aligned on putting the club first in the long and short term.





Q Can you share any more on the review - lot of these in the past with not a a lot coming out of them. FOotball people or management consultants.


A Not just another internal review which will take an inordinate amount of time that no-one ever reads. Eternal football people with experience. To drive growth and success. They will provide firepower and experience. WIll be impartial, no agenda. Has to be executed.
I appreciate that Giligan, Park and Co are living their dream overseeing our/their beloved Rangers but they have delivered very little positive strategic progression to date, we have been stuck in a rut for a while now and I find it difficult to buy into whatever they are saying

We, as fans, are debating about the fact we have no money but if we put this half season in to context, we have matched the multi million pound manky mob and held our own in Europe, our issue in the SPFL lands at Clements feet due to tactical inability, mysterious formations and incomprehensible team selection notwithstanding unfit/injured players of which we appear to have many. Failing to take full points from St Mirren, Motherwell, Dundee, Dundee United, Kilmarnock, Hibs, Hearts & Aberdeen, teams, we dwarf in terms of available finance, will be our downfall.

The current boards selection of Managers has been a major contributor to our current situation. Gerrard was a project, first managerial post, that gave us some success, 1 trophy in 9, Gio, Beale and in my view, worst of all Clement, have been unsuccessful. It would give me great pleasure for Phillipe Clement to prove me wrong but I genuinely can't see where that will come from. The current regime is failing at every level and I have very little confidence they can turn it around, therefore for me, the statement today will change nothing. The only team that are currently effective at Ibrox are the squad who get money out of our accounts into Rangers account, they never miss a beat, perhaps we should be giving them a go at running the team. Ready to take the flak but it's my honest opinion.
 
Full of bullshit.
Don’t agree , nothing unexpected though all pretty standard stuff tbh, what I did take out of it that the manager has been told things must improve, looks like the managers is on his last chance , matter of time I think before he is sacked
 
Your very gullible if you think Rangers have thousands of fans waiting for tickets, we have already lost millions of pounds revenue in matchday receipts this season 15 thousand empty seats at the semi final against Motherwell 6 months ago you couldn’t get near a ticket I wonder why attendances are tumbling any ideas?
Glory hunters and surrenders ?
Plenty of scum game tickets on here cos they thought we were getting beat some attitude and I bet a good percentage of them question players attitude etc
 
Trying to convince the fans getting rid would be the easier decision really is taking the piss

I welcome the “root and branch” look at the footballing side but there’s no way our current manager should still be in place

The fans will now speak with their feet, there is only one ending to this, the fact Stewart hasn’t made that decision now shows weakness imo
I disagree, by not buckling and chopping the manage, whilst his review takes place, I would say is a strong thing to do. Hanging the manager at this point in the season will change nothing as far as success this year.
 
There's an argument that Clement did better with someone elses signings last seasons than he's done with his own this season.

We can't get to the stage where we exempt him from judgment because he's coaching players he didn't sign. That's his remit, there's no clause in the contract where we only begin judging him once he's brought in 20 players he approves of.

We're supposedly paying this guy £2m a year and he's spent nearly £20m. Every ball into our box is a heart attack. Out set pieces are abysmal at both ends of the park. Our corners are lucky if they get past the first man. That's on his watch, no one elses. This is a manager who told us that he personally coaches the set pieces and wouldn't be handing them over to anyone else. We're an absolute shambles at them.

Is him bringing in another 10 players going to change that when it's abundantly clear on current evidence he is unable to improve them ?
Sorry but that’s on the players, if you can’t beat tbe first man from a corner that’s on you not the manager.
 
I’ll give it a month and clement will be gone anyway. We don’t win away games under him consistently and I’m pretty sure our next run of away fixtures are pretty difficult so we’ll be dropping more points. We’ve not been able to beat st mirren, Dundee etc away and they are hardly world beaters.

The external review thing to me as well just seems like a fancy way of saying I need some time so lay off my back. We’ll most likely never hear the outcome of this review either
 
Mate, Dave king has been trying to sell his for 4 years. No takers. To take over a person, or group, would need about 100m all in. The simple fact is that as big as we are, we play in Scotland and aren’t that attractive to non bear investors or people who arent asset strippers.
Julian Wolhardt and John Halstead are examples of non bear investors who have put money in.

There would be others but there’s certain entrenched / stubborn opinions on the board that are happy with the status quo.

Do I think a takeover scenario is likely? No, for the reasons you state but I absolutely think there would and have been opportunities for investment into the club that haven’t been taken up as people do not want to lose their position of influence or see it diluted.
 
I think a lot of what Patrick Stewart said today made complete sense. I was never expecting a CEO 4 weeks in the door to bin a manager the executive board backed and gave an improved contract extension to just four months ago. It was never happening so whilst I'd have Clement out the door ASAP I'm not tearing my hair out at it not being today. I also don't think it's the ringing endorsement of him as a manager or an acceptance of second best either that folk are saying it is either.

If I was putting money on it, I'd still be amazed if Clement is here by the end of the season never mind next season. It clear that Stewart has a lot on his plate given just how dysfunctional this club is and firing and hiring managers right now would add to it. I'd be amazed if the search for our next manager hasn't already begun.

I wanted honesty from the CEO today and IMO I think we got it from Stewart. Doesn't mean I need to be happy or agree with everything he said but he laid out his reasoning in pretty clear terms, understood it from the fans point of view, said that patience regards on field matters wasn't in unlimited supply and I think he knows he's going to pull the trigger sometime soon. It's a big change from one sentence answers from Park or complete nonsense about great squads from Bennett because Connor Goldson told him so.
I agree I think there will be a lot of changes in next few months not just the manager. While I want Clement gone we have 2 big European games this month where he has done well. I expect they think better chance of qualification and money with him than a caretaker at this stage.
 
We will see how good this plan is, when we are inevitably in the exact same position next season as we are now.
I think doing the review and trying to sort our behind the scenes is attempting to stop that rather than just appointing another manager on a layer of shifting sand
 
I disagree, by not buckling and chopping the manage, whilst his review takes place, I would say is a strong thing to do. Hanging the manager at this point in the season will change nothing as far as success this year.
Do you think what waa said today was simply a case of that?
 
And we will all live happily ever after we get a new manager in...
Every appointment carries risk. Keep making poor appointments and ultimately this is where we will end up.

Get the right appointment and we'll start to see some progress.

Clement's race is run though. Day one of moving forward can only happen once he's gone.
 
I think people realise this and know that merchandise and STs, euro tickets etc are what goes directly to the club.
Unsure why you feel you need to take this attitude to other fans. Maybe get off your high horse and have a bit of respect.
I was asked a question directly. I answered it directly.
 
Julian Wolhardt and John Halstead are examples of non bear investors who have put money in.

There would be others but there’s certain entrenched / stubborn opinions on the board that are happy with the status quo.

Do I think a takeover scenario is likely? No, for the reasons you state but I absolutely think there would and have been opportunities for investment into the club that haven’t been taken up as people do not want to lose their position of influence or see it diluted.
I get ur point mate but then, if people were out there and wanted in, why hasn’t anyone bought kings shares? Its the bear investors that seem to be the ones plugging the gaps too. Hard ask for someone not emotionally attached. I do agree they have made so many mistakes though.
 
I think a lot of what Patrick Stewart said today made complete sense. I was never expecting a CEO 4 weeks in the door to bin a manager the executive board backed and gave an improved contract extension to just four months ago. It was never happening so whilst I'd have Clement out the door ASAP I'm not tearing my hair out at it not being today. I also don't think it's the ringing endorsement of him as a manager or an acceptance of second best either that folk are saying it is either.

If I was putting money on it, I'd still be amazed if Clement is here by the end of the season never mind next season. It clear that Stewart has a lot on his plate given just how dysfunctional this club is and firing and hiring managers right now would add to it. I'd be amazed if the search for our next manager hasn't already begun.

I wanted honesty from the CEO today and IMO I think we got it from Stewart. Doesn't mean I need to be happy or agree with everything he said but he laid out his reasoning in pretty clear terms, understood it from the fans point of view, said that patience regards on field matters wasn't in unlimited supply and I think he knows he's going to pull the trigger sometime soon. It's a big change from one sentence answers from Park or complete nonsense about great squads from Bennett because Connor Goldson told him so.
An excellent summation. I’m hoping the board have a replacement manager lined up but they won’t be available until the summer.
 
Of course they are! You might not like them but if they are announced they are not “alleged” they are factual. Hard though it is for us older Rangers fans to accept, football has changed entirely in the last 40 years, it is no longer about the money ‘real fans’ generate at successful clubs anywhere in Europe at least!! Sponsors pour in tens of thousands of pounds whereas 99% of “real fans” only pour in hundreds, at best a couple of thousand! Thats just reality.

Ps. For the hard of thinking…our bevvy, our travel, our food costs, our away tickets don’t benefit the club, that’s the cost of choosing to follow Rangers. The places you buy them from do.
Fair enough some do put money into the club but I’m not convinced all do to a sufficient extent to justify their privileged position at Ibrox. And as we older fans know full well, I’ve been going for over 60 years, when the team doesn’t do it domestically or in Europe, your sponsors disappear like ‘snaw aff a dyke’! And then it’s the true supporters the club turns to!
 
Neither of the first two individuals are even on the board any longer. Bennett clearly remains a significant shareholder, and lender, so he no doubt has influence, but he is no longer on the board or making executive decisions.

I can’t see a single thing Stewart said today that anyone could argue with - aside from those who only wanted to hear that he’d sacked Clement. Take that to one side and the content indicates very different, more professional, approach than we have seen for many a year. It may turn out to be a false dawn, but he shouldn’t be tainted by the failures of those who preceded him.

Who is saying they are on the board? I’m talking about interviews those individuals have given in the past 6 months. Each of them acting as a conduit from the board. Bennett and now Stewart have both spoke about player trading being mythical, or words to that effect. Player trading is the single biggest area in which the Club can be transformed. It would be very odd indeed if two unconnected individuals arrived at the same conclusion, with near identical language, about an area in which we are underperforming without that message originating from the board.

On Stewart specifically today, he is talking about bringing one or two players in. The squad was at least two short before the season started. If he, and those above him, think we are going to see big improvements on the back of that they don’t understand the task before them. His description of our approach to player recruitment (sign some young players, sign some Scottish players, sign some experienced players) was lamentable. Imagine pitching that approach to any of the clubs who do well in this area. You’d be laughed out the building.

What he describes as a healthy tension between him and Clement sounds anything but to me. A more realistic characterisation of that relationship might be to say there is one party who realises the tools he has been given to do the job are wholly inadequate and a second party who is trying to maximise the value of those tools at the behest of his board of directors. In fact, that is the situation Gerrard (in 2021), Gio, Beale and now Clement have all found themselves in. At what stage do we stop looking at the managers as the problem and start looking at the other side of the equation?

What we actually need is for everyone to be on the same page and pulling in the same direction. We are as far away from that today as we have been for the last four years.
 
Personally I find it incredible that we need to stick with this guy despite being further behind them at this stage than any point since Pedro left because “we can’t keep sacking managers” and because the Board stupidly gave him a contract extension.

If the only reason to keep a manager is because it will cost money to sack him and have to find a caretaker until the summer then he clearly shouldn’t be in the job
 
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